Hoosier Deer Rifle

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What to get?

1. A rifled shotgun. Can be rebarreled for other applications. Pump or semi-auto. Modern firearms season only.

2. Lever gun. Handy and lightweight. Modern firearms season only. Not as versatile.

3. Muzzleloader. Can be used in muzzleloader and modern firearms deer season. Can be (or barrel swapped to) a smoothbore for turkey or other game.
 
A dedicated slug gun is hard to beat in terms of power out to 150 or so yards. Great strides have been made in the accuracy of slugs and slug guns, though the premium ammo is very expensive. Then there is the recoil factor.

A pistol cal carbine with the right ammo will give 100 or so yards, it recoils less, and the ammo is cheaper (more practice, more fun). Ruger is once again offering their model 77 in .44 mag if you're not a levergun fan. New Marlin 1894s in .44 mags seem to be sold out everywhere. I used to have a rossi, but the crescent butt stock they insist on keeping on all their '92s makes shooting with full power loads unpleasant, IMO.
 
Ruger No.1 - .475 Linebaugh is a legal pistol cartridge. Jeff Quin chronographed some of his hand loads producing 2,600 foot pounds of energy here:

http://www.gunblast.com/Ruger-No1-475L.htm

That gun doesn't give up much to a shotgun slug, probably has a bit less recoil, and could certainly be made to group tighter with the correct hand load. (Quin posted a 9/16" group at 100yds).

I'm in a similar boat you are (Hoosier looking for a deer rifle), and I've been looking long and hard at the Ruger No.1, as well as the various pistol caliber lever guns... The Taylor arms Winchester 92 clone in 38-40 is also catching my eye, as I could use the same bullets I already load for my 10mm, and its a take-down model (other calibers available as well.)
 
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took this from the Indiana DNR web sit.

Rifles with cartridges that fire a bullet
of .357-inch diameter or larger; have a
minimum case length of 1.16 inches; and
have a maximum case length of 1.625 inches
are legal to use only during the deer firearm
season. Some cartridges legal for deer
hunting include the .357 Magnum, .38-.40
Winchester, .41 Magnum, .41 Special, .44
Magnum, .44 Special, .44-.40 Winchester,
.45 Colt, .454 Casull, .458 SOCOM, .475
Linebaugh, .480 Ruger, .50 Action Express,
and .500 S&W.
 
454 lever gun sounds like an awsome setup, you will have deer thumping power all the way out to 150-200 yards, just don't hit the shoulder at close range because there won't be much left :) Think of it as a 45-70 with hollow points :evil:
 
cool guns.

I shot one of those savage model 10 slug bolt guns a while back and it felt right. Know absolutly nothing about slug's and slug guns I can only say that this puppy was super accurate. I'm thinking of getting one to use as a dedicated elk rifle.

http://www.savagearms.com/firearms/models/

This guy can turn a marlin 1894 into a 475 linbough, 50 ae or 440 corbon, this might be common knowledge to some but it's pretty cool to me. :D

http://www.levergun.com/main_index.htm
 
As much as I have loved the falling block No. 1, the price and the uncertain future of the round (I reload, but any more, would rather spend time doing most anything else) plus the price, means I will continue to drool from a safe distance.

The M77/44 can be had at a couple of local shops for a little over $600 out the door.

Surprised to see no love for muzzleloader. Used one in Indiana 20 years ago, before rifled slug guns or pistol cartridge rifles.

For the price and utility, looks like a slug gun is the way to go.

Thanks all.
 
My choice was to build a .358 WSSM (.25 WSSM parent case) on a Savage Model 11 FNCS. Dies are "off the shelf" custom dies from Redding. Chamber reamer came from Dave Manson, and is the "Redding Spec" design.

I can exceed Winchester's factory 200gr loads for .358 Win ballistics, and I'm exceeding .35 Rem ballistics by ~300 fps using 180gr, 200gr and 225gr bullets. Basically this is a 250yard North American game gun, and potentially 300 yards for whitetail. 225gr SGK @ 2350fps, 200gr Hornady Interlock SP @ 2550fps. I can easily download to .35 Rem specs but I give up trajectory.

The cheap route to a 200 yard Indiana Deer Rifle is to ream out a 24" .357 Mag H&R single shot to .357 Max. People are matching .35 Rem ballistics (~2200-2300fps with 180 bullets) with A1680 powder.

Other wildcats include .358 Gremlin (6.5 Grendel necked up) .358 GNR, .358 Grant (the max you can get under current laws).

The .458 SOCOM will get the job done out to 200 yards, but with an upper costing up near a grand, I saved money.

I contemplated a .454 Puma 92 (since I've been hunting for several years with a 9.5" SRH .454) and a .45 Colt H&R single shot, but a friend of mine is a big time hunter and wanted a 300 yard deer gun, and .358 WSSM was the easiest way to get there... and he paid for the tooling (reamer and gauges).

Many of the 50 cal muzzleloaders with .45 cal sabots, and many of the new 50 cal bullets will get you out to 200 yards, and you can double the length of your season, and stay under $400 -- this is the route I would go for the least money. I hunted once with an Rem 1100 and immediately went back to my .454 revolver -- same range, much better accuracy, much cheaper ammunition.

My rifle cost me $450 w/shipping and FFL transfer and the barrel was <$300 installed.

To see how accurate this rifle is look at the groups my buddy shot here (scroll to near the bottom). http://www.mcgowenbarrel.com/testimonials.htm
 
buy a mossberg 500 from a gun store, cheap and you get a slug barrel and a shot barrel, my son in law has been using it the last couple of years and is very happy with the combination for differant game
 
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