Highschool: Anti-Gun Environment

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Just curious how many people here went through a school that was anti-gun? I grewup in Chicago and for the most part in middle school, we had some pretty knowledgeable teachers who said a gun can't hurt anyone just sitting on a table. High School was quite different, teachers were openly against guns and stated there was no need to have them and how the 2nd ammendment was only intended for our militia to fight off the British and because we have a military and a country, that no longer applys. Also the general environment in high school.

So lets take a look at some of the kids

-The rebels, punks seemed to be against guns but were also in some sort of hippy movement. Burned bibles, bashed religion and were mainly atheist, wore the Che guerra shirts like commies and didn't even know what it stood for. Hated these kids.

-The Religious kids, most of them didn't help either, they were mainly against guns and most of my Jewish friends took a pro gun control stance as they were liberal. Ugh

-Goths, for the most part they thought they were columbine killers and wore the trench coats until our school banned them.

-Preps/Jocks, don't think they cared.

So for the most part our school didn't allow us to talk about guns at all, you could not wear coats, had to have your backpacks in the lockers at all times, etc. large zero tolerance policy in effect with the exception the jocks never got into any trouble for beating the **** out of someone

So my question is, it's against school policy (I'm graduated now) to disrepect teachers yet they are shoving their anti-gun liberal views down our throat? Doesn't seem right.

Anyones go to a school like this?
 
We'd leave class after the final bell, go out to the parking lot, put on our blaze orange, open up the trunk, pull out a rifle and walk into the woods -- this was normal. First day of buck, doe, turkey or bear was a day off school
 
My principal told a story about a rat he had been trying to catch for a long time in his house. It became his nemesis.

One day, he saw it sitting along the baseboard in his hallway. He grabbed a .38 and let fly. It ran, and he followed it with his front sight, firing. His lead must have been off because, when he was out of ammo, there were six holes in the wall and the rat ran away.:D

There was a lot to dislike about him, really, but he wasn't anti-gun.
 
yesterday's hippies are teaching todays kids.

the infection of academia (not just secondary school but also university level) by the rabid unwashed radical left is well-documented, and unfortunately, legion.

i spent a good chunk of my college career fighting the liberals at a "conservative" independent campus newspooper (in fact it was the one that started them all).

my favorite topic, which raised the hackles of leftards and even some "george will" conservatives, was ...

... the second amendment. heck, i even got the NRA to advertise in our paper.
 
yesterday's hippies are teaching todays kids.
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Most of them could be stripped of their credentials if they were caught with their recreational drugs, too. At least the ones I know.

Damn, though, as a libertarian, I don't think it would be moral to snitch on them for their personal habits, no matter what good it might do our kids.:D
 
my stepfather's hunting partner

was my elementary and junior-high principal. Ducks and Pheasants, and IIRC, once or twice, squirrel.

He did, however, take away from me at least one of those luger squirt guns each year. I think he got a kick back from the local dime store, and they just kept recycling / reselling them.

FWIW, This was in Sinclair Lewis' Gopher Prairie, about 1956-60.
 
I graduated in 2004 and throughout that time teachers never shoved anything down our throats. The only time where the 2nd amendment was brought up as a matter of debate was when I decided to do a project on it for my government class. That was the one and only time where I encountered a teacher who expressed their anti-gun views.
 
High School

Well, our principal was a little put out by the number of, uh, illnesses reported during the first week of deer season every year. Does that count? No? And my algebra teacher reminded us that you had to stand downwind if you wanted to get close?

But then, I graduated in '67.

We had an annual chem lab prank that involved mixing iodine and ammonia and sprinkling the resultant brown grains along the floor of the science wing. And then there was the usual "volcano" using magnesium shavings and phosphorus. Not to mention the tightly-taped coke bottle that went BANG! when filled with two parts hydrogen and one part oxygen with a spark scraper over the top.

They wouldn't let us mix up gunpowder either. Not without supervision. And we never EVER blew anything up on the hill behind the science wing, either. That's an ugly rumor.

And we won't talk about the Van de Graaff generator tricks . . .

* Sigh. *
 
Always had the ever popular rifles in the pickup windows out in the student parking lot during hunting season . Had hunter safety and one of the requirements was to bring in what you were going to hunt with so the teacher could go over safety as well as make sure the firearm was safe to shoot.. BTW , no shootings ever happened at that school . All disputes were settled the old fashioned way , going just off school property and duking it out . So much for the good ol days :uhoh:
 
Ohmigawllllly... A news flash. High school teachers who are scared bleepless of guns, which they do not understand.

THR _really_ needs several new forums... I'm thinking that Video Games, Paintball, Democratic Underground, and What I'm Doing to Anger My Suburban Parents would be a darn fine start.
 
I was in HS in the early-mid 80's.

The rural HS in CT had no problem w/ guns, and yes, "Palladium of Liberty" was mentioned in American History class.

The rural HS in NJ was scared bleepless of the obviously toy prop I brought in for the school play, but sensible enough not to call SWAT on me until they had a few words.
 
I finished High School in the late 80s in Brisbane, Australia and went to a well known private school. My school was mostly country boys and squatter's sons so rifles were nothing special. My school had a rifle safety course, we didn't have cadets but other schools did including some state schools.
This of course was a long time before Martin Bryant:barf:
 
Originally Posted by Pilman:

Highschool: Anti-Gun Environment

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Just curious how many people here went through a school that was anti-gun? I grewup in Chicago and for the most part in middle school, we had some pretty knowledgeable teachers who said a gun can't hurt anyone just sitting on a table. High School was quite different, teachers were openly against guns and stated there was no need to have them and how the 2nd ammendment was only intended for our militia to fight off the British and because we have a military and a country, that no longer applys. Also the general environment in high school.

