Home on the Range:A British Reporter tries to be objective

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Brit goes to an American Range for the first time.Finds it scary and exciting.

Home on the range
Saptarshi Ray
January 31, 2008 6:00 PM

http://commentisfree.guardian.co.uk/saptarshi_ray/2008/01/home_on_the_range.html

It is difficult to spend a single day in America without encountering the subject of guns, the laws that govern them or the people that are so pro or anti their use.

Whether it is a TV report of a shooting or a deconstruction of the second amendment of the US constitution, it is hard to escape the topic. The right to bear arms always struck me as a baseless argument. Despite the fact that shooting is a hobby and that the majority of gun enthusiasts are a law-abiding bunch, the fact that a potentially psychotic person could land their hands on a firearm with relative ease seemed a consequence above and beyond the question of personal choice.

But then I did something stupid. I actually went to a gun range. And I had a good time. This is not a "how I went to America and came to love guns" type proclamation. Instead it is an acknowledgement that the argument is far more complex than I believed.

After some American friends invited me to a gun range - the National Rifle Association one no less - I was excited. Surely I would see some of those nutters. You know, those ones, the ones with hats with flaps and brown teeth and patches saying things like Neighbourhood Militia or something humorous and terrifying in equal measure.

In truth, most of the people there were sober, average-looking, hat-deficient, normal people, and none of them were wiping away drool as they shrieked "from my cold dead hands". I was almost disappointed, almost, until a one-man vigilante death squad turned up in the booth next to ours and made me laugh and cower in unreconstructed horror simultaneously. But more about him later.

The first thing you have to do as a newcomer to the NRA gun range is take a written test, consisting of about 20 multiple choice or true or false answers. I was worried about this, as my sole gun-related experience prior to this was clay pigeon shooting on a stag do in Glasgow - where I was so over-excited I blew both barrels of my shotgun on the very first pigeon. But my anxieties were misplaced, as the answers were on the back of the test - yes, as in you can look at the answers before you tackle the question. And even then, I needn't have worried, as anything you get wrong is simply corrected by one of the range marshals before he hands you your pass. It is fair to say that it is not in the NRA's interest to turn you away from their range.

So once I had "passed" my test, we entered the range itself, which was loud and scary and exhilarating. Armed marshals patrolled the back, with holstered weapons, while everyone just kind of got on with it. The old adage that everyone in London trusts complete strangers with their lives every day as they wait on tube platforms seems ludicrously quaint when you are in a room full of strangers armed to the teeth and firing guns really loudly a few feet away from your face.

In fairness, safety is the main issue you are tasked to remember when you enter the range. As two first-time shooters, my friend Lou and I were in the capable hands of our buddies Scott and Justin - two regulars at the range. Scott, a former navy man and current reservist, was an excellent teacher, instructing us exactly how and where to hold each gun, showing us how to load and telling us how much the gun would kick. Justin meanwhile picked up a 12-gauge Remington shotgun and blew the target next to us to smithereens ... before then becoming an equally excellent instructor with his selection of weapons.

I am still deeply uneasy over the question of gun ownership. I still cannot see how if they all disappeared tomorrow, America would be a worse place. I am very glad we are on the whole an unarmed society in Britain. All I know is that, in reality, Americans are going to want to shoot guns, and the majority of them seem to want to do it in a safe and controlled environment. I have no doubt there are feckless, irresponsible and malicious gun owners out there, but I am glad there are ones like Justin and Scott, and the NRA staff, who were patient and courteous. The organisation could really do with a new figurehead who is more like the marshals or people at the range, than someone who is clearly mad with the crazy like Charlton Heston.

The truth is I can never see myself being pro-guns, but I am enough of a realist to see America is too drenched in the culture to come out of it overnight. I can see that a ban could do more harm than good. Frankly the thought of unregulated, black-market gun shows and ranges - whether they already exist or not - scares me even more.

