Historical black powder rifles?

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I might want to buy a replica of a black powder rifle. The problem is that I don't know anything about their history, and I want a replica that is historically accurate. Mebbe y'all can help me make sense of the different types of replica muzzleloaders out there.

First off, what type of rifle would be historically accurate for the following hypothetical people:
- A 1700's fur trader from the northern Midwest area (my home, as it happens)
- A late 1700's to early 1800's homesteader in the Blue Ridge region of the Appalachians
- A minuteman
- A civil war soldier, (either side, any time period, just name any that are appropriate, please)

Second, I've heard of a few different types of replica rifles, but I don't know what any of the terms mean. What's the difference between:
- A Kentucky rifle
- A Tennessee rifle
- A Pennsylvania rifle
- A Hawkens rifle
- A Great Plains rifle
- A mountain rifle
- Any other common types that I haven't heard of

Finally, as if I haven't asked for enough already, who makes good replicas of any of the rifle's that would fit descriptions I've listed above?

Thanks a bunch for the help.
 
If you're talking about the Midwest up to 1760s, it's most likely a French or Dutch trade gun. Certainly there were some Fusils de Tulle about, rifles weren't very common in the midwest in the early period. When the native Americans learned of rifles, they wanted them more than the smoothbore trade guns because they appreciated the value of accuracy. As the French & Indian War (we're talking the one from 1755-1760) was waged, more rifles were introduced into the midwest as settlers encroached upon lands traditionally hunted by the Indians.

As the Ohio Basin was settled, more rifles appeared and by 1775, it was boasted that in one county alone, over 6,000 riflemen could be raised.

Let's move on a bit. While New England gunsmiths could and did make rifles, the majority of guns made in New England were smoothbore fowlers or militia muskets. Rifle production was predominantly in Pennsylvania and Virginia where German settlers established the American rifle tradition. The short barrel, big bore jager rifles (go to Westpoint Museum for an example of a military jager rifle) evolved into the longer, smaller bore and slender American long rifle. Early examples were thicker at the wrist and the buttplates tended to be flatter. Because they were bigger bore, powder horns tended to be bigger during that period. By the time of the American Revolution, the rifles were thinner and most of them no longer had a patchbox with a sliding wood lid. Many now featured a brass one (remember there are always exceptions). Correspondingly with the smaller bore, smaller powder horns were used.

After the war, the guns became even more slender and the buttplates could become more crescent shaped (fired from the arm and not the shoulder). During the time when the Constitution was signed (1792), the "Federal" period came into being and the long rifle was reaching it's zenith in terms of architecture and refinement. While relief carving, engraving and wire inlay has been found on some earlier guns, they became more common during this time. You'll find a good example of a Golden Age flintlock at the Westpoint Military Museum.

Design and taste were regional. In the poorer counties, fancy architecture could be dispensed with & a working gun evolved. This is the origin of the Tennessee Poor Boy. Generally lacking in refinement, the poor boy features simple and clean lines and is a graceful rifle in and of itself. Most did not have a patchbox and had instead a grease hole cut into the stock from which the hunter could lubricate his patches. Iron hardware (trigger guard and buttplate) were common and the tang tended to be more spear point that the Virginia or Pennsylvania rifle. It was believed that the spear point would shatter the wood behind the tang less when the gun recoiled. Jerry Noble's books (Notes on the Southern Long Rifle, Vol I & II) are about the best you'll find on these guns.

Makers in affluent Pennsylvania and Virginia could afford to dress their guns up more and they did. There are styles (or schools) that distinguish guns made in one county to another. Customer demand often dictated how the gun appeared too (just like today the more $, the more fancy). James B. Whisker's series of books are excellent for photographic research. Ditto for George Shumway's Colonial Rifles of America and Joe Kindig's Thoughts on the Kentucky Rifle.

