How do you feel the majority of criminals obtains firearms?

[wbond]

On the used gun market

from private owners.

They used to get them from gun shows, but I think that has been curbed.

I once sold a nice auto shotgun to a friend who later developed a drug habit. Uh oh. You can see what's coming. Yep. He committed crimes with my former gun. Specifically, he robbed a drug dealer. I don't know what else he did. I stopped associating with him once I realized what he was doing. I had no receipt to prove I'd sold it to him. I was waiting for the coppers, but they never showed up.

He ended up in jail and I don't know what happened to the shotgun. I guess whatever happens to evidence.

Ironically, I'd bought it from another friend who'd bought it from a CA State patrolman. I don't think any of us had any receipts to cover our bottoms. As far as I know, the state patrolman was the last owner of record, if there were any records in those days.

Then of course there are all the stolen guns too. That's a good argument for gun safes.

 

[PlayboyPenguin]

Thanks for the info Carl. I lost track of this thread completely. I must admit that some of my own gun-control opinions have altered since this thread was started. I love it when someone "liberal credentials" are challenged because they decide to have an open mind and look at both sides of an issue. I thought that was what being a liberal was all about. I think leftis are so eager to keep this name for themselves and righties are anxious to make others think that liberals are leftists. I think my main point thoughout is that responsible gun owners should do whatever they can (within reason) to keep their firearms safe from theft. If you can afford a gunsafe buy one, if not do the best you can.

 

[Carl N. Brown]

wbond They used to get them from gun shows, but I think that has been curbed.

BATFs own traces showed gun shows as a source for no more than
1 or 2 percent of crime guns over the past fifteen years. The "gun
show loophole" is more rhetoric than fact.

PlayboyPenguin responsible gun owners should do whatever
they can (within reason) to keep their firearms safe from theft

If I have a gun ready for defense it will be loaded and under my control;
if not under my control it may be under lock and key, disassembled with
key parts where a snatch-and-grab burglar will not have time to find,
or under other security arrangements I will not describe in an open
forum for . . . . well, security.

I agree with the principle that responsible gun owners should do
what they can within reason to keep their firearms safe from theft.

 

[nucstl1]

Drug Trafficking is Punishable by Death

Thats what it says on the declaration form when entering Singapore...and they mean it. I go there about five times a year for work and, I am nervous everytime I go through customs. Not because I am carrying drugs...but because I know they don't screw around. I went through last December from Amsterdam, and saw some guy get picked out of the line. He probably didn't do anything as they do random searches, but the look on his face was..." "...the look on my face was more like "glad that isn't me". I pretty sure that if we started executing traffickers and the folks that launder the money.....the drug problem would diminish....Same note of the average street thug. If crime doesn't pay maybe they won't choose that path at the 8th grade career day. Sinagpore and Japan are two of the safest places I have travelled...and its because the don't screw around with criminals. Same with Thailand.

 

[f4t9r]

straw purchase and stealing !!!

 

[j grimes]

ONE WORD (MONEY) WITH ENOUGH ,YOU CAN BUY LOTS OF THINGS!