Highschool: Anti-Gun Environment

[Old Fuff]

Joe Demko:

Will post #25 do for documentation?

 

[jazurell]

Graduated in 1962...Small bore rifle competition was a Varsity Sport....lettered for 3 years. Team was second in state my senior year. Those that could afford their own rifles, brought them to school for practice and matches, stored them in our lockers during the day. All ammo was in the coaches office.
But that was back when guns weren't evil and paranoia had not set in.
Don't know if they still have a rifle team or not...probably not.

 

[Joe Demko]

Will post #25 do for documentation?

What do you think? It's a post on a message board. Maybe it's true, maybe it isn't. The claim was made that:

the infection of academia (not just secondary school but also university level) by the rabid unwashed radical left is well-documented

If you were a teacher or professor, would you accept post #25 as documentation of a something cited as fact?

 

[Old Fuff]

Joe:

How do we know if you're who you say you are??? What you post isn't documented either.

But then, I'm not sure I know who I am...

 

[migoi]

I would accept...

post 25 as evidence of schools being anti-gun on the condition that posts 2 3 6 9 10 12 13 15 16 19 20 24 and 27 are accepted as evidence that teachers are overwhelmingly pro-gun.

Two way street and all...

migoi

 

[rugerdude]

I go to BTW highschool in Tulsa, Oklahoma and I think the students are more anti-gun than the teachers.

I have completely stopped even entertaining any gun "debates" (read: people acusing me of being a wannabe murderer just because I like to target shoot) because it all just boils down to them yelling "Nobody needs that" or "what do you think THEY'RE practicing for when shooting targets?!?!"

One morning I had a gun advertisement page with me as I went into my tech theater class and the teacher said that I couldn't have that in school because it depicted guns. I didn't say a word, I simply turned around so he could see the back of my HK shirt which had various versions of the MP-5 on it.

He's not violently anti-gun and he's actually a pretty nice guy most of the time. We even had a few mutual laughs because the gun ads had misprints and stuff in them.

A friend and I are also going to start a school gun club, and we'll meet in our russian class because the teacher is a gun nut. She's always willing to talk about her guns (so far, I know she's got a Garand, a 1917 Enfield and a yugo M70).

So overall, I don't think HS is that bad of an anti-gun enviornment, but this is Oklahoma. I fear that when my generation becomes teachers is when it will be bad.

Also, in middle school, I had no problems bringing firearm replicas to school for various projects. Once I brought a pellet pistol, and the principal was very reasonable about it. On another occasion I brought a replica musket I made usin a steel bar and a ruger 10/22 stock. Looked just like a semi-auto shotgun and I got no trouble for it.

 

[Old Fuff]

migoi:

post 25 as evidence of schools being anti-gun on the condition that posts 2 3 6 9 10 12 13 15 16 19 20 24 and 27 are accepted as evidence that teachers are overwhelmingly pro-gun.

Two way street and all...

I presume that you're not serious...

Most of those posts refer to conditions years ago, and in particular lets look at post #27:

Graduated in 1962...Small bore rifle competition was a Varsity Sport....lettered for 3 years. Team was second in state my senior year. Those that could afford their own rifles, brought them to school for practice and matches, stored them in our lockers during the day. All ammo was in the coaches office. But that was back when guns weren't evil and paranoia had not set in. Don't know if they still have a rifle team or not...probably not.

 

[migoi]

As serious..

as I would be in suggesting one anecdote by one teacher constitutes proof that

the infection of academia (not just secondary school but also university level) by the rabid unwashed radical left is well-documented, and unfortunately, legion.

You seem to be the one that lowered the bar of "proof" to such a ridiculous level. Don't get snarky when others use your standard to claim the opposite.

migoi

 

[lance22]

Pro Gun Prof's in Community College

I never heard any real anti-gun drivel until college. Then, I heard it constantly. I realize the topic is High School, and no, I never heard any anti-gun bs in High School.

My kids go to a community college in MN, and some of the Profs are vocally pro gun which is a great relief to me. Even if later they go to bigger / better schools and hear the usual BS, they know that not all prof's are anti-gun.

I appreciate it all the more because sometimes kids need to hear things from somebody other than Dad.

 

[Carl]

In Highschool (few years ago) a friend of mine and I were in this english class. The female teacher had us cut things out of magazines and put them on a piece of paper to show what we thought what the american dream consists of. Well, Jeff had a picture of a pistol on there, to represent the 2nd amendment. The teacher didn't like it and they kinda argued back and forth about it until she sent him to the office.

Later he told me that it turns out our principal is a big hunter and told him to tell the teacher that he said it was okay.

Other than things like that I never saw much of a negative nor a positive view on guns and gun control in school. It was rather neutral.

 

[Evil Monkey]

I graduated in 2005, to give you a glance at the time period.

I used to borrow gun books from the library all the time. I've never heard anything anti-gun from anybody. I did hear alot of pro-gun talk from my friends.

I'm pretty sure alot of students would hear us talk about guns, but after a while, they would leave us alone simply because they realize that we are hobbyists and are not talking about killing people.

The question, "How does an AK47 work?" does not create discomfort like saying "I got a AK47 to kill so and so tonight."

 

[Prince Yamato]

I would venture to say that most high-schools are anti-gun. I think some of this stems from the fact that most teachers lack spines and are afraid to pee without a government permit. The rest of it stems from the school shootings in the late 1990s. I think that a student showing intrest in guns is viewed with suspiscion. I teach at a university and am VERY pro-gun, I can tell a person with a healthy interest (HD, hunting, etc) in guns from one with an unhealthy interest in them ("wouldn't it be cool to see what that'd do to a jock") the trouble is, most teachers cannot. It scares the hell out of me to think that campuses (high school, college, or otherwise) are all unarmed. If some kid does become unhinged, you need to sit there and wait for the SWAT team, while he takes out a couple students and teachers. I think the words "student" "school", and "gun" immediately conjure up Columbine in people's heads. It amazes me that 10 years later, there has been no real solution offered up to this problem- well, CCW in schools was and IS a real solution, but one that is rejected.

 

[doubleg]

I once had a teacher make some really ignorant comments to me. I was sitting at a table during class and said out loud that I thought the school should have a rifle team. The teacher blurted out "What would they call it, the columbine club". So I did the right thing and ingored her comment. Later on she called me a Nazi in front of the whole class. I again ignored her and continued with what I was doing. After class she pleaded with me to not snitch on her because if I did she would definatley get fired. I agreed because I knew it was the right thing to do. She thanked me by having a talk with my other teachers and having me moved up a grade. Patience and restraint really do pay off.

 

[bumm]

I graduated from High School in Lincoln, Nebraska in 1968, and I can't remember any pro or anti remarks being made about guns. I remember some teachers talking about hunting, and at least one picture of a couple of students hunting in the yearbook, so I suppose guns were just accepted without much thought.
Marty