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Saiga 12 with 12 rd mags loaded with #4 buckshot . I have about 3 12 rd mags loaded with this round. The #4 buckshot doesn't over-penetrate like the 00 buckshot does. Considering I have neighbors very close to me, #4 is a good option for me. If you are in the country, maybe 00 is a better option. I also have my S&W M&P 9mm with laser grips ready for backup. I really would like to get a laser sight for my Saiga 12, but haven't had the time.
 
The gun on my person, failing that* the guns that go on my hip are hot and holstered, in a handy location. And if those just won't do, I'll have to make the choice between Tokarev or .30 Carbine, 30-30 or a 9x19 carbine ... but in my home there just isn't a need for long guns, everything is in handgun range.

* (hey, I'm not armed all the time at home, I'm only armed just a bit less than the paranoia cutoff)


Evergreen, don't the rounds defirm over time in the Saiga mags?
 
I always answer that question like this: Whichever gun you can shoot in the dead of night and half asleep. Since most (not all) break-ins occur at night when you're likely to be asleep, you need to be able to reach your firearm quickly and get it into battery (if not already) without even thinking. You should try this drill at home with your HD gun loaded with snap caps only: Have your spouse/significant other/alarm clock wake you up at 2:00 a.m. and see how quickly you can find your gun and ready it and get to a predesignated spot in your house in less than 30 seconds. It's harder than you think but a good drill to practice.
 
only if they are in the gun with the bolt closed
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Well I learned something, I always thought they deformed from the magazine spring and being on each other. If it is just from being shoved against a closed bolt I'll have to move the S-12 up the list a few slots.
 
My two pitbull-boxer mix dogs. The reality of it is, THEY will be the first ones that detect a break in, and the first line of defense. If someone is dumb enough to try to or continue to break in after they hear the dogs, my first choice would be my Ithaca 37 featherlight 12 gauge trench gun with 20" cylinder barrel (c 1968).

Warner
 
First line of Defense, decent locks and heavy doors. Second line of Defense, two American Bulldogs. Now if anyone gets past these two, I, with 12 guage in hand, am the third line of defense. However, depending on how well my new 9mm carbine functions, I may end up using that as the go to closet gun. Handgun purchase will come when taxes do, so I may need a change up in the batting order.
 
only if they are in the gun with the bolt closed
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Why would that make a difference? We are talking about the spring causing the shells to compress widthwise (as opposed to lengthwise in a tube mag). If they are in the mag, the spring is causing a compression force.

I'm not saying they will compress (although I could see that happening over time) I'm just asking why would it matter if the mag is in the gun or not?
 
Handgun I always carry. Work my way to my 12 gauge down the fatal funnel in the bedroom.
 
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G17 w/night sights mounted on bed frame. Beretta 1201FP if needed in RSC.
 
What is your personal favorite that you would reach for, for self defense in your home?
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39spl FBI load

My HD revolvers are both 357, but they're stoked with the 158gr lead semiwadcutter hollowpoints that have a long track record of being effective.
 
It depends.

Not including the wrought iron bars, double doors and locks, and two dogs, is this a bump in the night that I think might be an intruder, or is this a definate intruder intent on harming me and mine?

If I'm going forth to seek what made that bump in the night I will don my bullet reisitant vest and my everyday carry gun, Colt Rail Gun with TLR1, along with handheld flashlight. If I'm barricaded in the safe room it will be the 12 Guage. If I have to go bring others to the safe room, either the M4 or the Rail Gun. I can manuver better with the M4 than I can with the 12 Guage.

The tool selected will depend upon the task.

BikerRN
 
A readily available 12 gauge, locked doors, noisy dog.

I used to live on the corner of a busy intersection that had a bus stop that seemed to draw some of societies finest so at night every door was locked, even the bedroom door. I figure the more doors they have to get through the more noise I'll hear and hopefully be able to get my 870 and be ready if they make it through the bedroom door.

Dogs big or small can make noise but bigger dogs bite harder and overall are more intimidating just make sure you don't have a sign saying beware of dog cause some low life will know you have a dog, get bit on purpose and sue you.
 
Dogs big or small can make noise but bigger dogs bite harder and overall are more intimidating just make sure you don't have a sign saying beware of dog cause some low life will know you have a dog, get bit on purpose and sue you.
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I believe Castle Doctrine laws prevent a criminal (or their next of kin) from sueing if they are injured in the commission of a crime. At least, we in Michigan have that protection.

I'd rather have the sign (which I currently do not) and hope that might be another deterrent to some low life who may want to break in.
 
...for self defense in your home?
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It seems we often think of this in terms of an intrusion while we sleep. Let's not neglect other scenarios that should be considered...

1. The afternoon knock at the front door, while the accomplice heads to the back door.
2. The stranger that appears in your driveway while you're under the car changing oil.
3. Someone that finds a crow bar in your garage while you are cutting grass on the other side of the house.
4. etc, etc

Your scenarios will vary according to the "lay of land" where you live, but most seem to call for carrying at home.
 
I always answer that question like this: Whichever gun you can shoot in the dead of night and half asleep. Since most (not all) break-ins occur at night when you're likely to be asleep, you need to be able to reach your firearm quickly and get it into battery (if not already) without even thinking. You should try this drill at home with your HD gun loaded with snap caps only: Have your spouse/significant other/alarm clock wake you up at 2:00 a.m. and see how quickly you can find your gun and ready it and get to a predesignated spot in your house in less than 30 seconds. It's harder than you think but a good drill to practice.


Actually, most home break-ins are robberies and happen during the day when people are not typically home.
 
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