Hornady LNL/Projector Shell Plates

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I post this to hopefully help folks with LNL's or who are considering LNL's with what shell plates are out there and what they need. I wish it had been clearer when I was making the decision to buy a wire eject LNL or wait and get the EZ-Ject. I have attached pics that hopefully detail what I will describe below.


Many years ago I bought a Hornady projector. It came with what I call a Generation I Shell Plate. It indexed poorly to say the least. The biggest factor, IMO, was the use of one tiny ball detent. (My frustration with that, and the resulting damage, has been posted here)

Hornady soon came out with an improved design which I call the Generation II Shell Plate. It was no longer blue steel and had two larger ball detents. I soon replaced all my Generation I plates (except .38 Spl which worked like a champ) with Generation II plates. That cured most of the problems. Some deburring & polishing fixed the rest of the problems. Even my 9MM plate worked like a champ on my Projector. (My 9mm shell plate solutions have been posted as well)

The mouth to the Generation II plates has a "point" on them. (It was later rounded off in the Generation III Shell Plates) This is not a big issue with the Projector because the ejector piece on the Projector rotates and moves as the brass is pushed out of the shell plate.

Then came along the LNL and the wire eject system. The wire is stationary and will not work with the Generation II Shell Plates with the "point" in the mouth where the brass goes. (These Generation II shell plates come in boxes marked "LNL/Projector", but they will not work on the LNL)

Hornady soon came out, or possibly at the same time, with what I call the Generation III Shell Plate. It eliminated the "point" in the mouth where the case goes and the entrance is nice and rounded. That, and some deburring & polishing, pretty much fixed that problem, 99% anyway.

Then Hornady came out with the EZ-Ject system, requiring what I call the Generation IV Shell Plate. It seems identical to the Generation III Shell Plate except that it has a groove machined underneath for the EZ-Ject "ejector".

So, now I have 4 generations of shell plates and am at least a little irritated with Hornady they way they keep making changes. The good news is if you call Hornady they will help you out to some extent, and the changes are improvements.

I bought a non EZ-Ject because I did not want to have to mod my 12 or so shell plates, but it turns out I had to anyway.

I have modded some of my Generation II plates to match the Generation III plates with the rounded contour. I have also sent some of my plates to Hornady and they have machined them to work on the EZ-Ject. I will send the rest one of these days. I decided to order the EZ-Ject conversion sub plate because even with the mods the LNL does not eject as well as my old Projector when using Generation II and even Generation III plates, plus that will get that wire out of the way. Not fiddling with it switching shell plates will be a good thing.

I sure hope the EZ-Ject works well. I have not seen any fussing about it here, but nobody raving about it either. :)

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I run all of my LNL plates in a buffer wheel to polish the edges. New #45 plate seems to work better than the one that is for 3006, 308, 45 when loading 45acp.

Did you replace the ram base plate for the EZject?
 
I have a LNL AP with the wire system and all of my rounds eject flawlessly 100% of the time.
That includes the 9mm. The #1 shellplate also works perfectly with 45ACP.
There is no reason to covert to the ezject system...at least for me.
 
Interesting info Walkalong. The generations of shell plates that Hornady has had are quite interesting to say the least.

I have all gen 3 plates except for one gen 2 plate. I notice that the gen 2 plates don't have the bevel under the edge of the plate for the spring wire retainer to ride along.
 
I have the LnL AP.I'm using the #1 shell plate for .45ACP with poor results.
It wont eject the finished round 50% of the time.I have a "raised" piece of metal
that supposed to guide the round out....but some times it catches.
After reading the Cabela's web site it says that their is a shell plate exclusively for
the .45 ACP.....well when I ordered it it said that #1 was for .45ACP!!!
So now I have ordered #45 and guess what...back ordered!

I can see a way to buff and deburr but want to wait till the #45 comes....
Being new to this I don't need to go grinding on a 400.00 piece of equipment.
 
That was a good link...that is the issues Im having.Im hopeing that
the #45 helps.If not I would think that dremling out the spring releaf
would alow the round to eject....:banghead:
 
I have the LnL AP.I'm using the #1 shell plate for .45ACP with poor results.
It wont eject the finished round 50% of the time

Update:

I finally tried my #1 Shell Plate (that was converted to the EZ-Ject system) the other day helping a range buddy load his .45. I set it up and he loaded them. He is comfortable with rifle, but not with pistol, and he only has a single stage. After this experience I have decided to not let him use my machine anymore. (Don't ask)

Anyway, the #1 Shell Plate did not work well at all. It would hang up ejecting much of the time. If he went real slow (and quit trying to force it :banghead:) it would do OK. This is the same plate that worked 100% on my Projector with .45 ACP.

I wish I had tried the #1 shell Plate on the wire eject system, but I never did, so I don't know how it would work with it.

I ordered a #45 plate and it came today. It is machined exceptionally well with no burrs etc. I gave it a try and it ejects smooth as butter 100% of the time. I marked the #1 Plate .308 and this one .45 ACP. I am really pleased with how well it does.
 

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45 acp USED to be able to be loaded on older #1 plate but it didnt work very well so Hornady make a 45 specific plate and is #45. They dont recommend using a no1 with 45 acp at all. I have flawless operation with my LNL Ap including full progression loading of 45 ACP
 
Yep.

Some folks have reported the old #1 Shell Plate working OK on the LNL with .45 ACP, but most have reported having to go to the new #45 on the LNL. The old Projector used an ejector that worked on top of the shell plate as does the wire eject, except that it rotated as well, and the wire is stationary. It worked 100% with .45 ACP in the #1 Shell Plate. They actually tightened up the tolerances in the new plate. .308/.30-06 won't go in. I have yet to try the #1 with .308 on the LNL.
 
Same here. My LNL wire worked well with the #1. After the EZ-ject conversion, I only use the #45 plate as the #1 doesn't work.
 
My Projector has been relegated to depriming. Served me well for a number of years, though.
 
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