After Lewis & Clark returned home, several members of the Corps of Discovery returned West as professional trappers. Because a heavier gun was needed for the bigger game (think buffalo & bear), the bore became larger. Barrels were shortened to make the gun handier (and lighter because of the bigger bore). They were also become thicker so as to make them sturdier when carried on horseback. The Plains/Mountain Man Rifle thus came into being. Mind you, no single rifle is representative of this genre of Fur Trade rifle. The "Hawkins" itself was not the predominant arm that many are led to believe today. There were numerous makes but the characteristics generally follow the description given above (until someone who is more awake than I read this, spurt out their coffee from their nose when he laughs and types in a rebuttal).

The American Civil War is perhaps the most confusing period of American firearms history. The shortage of arms resulted in both North & South sending agents to Europe to procure as many arms as they could. Guns were purchased throughout Europe to meet the demands.

OK, let's stick to simple things. If you must have a rifle musket, get a Springfield (1861 or 1863) for either side. If the South didn't have it, it would capture it from the Yankees. If you want an import, the most commonly used imported rifle musket was the Enfield. It was also the most accurate of all rifle muskets. Both Springfield and Enfield come in various lenghts, but the long 39" barrel is generally the most common one seen in the pictures. If you want to play Confederate sharpshooter, go with the shorter, 33" barrel two band Enfield.

Enough for tonight. I'm tired and want to see the election results.
 
Thanks for the info, Gary. That gives me a starting point for some research. I especially appreciate the book titles you mentioned.

Do you know any more good books that I should look for?
 
Another good question.

For American Civil War, the book I always turn to is William Edward's Civil War Guns. Still in print after 40 years, I turn to it every now and then when I need more information on guns. There are many other books that will give more specific details about a particular gun, but Edward's book is a good starting point on virtually any Civil War gun. If you want easier reading and are interested in shooting (like I am), then Joe Bilby's Civil War Firearms is good too (and gives info for shooting loads).

On earlier Pennsylvania guns, I'd start out with Henry Kauffman's The Pennsylvania-Kentucky Rifle. I bought mine used for$35. kauffman discusses the devleopment of the rifle and the characteristics that distinguish between one county (school) in Pennsylvania and another. He gives a lot of info on the maker.

Mind you, it's a book about Pennsylvania guns and not the longrifle in general. Riflemakers thrived in Virginia and elsewhere during the Revolution. By the time of the War of 1812, they were all over the South and Midwest too and New England. There's a lot of books just on particular counties too (the James Whisker Series out of New Bedford, PA and George Shumway series).

BTW, thank you for the original question. I had to think about it and should consider writing something better for my own work.
 
Most of those titles are out of print and/or uncommon. That means that a) my local library doesn't have any of them, and b) they're pretty expensive to purchase.

Could you recomend just one title for me to start with? I'm interested in learning about the history and development of firearms in the Colonies/U.S. Specifically, what types of firearms were used, where were they used, when were they used, and who were they used by?



Incidentally, my hometown is Fort Wayne, Indiana. Fort Wayne was the final result of an ongoing struggle between the French, British, and Miami Indians throughout the 1700s for control of the intersection of 3 major rivers. I go to school at Purdue University, where a mere 10 miles away one can find General Harrison's Tippecanoe battlefield. The more I learn about all of this nearby history the more facscinated I become. Combine this history with my shooting interests and, well, I'm definitely hooked!

I certainly appreciate your help.
 
It is a delight to find a young man who is interested in both guns and history.

To start with, go to: www.dixiegunworks.com

Then spend $5.00 for their catalog. You will get a big, thick book that is filled with information on all of the guns and time periods you are interested in. They also offer an extensive selection of accessories and have a long list of various books and other publications. This one book alone will get you started - then go from there, and good luck.
 
OK, my favorite is M. L. Brown's Firearms in Colonial America and you can get it as low as $50. Published by the Smithsonian Institution, it covers from the first colonists/explorers all the way up to the creation of Springfield Armory in 1792.

