How Do You "One Kind Of Each" Guys Do It?
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Ragnar Danneskjold
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I prevent becoming a collector by having other interests. Shooting is a hobby. But so is martial arts, and video games, and computers, and drumming, and having a girlfriend (that alone would suck up the $150,000), and soon to be motorcycles. And cigars. mmmmmm cigars.
First off don't be so sensitive. I don't think your "views" are nonsense, just that particular one.
And I explained why in depth. It simply isn't valid as you present it.
As for stocks and gold.
I paid $350 each for my HK91 and HK93 back in 1983. Today they are worth about $2,100 and 2,800. Gold has never done that. And when people lost their butts in the stock market, my guns were always safe and sound worth more than I paid for them.
But none of that matters because I didn't buy them as "investements."
I have money for the important things. Paying the bills, food and necessities. Beyond that money is for making my me and the people I care about "happy."
And guns make my happy.
I also collect Japanese swords. They are really expensive, and serve no practical value that you would likely comprehend.
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Where are the pics of those?
Me likey... how do you get one of these? Dealer sample?
collateral
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the OP just convinced me to buy another rifle this week.
nwilliams
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Lets see.....
What's that word I'm looking for? Oh yeah money!
I have about 25 guns in my collection as it stands and only a few doubles....Two AK's, two SKS's, two BHP's. Will I have more multiples as the years go by? Probably but for now I want a variety of differen't guns so I can get a well round collection. I certainly want more EBR's before the next election rolls around so maybe a few more AK variants will be added to the collection over the next year.
My budget allows me to buy three or four new guns every year, and maybe one or two can be over $600 and VERY rarely will I spend more than $1K on any gun. That's pretty good for me considering I don't make a lot of money and I still have lots of bills to pay. Of course I'm not married, don't have kids, I rent and I drive a 10 year old car.
What's that word I'm looking for? Oh yeah money!
I have about 25 guns in my collection as it stands and only a few doubles....Two AK's, two SKS's, two BHP's. Will I have more multiples as the years go by? Probably but for now I want a variety of differen't guns so I can get a well round collection. I certainly want more EBR's before the next election rolls around so maybe a few more AK variants will be added to the collection over the next year.
My budget allows me to buy three or four new guns every year, and maybe one or two can be over $600 and VERY rarely will I spend more than $1K on any gun. That's pretty good for me considering I don't make a lot of money and I still have lots of bills to pay. Of course I'm not married, don't have kids, I rent and I drive a 10 year old car.
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Me, I have one each of the five probably most popular firearms for hunting. None of them are high end guns but they are all quality and highly usable.
All use different ammunition because I use them for different types of hunting.
All use different ammunition because I use them for different types of hunting.
waterhouse
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While I understand what you are saying, and while you may say that the reason is nonsense, that was my reasoning from going from "collector" to "shooter". While nothing close to the ballpark you play in, I used to have about 15 ARs, 5 HKs (but only if you include Greek "clones" and PRT-91 clones), a couple FALs, 20+ shotguns, and a whole slew of bolt and lever guns in various calibers (and that's just the long guns.)
I thought each of these guns had a specific purpose when I bought them. The ARs had different barrel lengths and different optics, the shotguns had different lengths and weights, etc.
At some point I sat down with pen and paper and started figuring that
a) I bought them to shoot
b) I wasn't shooting all of them enough
c) I couldn't even remember what range most were sighted in at
d) many of them served no "shooting" purpose that wasn't covered by another one. Sure, they were different, but not in ways that actually mattered to me for shooting.
In your mind if I can get a good sight picture and a good squeeze I can hit the 9 ring all day long. That might be true, but only if I know what the gun is sighted in for and what the bullet is doing ballistically out of a certain barrel length.
So a while back I started selling off parts of the collection. I'm down to 1 ptr-91. 1 FAL. I'm working on getting it down to 3 ARs.
I don't feel as though I've lost any versatility in the collection. Shooting wise, I can still do the same things. In fact, I can do the same things, but quieter, since I took a lot of the money that suddenly appeared and put it towards suppressors.
I think that is the answer to your question. You can shoot, and you have your guns that you shoot often, but you also like having special variations in the safe that hold some value other than their shooting capabilities.
Some of us only care about the shooting. That's OK, nothing wrong with differing viewpoints.
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How do you do it?
For me it has three sides: a practical side, an aesthetics side and a moral side.
Practical: I don't currently hunt and I don't live in a dangerous neighborhood. Hence, my .357 suffices for 99% of anything I need a gun for: concealed carry and home defense. Also, my shooting skills are nowhere near high enough to outshoot the capabilities of my revolver... so until they are I see no purpose in buying another handgun. I'd like an M1A for that other 1%, but that can wait.
