high capcity battle style deer rifle

[Tirod]

6.8 was optimized for the 14.5" military barrel, go 16", it's all you need, and you save weight. It'll shoot accurately past 450m if you have at least a 2X optic on it. It's a good deer caliber, albeit there's no plinking ammo, but what the heck, that's what a 5.56 upper is for.

Check the 6.8forums for all the help and feedback you need. Their most important recommendation is to get the SPC II chamber and four or five rifling in 11" or slower. It gives the best performance from the new loads like the 95gr Barnes.

I think it's a good choice, it's exactly what I'm building. I lugged that Hk around enough. and a bolt gun never gave me any deer, just recoil. Bolt guns with 3x9 scopes are ok for big country, broken farmlands and woods, not so much. Hunt deer like a bow hunter, you set up in sight of rubs, trails, saddles, crossing points, etc. Not 500 yards away.

 

[rangerruck]

you may consider a remmy 30ar as well; a true ar 15 platform, with all interchangeable parts-- but fires the 30 ar cartridge. Like a slowed down 308, and a tad bit lighter.

 

[MTMilitiaman]

I have ran around the woods and hiked all over with my M1A Loaded. I won't say I never noticed the weight in the field. I will say I've never minded it. The length bothers me more than the weight when I'm in the woods.

I'd go with an M1A Scout. The Stoner-philes can say what they want. The M1A does run cleaner and cooler, and while it may not be as easy to take apart for maintenance, requires far less of it. It has excellent iron sights, and you don't even have to pay $200 over the cost of the rifle for them. You can get the rifle with the Cluster Rail System from SA already installed, and the naysayers can't even claim their ARs are easier to scope.

The KelTec looks interesting. I will admit I am intrigued, but waiting till it develops a little more of a reputation, until I hold one, and until they have a quad rail system for it.

 

[Quickstrike]

I vote for the new SCAR17s for these reasons:

Light for a battle rifle
Reliable, a very vigorously tested product
no pain to add optics
very compact with the folding stock
ergonomic

http://www.m4carbine.net/showthread.php?t=58311

 

[JTH]

If you need a semi auto with a large capacity magazine to hunt deer, maybe you need to be able to shoot better. Can you imagine if you fellow hunters see your deer with 5-10 bullet holes in your kill. You'd be a laughing stock!!!!!!!!!!!

 

[oldfool]

try to look at it as an update on the Henry lever action "load once, shoot all day"
now becomes, "load once, shoot for 6 or 7 deer seasons"
(and sort of gives all new meaning to "thinning the herd", you know)

as Albert might say, it's all relative

PS
I am a bolt & lever action guy myself
but Zumbo I ain't
know and obey the law and shoot what you shoot well

 

[zooski22]

target rich envioment

I hunt northern Wisconsin, a target rich environment were you can get as many doe tags as you want. If I have a chance to shoot multiple deer I need an autoloader with multiple rounds.

 

[Fremmer]

Sometimes having a really quick follow up shot makes a difference. I've missed a shot in the brush, and had the deer stop at the same time I started racking the bolt, which then scared off the deer (it was pretty close). A semi would have helped.

 

[Maverick223]

If I have a chance to shoot multiple deer I need an autoloader with multiple rounds.

I highly doubt that a SA rifle will make a bit of difference. They don't tend to stick around after the first shot has been fired.

 

[kyjoe]

Saiga .308. I converted it myself and took an 8 point buck with it last year at 90 yards with iron sights.

 

[oldfool]

I highly doubt that a SA rifle will make a bit of difference. They don't tend to stick around after the first shot has been fired.

yeah
"run like a wounded deer", don't even come close to
"run like an unwounded deer"

 

[93LXRag]

Hey TIMC, I like the way that scope looks on your AR-10. What kind is it? What kind of rings are you using? How is your eye relief?

I am looking for a scope for my LR-308 that will work from 100 to 600 yards and would appreciate your feedback on how you deciding on your combo.

 

[Maverick223]

"run like a wounded deer", don't even come close to
"run like an unwounded deer"

Exactly!

 

[LEVRLOVR]

"High capacity battle style deer rifle"........for deer that shoot back. I 'spose.

Don't forget your web gear and kevlar.

 

[Double Naught Spy]

TIMC, I take it that you shot those two ugly does on the last day of the season just so you could fill out your tags?

 

[MistWolf]

I see a couple of "You don't need a hi cap rifle (insert your favorite reason here)" posts in this thread. That's how socialists think, not Americans.

I don't care if the Zooski22 needs a 20 round magazine for hunting deer or not. If he wants a 20 round magazine, he can choose to have one. Pick a 25 round magazine. 25 round magazines are available for the Remington semi autos sold as hunting rifles. 30 round magazines are available for the M14, Fal and H&K-91. I'll pick to carry a 30 round magazine to hunt with according to my wants, not needs defined by someone else.

I'll hunt with a 50 round magazine available for the P-90. I'll hunt with a 100 round Calico magazine if I so choose and to hell with what any socialist may think I need.