Anyway, back to the man in the booth next door. Upon entering he set the target thingy to the flip setting (as you can see I really mastered the lingo) and kept muttering things to himself while performing commando rolls, sitting in a lotus position, writhing around like a drowning snake and drawing his gun from his holster and firing in various directions. He then proceeded to do press ups - press ups! - in the booth before holding a bag of sand in one hand and continuing to fire with the other. We nicknamed him "Death Wish". He was weird. He was preparing for something. Whatever it is, I hope it happens at a gun range rather than the street.
 
The truth is I can never see myself being pro-guns, but I am enough of a realist to see America is too drenched in the culture to come out of it overnight.

Would someone tell me, please, why we bothered to save England not once, but twice last century from the Germans? What despicable ingratitude!
 
Would someone tell me, please, why we bothered to save England not once, but twice last century from the Germans? What despicable ingratitude!

Because, in the words of our esteemed Commander-in-Chief, "America has no greater ally than Great Britain". :rolleyes:
 
I am still deeply uneasy over the question of gun ownership. I still cannot see how if they all disappeared tomorrow, America would be a worse place. I am very glad we are on the whole an unarmed society in Britain.

Bleat bleat .... bleat bleat bleat....bleat...bleat bleat bleat....

I am sure your masters are happy Britain is an unarmed society, too!:evil:
 
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I just think it was very fortunate that everyone that day had their guns under superior control. Imagine if a gun would have attacked him, or even just cocked itself in a showing of hostilities. Guns and Pitbulls need to be better regulated.
 
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Gentlemen, please observe the rules of conduct.

There will be no defamatory generalizations nor bigotry.

If your post went missing, it's because it either contained noise & bigotry or referred to a post that did.

That is all.
 
Why is it that every whining liberal who dares to touch a gun describes the experience as scary and exciting? Why can't the experience just be exciting? Or even dull?
 
But my anxieties were misplaced, as the answers were on the back of the test - yes, as in you can look at the answers before you tackle the question. And even then, I needn't have worried, as anything you get wrong is simply corrected by one of the range marshals before he hands you your pass. It is fair to say that it is not in the NRA's interest to turn you away from their range.

Kinda missed the point there. A lot of "tests" are merely to certify that you actually read the material. If you take one of these, you must actively read the material to answer the question.

(The guy in the booth next to us)...kept muttering things to himself while performing commando rolls, sitting in a lotus position, writhing around like a drowning snake and drawing his gun from his holster and firing in various directions. He then proceeded to do press ups - press ups! - in the booth before holding a bag of sand in one hand and continuing to fire with the other. We nicknamed him "Death Wish". He was weird. He was preparing for something. Whatever it is, I hope it happens at a gun range rather than the street.

Missed the point again. First of all, I (among others of high intelligence :rolleyes: :biggrin: :rolleyes: ) frequently talk to myself. But beyond that, the gentleman was just getting his heart and some other autonomic fuctions pumped up, knowing that in a real defense situation, he will not be calmly punching holes in paper from a classic stance, but will in fact be soaked with adrenalin, and perhaps even having to defend himself with a firearm from varied positions, etc.

I myself will run in place and try to get out of breath when practicing, for exactly this reason, when I am alone at a range.

And "He was preparing for something..."

I certainly hope so, and I hope that if the "something" happens that he was practising for, it will not occur at the range.

And the "various directions", I am sure, merely meant that, while all his rounds were appropriately directed downrange, he was doing it across his body and from different positions --again, as opposed to a classic target stance.

Remember, in a crisis situation, a person will default to whatever s/he has trained himself/herself to do.

This gentleman was certainly not training himself to be a compliant victim.
 
Fly 320s: Because that won't sell papers. Its like a train wreck covered with forbidden fruit. Kinda sorta the same thing with us and American Idol, I think.

Still; consider the source. The Guardian is Britain's socialist rag. Who'd have figured they'd be all for sheepitude? Be entertained and learn from their mistakes.
 
"performing commando rolls, sitting in a lotus position, writhing around like a drowning snake and drawing his gun from his holster and firing in various directions."