Now, you should be able to find Robert Held's The Age of Firearms in either your local library or your University library. Held's book covers from early firearms up to percussion era. There's also inter-library loan for any other book you may want to read. Held's book may have also been printed in paperback. You can get a used hardcover copy for less than $20. BTW, if you're into engraving, there's some nice drawings in it too.
 
Thanks for the info, y'alls. I've ordered a copy of the Dixie Gun folks' catalog. Why do I get the feeling that this catalog is going to cost me a lot more than $5??

I sent off for the The Age of Firearms, and was told there was a second work by the same author titled The Age of Firearms: A Pictorial History. I don't know what the difference between them is, but the second title was only $3, so I bought it as well.

I haven't found a copy of Firearms in Colonial America yet that was available for less than $80. I'll keep looking, and/or save up some more money. I hope to have a copy of that one within a few weeks.

Thanks for the help. I look forward to receiving the new information that's on its way to me.
 
Ain't that Gary guy smart? :)

One thing to think about is if any particular historical period or type of action appeals to you. Do you like long rifles or short handy carbines? Do you want flintlock, percussion, or even self-contained cartridges? Load from the breech or front-stuffer? Do you like rifles or scatterguns better? Will you hunt with this, or just play on the range and decorate your home?

As a gross oversimlification.. 1700's-early 1800's rifles are long and slender with a flintlock firing mechanism (the hammer holds a piece of flint which hits a steel plate, ignites the priming charge, and that ignites the main charge). mid-late 1800's pieces tended to be shorter, thicker, and use a percussion lock.. think of it like sticking a cartridge primer on the side of the gun and whacking it with a hammer to get the main charge to go off. :)

I do believe the early fusils Gary mentions that were used in your area were smoothbore, as were all mainline military arms into the mid-1800s. Smoothbores load faster, but aren't as accurate as rifled arms. They can also use shot, of course. By the Civil War period, we were using "rifle-muskets" -- the bore was rifled, but the projectile was of small enough diameter you could just drop it down the bore. When the charge went of, the base of the projectile expanded to grip the rifling.

Towards the end of this period, breechloaders come on the scene, most notably the Sharps, though there were all manner in use at the time. Then you can get into Black Powder cartridge arms... rolling block, trapdoor springfield, sharps cartridge arms.. this is the 1870's-1890's period, give or take.
 
Thanks for the info, Kaylee. I suppose I'd want whatever is historically appropriate for the type of rifle(s) I decide I want. At this point I have no preferences about flintlock vs. caplock, rifled vs smoothbore, and so forth. I'm hoping that during my research some particular style will jump out and say "you want me!" and I'll just buy whatever that is, regardless of the particulars.

Incidentally, a friend of mine recommended a book called The Muzzleloading Caplock Rifle by Ned Roberts. I'm told that it has lots of good info on shooting blackpowder rifles. Should I shell out for this title as well?
 
Ned Robert's book is a classic and a must read. It's a primer for old guns & gun making. With my preference towards military flintlock guns, I was skeptical (and not into caplocks) about reading it. Once I overcame my prejudices and started reading it, I couldn't put it down.

BTW, I hope you've peeked into Bedtime Stories or Sharpshooter Tales.
 
Scroll down the blackpowder forum and you'll see a lengthy thread by that name. Be prepared for some fun historical reading.
 
Track of the Wolf's catalog is pretty darn cool to. $10, but again.. worth it if you want an education.

TVM is also a pretty good repro place I believe.
 
The photos for most items in Track of the Wolf are 1:1 scale and their photography is very good. Their catalogs are keepers.
 
Headless Thompson Gunner said:
What is "Bedtime Stories or Sharpshooter Tales"?


For lack of a better way to describe it, it is Gary's "campfire storytellin' " thread about blackpowder sniping.
It is very cool. :cool:
I make it a habit to check it every once in awhile in case anyone has added anything new.
 
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