I don't care if there exists any justification in anyone's mind. If you wish to hunt with a flintlock because no one needs more than one shot, so be it and don't let anyone tell you that if you were a real hunter, you'd dress up in a deer hide and stalk your buck until you were close enough to cut it's throat with a flint knife you napped yourself.

Don't give me any of that crap about the legalities of magazine capacities while hunting in certain states. I already know that and as an ethical hunter I obey the law so that's not argument either.

There are practical reasons why a person would choose a 20 round magazine. You have a full box of ammo already in the weapon should you find your lost or take a tumble down a hill or get caught in bad weather.

Sure, if you can get separated from your rifle as easily as your back back with the extra box of ammo. But the odds are now in your favor if the rifle itself has the extra ammo. If you find yourself in an extreme case that you need to fire three shots to signal for help but cannot reload the weapon because of injuries, you have 6 salvos instead of just one. Sounds unlikely? So what? I don't need to justify hunting with a magazine that holds 20 rounds or more. All I, or anyone else has to do is want to.

Just as there is no reason not to defend hearth & home with your hunting rifle, there's no reason not to hunt with the rifle you defend hearth & home

 

[06]

My first centerfire is a Winchester 100 in 308. That was about 40 yrs ago. I have had several auto loaders but my favorite deer rifle was an '03. It has been replaced with a 77 Ruger in '06 of course. My second/third choice is an old 742 carbine length and it's brother a 7400-- both in '06. Those have a removable mags and can handle extended(hi cap) mags. To answer your first question-- they will serve you well for a deer rifle and tactical shooter--and for a whole lot less $$$s.

 

[DaisyCutter]

I've got an FAL. It's more rifle than I'd care to carry for hunting, weight wise.


My recommendation is to get the FAL, then buy a rifle dedicated to hunting.


You get more guns that way.

 

[DaisyCutter]

I've got an FAL. It's more rifle than I'd care to carry for hunting, weight wise.


My recommendation is to get the FAL, then buy a rifle dedicated to hunting.


You get more guns that way.


One could argue that two .308s are better than one.

 

[Maverick223]

DaisyCutter welcome to THR! The edit button is on the right hand, bottom corner.

 

[fletchbutt152]

FNAR for sure. Winchester has one that is similar, much cheaper. Browning should modify their short tracs for box magazine. Come to think of it, not sure the Winny version takes box mags either.

That FN is quite fine though!

 

[TexAg]

I've got the Win version of the FNAR, it's the SX-AR. Cammo finish, a 10 round mag, bull barrel only and two fewer picatinny rails set it apart from the FN, but that's it. About $200 less too!

 

[Sunray]

You expecting a fire fight with Bambi? A lot of States don't allow 20 round mags for hunting either. Useless excess weight too. Not that a battle rifle is no good for hunting.

 

[zooski22]

read the original post before you make stupid comments

If you would take the time to read my original post you would've read that this will be a duel purpose rifle. I need a shtf rifle that is more than capable of putting meat on the table. As far as my states hunting regulations I can hunt with as many rounds in the magazine that I can fit in it. As far as shooting bambis, I hunt public land if I didn't kill it someone else would there's more than enough for everyone. IF IT'S BROWN IT'S DOWN.

 

[DaisyCutter]

IF IT'S BROWN IT'S DOWN.

Firstly, the above could very easily be taken out of context (esp in Arizona). It struck me funny. Probably a good idea to remove that bumper sticker before you do much traveling (I know it's not on your bumper, it's a joke).

Secondly, you typed "high capcity battle style deer rifle" into the subject line. A reasonable person would expect some colorful responses.


Here's what I've noticed. My FAL isn't as precise as my Savage .308. With higher-end factory ammo, like Hornady Light Mag, I can decapitate a prarie dog at a couple hundred yards with the bolt action.

My FAL would undoubtedly kill a deer. Heck between it's caliber & volume of fire, it'll kill anything big enough to die.... including a mob of rabid zombie mulies. In a pinch, it would work for hunting. I'm sure I could put down a deer at 200-300 yards, but probably not with a clean textbook hit. (BTW, like you, I considered using it for hunting... until I felt how big it is. In southern AZ, you could end up facing a band of armed smugglers during a hunt.)

I headspaced my FAL so it would feed & fire .308 and 7.62X51 NATO. My Savage .308 doesn't like to fully close it's bolt on ~15% of the surplus FAL ammo. Note, another FAL may not like .308.

Back in the day, it was fun practicing with cheap (at the time) surplus ammo in the bolt action.

I've never hunted with my FAL. If I had to, I could carry it all day. I wouldn't want to. It's heavy! There are pokey bits that dig into my back.

I much prefer the 7 lb sleek & smooth, accurized bolt action for hunting. Heck, I'm a lefty... which is why I prefer the generally more "neutral" semi auto ergonomics. I still grab my right hand operation bolt action for hunting.

I prefer a tool optomized for the job. For the $2300 you mentioned, you can get a "fork" and a "spoon"... instead of trying to do it all with a "spork". I've only got $1300 invested into 2 the rifles in the picture above.