So lets take a look at some of the kids

-The rebels, punks seemed to be against guns but were also in some sort of hippy movement. Burned bibles, bashed religion and were mainly atheist, wore the Che guerra shirts like commies and didn't even know what it stood for. Hated these kids.

-The Religious kids, most of them didn't help either, they were mainly against guns and most of my Jewish friends took a pro gun control stance as they were liberal. Ugh

-Goths, for the most part they thought they were columbine killers and wore the trench coats until our school banned them.

-Preps/Jocks, don't think they cared.

So for the most part our school didn't allow us to talk about guns at all, you could not wear coats, had to have your backpacks in the lockers at all times, etc. large zero tolerance policy in effect with the exception the jocks never got into any trouble for beating the **** out of someone

So my question is, it's against school policy (I'm graduated now) to disrepect teachers yet they are shoving their anti-gun liberal views down our throat? Doesn't seem right.

Anyones go to a school like this?
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You have completely generalized all the different high school cliques. I know a few people who have fit into all of the different cliques and each has their own individual beliefs.

For example the Che Guevara kids and the goth could have described me and some of my friends. And we knew what it stood for. However as we got older we matured and our outlook changed as we realized the world wasnt like that.

Some of those religious kids are progun control but I can name a few who were not for any sort of gun control.

Those prep kids, a lot of them are my friends and they are just down to Earth people who dress snappy. A few believe the media and what it says about guns as well as some do not believe the media.

The stereotype that all the GOth kids are serial killer/Columbine killers is a pretty offensive one. The majority of the Goth kids I knew were nothing like this and were victimized by a quick to judge population due to the actions of someone else. They were told they could not wear leather coats and many were searched and harassed simply because someone else (the Columbine killers) committed a crime.

So I am sorry to say but your stereotypes make you sound like a typical antigunner.

As for your question, please ask one. You just said that it was against school policy and that some teachers are anti gun. Whats your point? Is your point that it seems wrong that some teachers shove their antigun bias down the kids throats while not presenting the opposite side of the argument?

Cause if it is I agree that it is wrong.
 
I graduated from a rural Washington state high school in 1996. In 1995, I was walking campus all day with a live katana, scabbarded. Needed it for a fight recreation in literature class. Another buddy was walking around with a similar sword. We spent several weeks putting the choreography together for it.

No problems. No one hurt, no SWAT showing up.
 
My highschool art teacher was a class3 dealer. Some teachers I had were anti though.
 
Quite strange, but I had a teacher in college that taought us the ethical side of Computing. I found it a surprise to find out that he actually supported repealing the bans over here.

Mind you, the teacher that ran the Network lab is a member here, so I suppose I was lucky.
 
I graduated high school in 1991. We weren't 'supposed' to bring guns to school, but the policy was pretty lax so long as you kept them in the trunk of your car. Friends and I would go duck hunting before school, or we'd have our rifles in the trunks of our cars and go out to one of my friend's grandfater's farm to shoot rotten watermellons, pumpkins, and canteloupe left in the fields.

The biology teacher ran a big buck contest for gun deer season.
 
ArmedBear.... now that was funny, in a sick sort of way.

:scrutiny:
 
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yesterday's hippies are teaching todays kids.
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Can't tell you people how true this is. Four or five years ago when I was still in high school I got suspended for five days for having a NRA magazine in my locker. Even though the school had several Field & Stream magazines in the library. But then again I wasn't the best student, they would use any excuse to suspend me. :D
 
I graduated HS in 1999 and I honestly dont remember any real gun discussion except for my history teacher commenting he had a holster on the back of his headboard. He was clearly reasonably fine with gun ownership but I don't remember any comments that stuck with me as being really pro 2nd amendment.
 
'safe schools initiative'

The school where I work has this 'safe schools' crap you wouldn't believe. They mean well I'm sure, I mean, they don't want bloody kids sprawled on the floor of the hallways and bodies piled up at the doors. The way they go about it is to outlaw scissors, or have them put away where students can't see them. Only blunt tools are allowed, no mention of violence or bullying or anything of such nature in art or writing. Zero tolerance BS, a signed pledge for ALL student that says "No violence or WEAPONS in my school or community." I didn't sign it. Nor did a few thinking students, since they have plenty of weapons in their 'communities'. Then there's my class...
One student brought in a DOWEL ROD with a WOODEN sort of stock on it for an africa safari project, principle said "Don't bring that back in here."(natural wood, no black, tape, or color, no holes, no metal) So we put up a picture of the kid with his 870 or .243 on the board when refering to the "African Hunter".
The best part was when I accidentally left a picture of one of my buddies firing an SKS on the school camera :D Librarians crapped their pants and came to find me and ask if it was me, I said no but it WAS my rifle. . .
All in all, you have to be proactive to have a say in the issue. Most teachers are just led blindly into a stance thinking anything gun related is bad due to manipulation of the Ultimate Wuss legislation. This week we had to fill out a safe school questionaire, under the section "What could we do to make your school safer?" i wrote,

Give teachers concealed carry weapon permits :rolleyes:

THE BEST PART!!!
A kid asked what I wanted for Christmas, I said "Ammo". The next day he came in and said, "Since I can't bring it to school here's a gift card to Dick's Sporting Goods". Ahhh. Teaching:D :D :D

ST, the still employed
 
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