HUH???
I use that range two or three times a month. Commando rolls? Firing in various directions?
Just not gonna happen there! Heck, they won't even let you point-shoot. All shots must be sight-aimed. As he said, safety is everything there.
Oh, and Charlton Heston is mad crazy? Does this fella somehow confuse an actor's roles with his real persona?

Oh, well.

craig
 
:eek: Perhaps this daring young lad will feel more favorably disposed to us feckless mad one's after making the aquaintence of his country's skyrocketing Wahabbist population! :uhoh:
 
There are SO many things I could say about this, but 98.27% of them would be rather Low Road.

So I will leave it at this:

My policy is that I don't criticize other countries for their gun laws, and they don't criticize mine. I respect sovereignty in that regard.

However, this reporter HAS decided to write a piece on our society. I can accept that he holds his opinion, but I resent his attempt at wit in describing what he expected out of gun owners.

ArfinGreebly, I'll respect the rules, but I do want to point out that this article oozes "noise & bigotry" towards us.

And at the same time, commenting on it here is a pointless gesture. I seriously doubt this twit reads THR.


-- John
 
Ok folks, I know this is not quite the same but work with me....
15 yrs or so, back when I lived in Memphis and shot regularly in uspsa at an indoor range in Millington... just about any time "the bunny bit the wolf" and a citizen would sucessfully defeat some lowlife scum, one or another of the local TV stations would send out a video crew to film our usual Thursday night shoots. We got used to them after a while. For quite a while, it seemed that the bias of their report was that we were blood-thirsty gunslinging nasties. One night when they came out, before everyone showed up, I asked the newsbabe if she'd like to try shooting. She finally agreed to try it, so I went and borrowed a 9mm from the guncase, and the owner threw in a box of 50 reloads. Another shooter and I got her fixed up with earplugs and muffs and took her into the lanes. We hung up a target (not human shaped), taught her how to hold the pistol and dry-fire it; then we put one round in a mag and had her cycle the action, and shoot the one round. She did. She hit the 9 or 10 ring. That brought the cameraman in. We shooed him out and asked that he not film her. He agreed. She shot the rest of that box and enjoyed herself immensely. Also, she shot very well. The tone of that night's on-air report was waay more positive than it had ever been before. We invited her to come back again and shoot with us in a match. She did once, but without the film crew. But all the future reports were quite positive. It was a neat thing. I wish I knew if she was still with that station.
 
32winspl,

Nice ACTIVISM.

My wheels are turning... Range Day for The Media.... hmmm.....

If it changes ONE mind, it would be worth it-- and probably be far more effective than massively expensive PR campaigns.

-- John
 
Must ... remain ... High Road ...

This is what I think of his "objectivity."

JWarren said:
However, this reporter HAS decided to write a piece on our society. I can accept that he holds his opinion, but I resent his attempt at wit in describing what he expected out of gun owners.

ArfinGreebly, I'll respect the rules, but I do want to point out that this article oozes "noise & bigotry" towards us.
Agreed.
 
Feudalistic mindset ingrained

Ref the Beeb article on Bisley (thanks, woodybrighton):

Colin Cheshire is a former captain of the Great Britain shooting team, and a secretary of the NRA. He has been coming to Bisley for 49 years, continuing even since his retirement and relocation to Cyprus.

Private schools have a big input into shooting, but Mr Cheshire emphasises the classlessness of Bisley. "You can have everyone from a peer of the realm to a local butcher," he says.

How veddy veddy "nasal dischargey."

Ahfta awl, whatevah could be lauwer in our grahnd society than a mere butcher, eh wot?

To me, this is exemplary of the ingrained and completely unconcious attitude of class distinctions inherent in the British mindset. There's royalty, peers, commonors, and butchers. And don't you forget it. And for the commoners to bear arms in their own service (as opposed to the Queen's Service) is nearly unthinkable.

