How do YOU sell a handgun privately??

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Washington state private FTF is cash and carry too. I noted my "requirements" only for personal peace of mind reasons.

Our legislators are trying to gut part of this law right now by requiring NICS checks for private FTF sales at gun shows. It's an unnecessary change in the law, and hopefully our legislators will understand and act accordingly.
 
Texas

When selling:
It the firearm is not traceable to me, I don't want to know his name. It would be nice to know they are a resident and not a felon, but since none have looked suspicious I have never ID'd them.
If the firearm is in my name and not the type a firearm to be used in a crime, i.e. single shot, bolt action, I don't worry about it. Otherwise I want a Texas drivers license number. If they have a CHL I don't need any number as I know he's clean.

When buying:
If they ask for ID, I flash my CHL for a second, not long enough to write anything down. Usually that's enough. I have asked for a reciept, but decided afterwards that it was worthless without seeing their ID.


Our rulers understand that a large percentage of firearms (most) have more than one owner in their lifetime. The idea of requiring serial numbers on firearms is a direct infringement on the second ammendment.

I also have owned older firearms without serial numbers. When buying or selling them it's no sweat, no reciept needed.
 
Our legislators are trying to gut part of this law right now by requiring NICS checks for private FTF sales at gun shows. It's an unnecessary change in the law, and hopefully our legislators will understand and act accordingly.
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Ginny Burdick got tired of getting shut down in Oregon so now she's trying to screw over WA. :fire:
If she had her way, people with magazines over 10 rounds would be facing a $250,000 fine and 10 years PER magazine.
 
I've used this form before. I print two copies, one to put in the safe to prove I no longer own it, and one for the buyer to prove that he does own it. We both signed both copies in a face-to-face transaction. I'm no lawyer, but this just strikes me as just good horse-sense.
 

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But make sure you put the bills of sale in a safe with like a magnezium sulphate or phosphorus grenade with a panic button so when hell freezes over your guns and their owners cannot be traced.
 
Unless you're unfortunate enough to live somewhere that they have registration, I wouldn't worry about it.
 
Bill of sale with the serial number on it .. That is in Texas though .. I am not sure of other states..
 
Drew: Can't speak for the rest, but for me asking to see a valid handgun permit, and that the name and address on it match his or her DL, before selling a longarm is the only reasonably reliable method I have of determining that the prospective buyer is likely to be of decent character and not a "prohibited person" under existing state and Federal law.

IMO, I have a moral obligation to myself to do the right thing, whether a law requires it of me or not. I am solely responsible for my own actions, and that includes some part of the repercussions and unintended consequences.

If I do not make the effort to do my best in determining the bona fides of a person to whom I would sell a weapon, how does postulating ignorance as an excuse absolve me should that weapon subsequently be used to take an innocent life? I believe that it does not, and I regard it as a particularly reprehensible brand of sophistry to pretend otherwise.
 
Gun transfer records from FFL are supposed to be destroyed after a specified period of time. This has be floating back and forth between 90 days and five years, depending upon who has the record.

If you have a CCW, your prints and mug shot are "in the system" -- big time. That's state and FEDERAL.

If a gun you sell is used in a crime, it can come back to you. If you knowingly sold to a felon, you expose yourself to "accessory to . . . " prosecution. If you sell to a felon, or someone otherwise disqualified from purchase, you expose yourselt to "unlawful sale . . . " etc. etc. You're a party to the transaction whether you know it's unlawful or not.

At gun shows I see handguns being bought and sold between complete strangers, no record of the sale. BATF is present at gun shows. BATF knows a lot of the felons at a gun show by sight.

BATF, FBI, local Sheriff plays hardball on unlawful transfer of firearms. These are big boys with resources for enforcement. You don't wanna mess around with them.

If you're charged and convicted of unlawful transfer, you'll never lawfully own another firearm, ever. Something to think about next time you sell to someone you don't know.
 
Gun transfer records from FFL are supposed to be destroyed after a specified period of time. This has be floating back and forth between 90 days and five years, depending upon who has the record.

If you have a CCW, your prints and mug shot are "in the system" -- big time. That's state and FEDERAL.

If a gun you sell is used in a crime, it can come back to you. If you knowingly sold to a felon, you expose yourself to "accessory to . . . " prosecution. If you sell to a felon, or someone otherwise disqualified from purchase, you expose yourselt to "unlawful sale . . . " etc. etc. You're a party to the transaction whether you know it's unlawful or not.

At gun shows I see handguns being bought and sold between complete strangers, no record of the sale. BATF is present at gun shows. BATF knows a lot of the felons at a gun show by sight.

BATF, FBI, local Sheriff plays hardball on unlawful transfer of firearms. These are big boys with resources for enforcement. You don't wanna mess around with them.

If you're charged and convicted of unlawful transfer, you'll never lawfully own another firearm, ever. Something to think about next time you sell to someone you don't know.
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I have a CCW, so I fall into the "big time" system category. . .I guess I'm not familiar with this huge registry the .gov has which lists all the guns I own.
 
Gun transfer records from FFL are supposed to be destroyed after a specified period of time. This has be floating back and forth between 90 days and five years, depending upon who has the record.
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Hate to burst your bubble but us FFL holders have to keep the 4473 for 20 years per fed law. At requests from the tracing center a photo copy of our book and your 4473 gets faxed to them.
 
I've sold several guns to people I know without any paperwork. Most of them were guns that I bought from FFL dealers. As far as the government knows, I am still the owner of those guns. It doesn't bother me at all.
 
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