Aesthetic: I grew up on fantasy stories, and in these stories the hero is always identified with one weapon - HIS weapon. Sword, spear, axe, whatever... the weapons in these stories always have "well-worn grips" and blades that are "battered and scarred, but sharp and well-cared for" etc. They all show signs of competent and hard use, and the point is that the hero needs NO other. There is an Renaissance-style dagger in a Copenhagen museum (I think) which actually started life as a Viking long sword; it was polished, sharpened, re-ground and re-hilted, treasured and passed down through 600 years before ending up in a museum. This is the kind of aesthetic which appeals to me, and when I became interested in modern weapons it naturally carried over.
Moral: According to my upbringing, I am merely a custodian of my worldly wealth, not the ultimate owner. Therefore spending excessive amounts of wealth on leisure items is not morally acceptable when children go hungry all over the world. The collecting mentality is also a bit alien to me, as the utility gained from any sort of collection is merely pride of ownership, which I find to be a hollow and fleeting form of satisfaction (i.e. there is always something else to buy).
Sorry for the long answer, but I've thought about this a lot!
For me it has three sides: a practical side, an aesthetics side and a moral side.
Practical: I don't currently hunt and I don't live in a dangerous neighborhood. Hence, my .357 suffices for 99% of anything I need a gun for: concealed carry and home defense. Also, my shooting skills are nowhere near high enough to outshoot the capabilities of my revolver... so until they are I see no purpose in buying another handgun. I'd like an M1A for that other 1%, but that can wait.
Aesthetic: I grew up on fantasy stories, and in these stories the hero is always identified with one weapon - HIS weapon. Sword, spear, axe, whatever... the weapons in these stories always have "well-worn grips" and blades that are "battered and scarred, but sharp and well-cared for" etc. They all show signs of competent and hard use, and the point is that the hero needs NO other. There is an Renaissance-style dagger in a Copenhagen museum (I think) which actually started life as a Viking long sword; it was polished, sharpened, re-ground and re-hilted, treasured and passed down through 600 years before ending up in a museum. This is the kind of aesthetic which appeals to me, and when I became interested in modern weapons it naturally carried over.
Moral: According to my upbringing, I am merely a custodian of my worldly wealth, not the ultimate owner. Therefore spending excessive amounts of wealth on leisure items is not morally acceptable when children go hungry all over the world. The collecting mentality is also a bit alien to me, as the utility gained from any sort of collection is merely pride of ownership, which I find to be a hollow and fleeting form of satisfaction (i.e. there is always something else to buy).
Sorry for the long answer, but I've thought about this a lot!
I have now, thanks to the link you posted further down in the thread. Having seen the pics, I'm still ambivalent about the purpose of these threads. They scream Ltnieto2004 said:
K at me! I have no problem with anyone amassing this kind of collection. We all have our interests and priorities. But a prudent person, and certainly a humble one, would likely keep the details of such a collection to themselves, or to those whom they trust. I just cannot help see in this a certain kind of immodesty along the lines of conspicuous consumption. This is just a variation on the sig lines where members list all the guns they own. Like who cares?I also have the collector's defective gene, but my financial and economics discipline is not as good as yours, SteyrAUG!
I intended, some time ago, to start a Nihonto collection. I failed miserably because I started spending money on guns (and I just own 3). How about you start throwing in some pictures of tanto, shoto, daito, tachi, etc?
I intended, some time ago, to start a Nihonto collection. I failed miserably because I started spending money on guns (and I just own 3). How about you start throwing in some pictures of tanto, shoto, daito, tachi, etc?
ny32182
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How do I keep from spending $300,000 on guns?
I'll tell you how... I don't have $300,000 to spend on guns. Works out nicely.
I'll tell you how... I don't have $300,000 to spend on guns. Works out nicely.
LiquidTension
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My collection is pretty nice for someone my age (27), but nowhere near SteyrAUG's. If you want duplicates or different variants of the same thing, so be it. I can't afford it. I have filled all of the major holes in what I consider to be a good collection, so I've stopped buying guns. Now I'm spending money to get good with them (ammo) and make them quieter (suppressors).
It's a hobby. To each their own. Nice Shrike, by the way.
It's a hobby. To each their own. Nice Shrike, by the way.
Hokkmike
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I only want to won guns that will see regular use. I try to buy the best of each that I will use; rifle, shot gun, handgun - ! I am not wealthy enough to consider guns as collectables!