But the article was, compared to what I've heard about the Britsh attitude toward firearms, relatively benign.

The comment section was very interesting. Here's what I learned: "the Beeb" is apparently a nickname for the BBC -a nice fact to know. I also learned that many of the commenters have only a slight grasp of reality --at least from what I've heard about violence on the streets in GB, and which was inferred by a number of the other contributors.

Cheers.

--Terry
 
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OOOH, that bleeps me off!

Smarmy condescencion, wrapped in false tolerance!

~~We should give the unevolved Americans time to grow out of their juvenile ways, rather than provoke a reaction by trying to take their toys away~~


Actual experience with gunowners changed that writer's beliefs from the extreme bigotry to soft bigotry, and we're supposed to congratulate him on his progressive thinking openness?

I think not. :scrutiny:


I'm certain some people would claim that we should be grateful for whatever steps towards the light a gun bigot would be willing to take, but I stop to think..."what if the issue were racism, rather than gun ownership? What if the writer's position changed from 'Members of race XYZ are universally ignorant, violent and scary' to 'Members of race XYZ are misguided children in need of moral development'?

Would we be ok with that?

Hell no.
 
Well, it's a start. Agreeing or not over gun rights, we can certainly agree that it usually takes a fair amount of time to overcome what your culture's been telling you about right and wrong. One piece has been put into place, and who knows what will get built on it? Maybe he'll mention to friends (as he did in this article) that guns aren't the most awful thing ever. Maybe he'll (and I hope not) be a victim of a crime and see how a gun could have been used to protect him. Maybe he'll just decide that it's actually kind of fun and can be used as a martial art for discipline and tactics.

Let's not come down too hard on this guy: he's made the first step and seems to be operating in good faith.

That said, don't forget to take your anti-gun friends to the range with you. A lot of folks are anti-gun because they're ignorant and scared of guns; girls especially (hint, hint) seem to really like blasting a target.
 
At the very least, he acknowledged that his easy answer to the "gun issue" wasn't all that easy, after all.

But...

Anyway, back to the man in the booth next door. Upon entering he set the target thingy to the flip setting (as you can see I really mastered the lingo) and kept muttering things to himself while performing commando rolls, sitting in a lotus position, writhing around like a drowning snake and drawing his gun from his holster and firing in various directions. He then proceeded to do press ups - press ups! - in the booth before holding a bag of sand in one hand and continuing to fire with the other. We nicknamed him "Death Wish". He was weird. He was preparing for something. Whatever it is, I hope it happens at a gun range rather than the street.


I call shenanigans. This doesn't sound even remotely possible without getting yoked by the range officers and given the bum's rush. Maybe on your own range.
 
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"Shooting in the lotus position..." Could he mean cross-legged sitting? That's a common high power position. If he was shooting in the prone, he would have done a "press up" to get up from it. The author was clearly ignorant and wished to paint anyone training beyond simply firing from a benchrest as a pyschopath.
 
Frankly the thought of unregulated, black-market gun shows and ranges - whether they already exist or not - scares me even more.

And there's the T shirt. Remember Prohibition? That one worked out really well.....
 
You know, those ones, the ones with hats with flaps and brown teeth and patches saying things like Neighbourhood Militia or something humorous and terrifying in equal measure.

OK...A British guy commenting on people with bad teeth. Now that's funny!

I was worried about this, as my sole gun-related experience prior to this was clay pigeon shooting on a stag do in Glasgow - where I was so over-excited I blew both barrels of my shotgun on the very first pigeon.

I can't help but wonder if this story is just a metaphor for some of his other life experiences.

I am very glad we are on the whole an unarmed society in Britain.

Just a slight correction: "I am very glad on the whole the law-abiding are an unarmed society in Britain." There...that's better.

Frankly the thought of unregulated, black-market gun shows and ranges - whether they already exist or not - scares me even more.

Is that because he's seen, first hand, how ineffective bans are?

And I know someone else mentioned it, but aren't we on the 3rd NRA president since CH?
 
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