Home Defense | Thompson 1927A-1 vs AR15

[gotboostvr]

SERIOUSLY?!? Oooh, that may be a game-changer.

ZR

https://www.griffinarmament.com/1-375x24-cutts-compensator-mount-for-the-bushwhacker-46/

I've already got a BW46 in jail too, just need the 1928!

 

[General Geoff]

The first time I picked one up, I was amazed at how heavy a 1927 is. I was like; "Why not just ask for a Garand?"

Just try to imagine holding one at the ready until the police arrive.

Wasn't the original doctrine behind using the Thompson, to fire from the hip? Much easier to hold there than keeping it shouldered.

 

[Nasty Canasta]

 

[BreechFace]

Kriss Vector in 45ACP if one desires a 45ACP for home defense. They can be found online in the carbine 16” version for $1,350 or so from time to time.

However, a 9” 300 BLK pistol AR (1:7 twist) will be a better tool for the job in my opinion. Especially if one has a suppressor you can run 110-130gr supers suppressed. But if no suppressor some 220-240gr expanding subs would be the ticket.

 

[Stevie-Ray]

I can't recall if this was a realistic moment or not... I remember watching miller's crossing and I remember this scene vividly and I'll have to watch the clip again, but didn't he expend something upwards of 200-300 rds through a single drum during this barrage of fire? Or did he stop to reload. I can't recall those bits.

I remember thinking g the old man had some moves, lol. Moving like a cat and jumping down onto the lawn.... pretty great movie...

No reload. In the "magic" of movies, there can be, like computer games, an unlimited ammo choice. This was definitely one of those times. That 50 round drum lasted several hundred. Hell, he put about 3 drums worth into the second assassin, after a full drum went into the floor and bed. And I seriously doubt Albert Finney did his own stunts. Still a great movie.

 

[ZenRooster]

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That's a very interesting ad. The copy mentions that the Thompson was intended to be shouldered on semi-auto and shot from the hip (for more control, I suppose) on full auto. I never knew that.

I also didn't know that the Thompson was made with only 30 parts. That's impressive. Fewer parts to break is always a good thing.

I'm rethinking my position on the Tommy Gun with every post of this highly informative thread. Thanks, everyone!

ZR

 

[CapnMac]

Wasn't the original doctrine behind using the Thompson, to fire from the hip?

It has a pretty elaborate rear sight for something "meant" for point/reflex shooting. You'd probably want 1:5 tracers in the magazine to do it well.

 

[ZenRooster]

I bought a barrel mount + green laser sight, but I haven't attached it to my Thompson yet. Maybe this week I'll do it and take my Tommy to the range.

ZR

 

[Carl N. Brown]

The first time I picked one up, I was amazed at how heavy a 1927 is. I was like; "Why not just ask for a Garand?" ...

The semi-auto Thompson is heavier than a Garand by an average of two pounds. Due to varying density of wood in Garand stocks, M1 Garands range from 9.5 to 11 pounds, average about 10 lbs. My TM1 Auto Ordnance carbine with a 30 rd stick mag is easily 13 lbs. Empty it's a bit lighter.

Added: my semi-auto Thompson is a semi collectible. My designated home defense long gun is usually a 12ga brush gun.

 

[Pulldeaux]

The semi-auto Thompson is heavier than a Garand by an average of two pounds. Due to varying density of wood in Garand stocks, M1 Garands range from 9.5 to 11 pounds, average about 10 lbs. My TM1 Auto Ordnance carbine with a 30 rd stick mag is easily 13 lbs. Empty it's a bit lighter.

Added: my semi-auto Thompson is a semi collectible. My designated home defense long gun is usually a 12ga brush gun.

 

[Pulldeaux]

Wanted a Thompson,got a MecTeck Upper,that you can fit on a Glock ,1911 ,lower,went w/ Glock m21 lower because
Of ets hi-cap mags ,it’s a match grade barrel SS .had it threaded for Silencer Co Hybrid 46 ,Done,it’s fun accurate,loves cast bullets,,telescope stock

 

[Carl N. Brown]

Looking at "The Most Effective Portable Fire Arm in Existence" ad for the Thompson Submachine Gun in Post #78, I note the selling point "1,500 rounds a minute".

That's actually 25 rounds per second. Two seconds for a 50 orund drum. Four seconds for a 100 round drum.

We all remember movies where gangsters fire 1,500 rounds for a minute without stopping to reload. Screenwriters cannot comprehend that X rounds a minute is a "cyclic rate" not a "rate of fire".

 

[KansasTrapper77]

A pistol caliber carbine or a pistol caliber charger (PCC) like the Ruger with a folding brace could be a good alternative, especially with a similarly magazine equipped handgun

100% agree. If someone wants a dedicated self defense carbine I'd 10/10 look into the Ruger PCC. Street price around $600 - $700, light weight yet still low recoil due to some nifty buffer, the charging handle can be switched to either side of the gun, most models on the shelf are takedown models so low profile in and out of the house to the range and 9mm is probably the cheapest centerfire cartridge on the shelf right now. It can use Ruger or Glock mags and of course you can get Glock mags basically as big as you want, easily matching a 30 round AR mag.

If you can't tell I really want one haha but I have several home defense guns to chose from and can't justify to the S.O.

 

[mshootnit]

No. The best thing for home defense is a typical handgun, or a shotgun. Be aware that whatever gun you use is likely to be seized by the police as evidence in case of an actual shooting.

(BTW, we don't discuss SHTF scenarios in this forum.)

Yes, the police will take it, been there. And I agree for tbis reason, Id use an ordinary pump shotgun with a wood stock and maybe a little shorter barrel. Like 18"