Well anyone who knows me from arfcom knows I'm certainly not above a "look at me" post. I have a very healthy "Gee Kyle, you don't seem to have a MegaMan" Cartman gene.
And while I do enjoy yanking internet chains now and again, it isn't anything done in a serious manner. I'm mostly just having fun.
And I know I own some unique firearms that most people aren't even aware of and in many cases I'm simply sharing. I'm the same way at the range. If I'm there with my Class IIIs and exotics, I will let somebody get some trigger time.
I grew up around some serious shooters. And when I was a kid they always let me shoot their Thompsons and M3s. They weren't trying to show off when they brought out thier MP40s and stuff like that. They were just sharing them, and I'm glad they did.
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Maybe when I'm rich, I'll think of all kinds of uses for new guns that don't occur to me at this time.
First of all, I will NEVER tell another man how much is too much of anything.
But when I have been asked, but antis or curious people, how many guns is too many, I tell them; "I really don't want more guns than I have time and money to practice with regularly." If I have an ugly duckling in the corner of the safe that I realize I haven't fired in about five years, I'm probably not going to keep it. I really can't justify (especially to my wife) a lot of duplicates. I think if you own a gun, but you don't practice with it regularly, you aren't being responsible. I'm a soldier/student with a family, I have to keep us in diapers and milk before I can worry about bulk buys of ammo to have 'just because'.
Like I say, maybe when I'm done with law school and established, I'll find myself with more time and money.
First of all, I will NEVER tell another man how much is too much of anything.
But when I have been asked, but antis or curious people, how many guns is too many, I tell them; "I really don't want more guns than I have time and money to practice with regularly." If I have an ugly duckling in the corner of the safe that I realize I haven't fired in about five years, I'm probably not going to keep it. I really can't justify (especially to my wife) a lot of duplicates. I think if you own a gun, but you don't practice with it regularly, you aren't being responsible. I'm a soldier/student with a family, I have to keep us in diapers and milk before I can worry about bulk buys of ammo to have 'just because'.
Like I say, maybe when I'm done with law school and established, I'll find myself with more time and money.
boredelmo
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Well there really is just a simple answer to this whole thread:
You're a collector, not everyone is. Most would like to be, but are limited by financial and maybe time constraints. Simple as that.
I don't think any member on this board would refuse to have a collection such as yours, but people just have different priorities.
I know a girl that owns about 80 pairs of jeans each worth $300+. Sure i'd like to have nice jeans, but some i don't need all that and I'm not so interested to make that investment. And then you get to the people who just have jeans because its impolite to walk around in public nude.
Different levels or commitment to different things. It's not really a hard question and in essence not a real question at all. Any hobbyist would wonder why everyone was not as involved as they are.
You have a sickness, and a enough money to feed it : )
You're a collector, not everyone is. Most would like to be, but are limited by financial and maybe time constraints. Simple as that.
I don't think any member on this board would refuse to have a collection such as yours, but people just have different priorities.
I know a girl that owns about 80 pairs of jeans each worth $300+. Sure i'd like to have nice jeans, but some i don't need all that and I'm not so interested to make that investment. And then you get to the people who just have jeans because its impolite to walk around in public nude.
Different levels or commitment to different things. It's not really a hard question and in essence not a real question at all. Any hobbyist would wonder why everyone was not as involved as they are.
You have a sickness, and a enough money to feed it : )
BridgeWalker
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How?
Well, I have a life. It involves an 18 month old girl. And a dozen hobbies, a couple of which are guns and shooting (the others include fun and diverse things like backpacking and knitting). And an expensive embarkation on a second career when the first one got boring.
I dunno. I guess I do it by being, um, not you.
But hey, you'll make some auction house really happy when you die. I guess that's a neat legacy.
You just found her. Well, if someone handed me that collection I'd take it, but only so I could sell it and buy *one* Kreighoff and some land. Owning that kind of collection would drive me nuts, and I simply wouldn't have time to maintain it and to become and stay familiar with it.
Well, I have a life. It involves an 18 month old girl. And a dozen hobbies, a couple of which are guns and shooting (the others include fun and diverse things like backpacking and knitting). And an expensive embarkation on a second career when the first one got boring.
I dunno. I guess I do it by being, um, not you.
But hey, you'll make some auction house really happy when you die. I guess that's a neat legacy.
You just found her. Well, if someone handed me that collection I'd take it, but only so I could sell it and buy *one* Kreighoff and some land. Owning that kind of collection would drive me nuts, and I simply wouldn't have time to maintain it and to become and stay familiar with it.
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