How is a handgun possible in your EDC...

[rdunique]

Assuming that one works 5 days a week and is on company time for 8 plus hours. I obtained my CHL about 1 month ago and I am curious how you can consider a handgun in your EDC if you cannot have it at your place of work.

I wouldn't be surprise if licensed carriers dismissed their companies policies but I myself respect their policy. Yes, you can modify your EDC to a knife but what about your firearm?

My only solution I've found is parking on the side of the street that way I can leave my firearm in my glove box.

What's your take?

 

[rdunique]

Oh and btw this is my first post but I've been lurking around for sometime.

 

[W L Johnson]

What's an EDC ?

 

[rdunique]

Everyday carry...do I have the acronym wrong?

 

[W L Johnson]

too late in the night + one I haven't seen too often.

I am curious how you can consider a handgun in your EDC if you cannot have it at your place of work

What state you in? Some states say your employer cannot prevent you from keeping it in your car in the company parking lot while others say they can.

oh, and welcome to the highroad

 

[gunnutery]

EDC? I was wondering what that meant too. I would stick with the side street idea. Do you live in a place that gets snow though? That could be a problem if you'd get cited while snow plows were out.

 

[SharpsDressedMan]

My situation is different, as I work in construction now and really don't answer to just one employer. If I choose to carry, even when the person I am working for is against guns (I simply don't ask, don't tell, now), I just carry. When I used to work for an anti-gun establishment, I just carried when I wanted to and didn't tell anyone. I have little respect for someone or an institution that doesn't respect my rights. Call me old fashioned........

 

[rdunique]

Sorry guys, I'm in Texas. My company is a privately owned business, so that spells everything out lol.

 

[W L Johnson]

In Kentucky You can keep it in your car even in a company parking lot and they can't say anything to you about it.

 

[rdunique]

So is that what you do Johnson?

 

[W L Johnson]

Not now, out of work :banghead:
But it really depends on your state law. Check with your state, obey the law on this.

 

[brboyer]

In most cases, the policy exists for the sole purpose of attempting to avoid liability.

My life is more important than their feeble attempt at financial insulation.

A good 'tuckable' IWB, like a Tucker 'Answer' with a slightly bloused shirt - never know it's there. That or maybe a nice little S&W J-frame/small auto in an ankle or pocket holster. Many, Many ways to prevent detection!

ETA: It's legal in my state.

ETA Again: Most company polices address 'weapons', so if you respect their policy, no knives either.

 

[rdunique]

Sorry to hear Johnson, good luck with the job hunt.

 

[rdunique]

Brboyer - I respect your opinion but in my case it is stuff to put myself in a position to get terminated. I was laid off and I recently have landed a job.

 

[brboyer]

Brboyer - I respect your opinion but in my case it is stuff to put myself in a position to get terminated. I was laid off and I recently have landed a job.

Absolutely no problem. You must always be true to yourself and do the things (whatever they may be) to provide for and protect yourself and your family.

 

[W L Johnson]

A good 'tuckable' IWB, like a Tucker 'Answer' with a slightly bloused shirt - never know it's there. That or maybe a nice little S&W J-frame/small auto in an ankle or pocket holster. Many, Many ways to prevent detection!

I don't think he's asking about taking it into the workplace, but keeping it in the car on company grounds instead of on the street. Am I reading his question right? The law on this varies from state to state.

 

[DeepSouth]

One of the reasons I pocket carry is so I can just take my gun out of my pocket and leave it my truck, and when I get off work I just put it back. That way I'm carrying everywhere but at work. Not the ideal situation, but until hell freezes over and they let me carry at work it's the best I got.

 

[Quiet]

Depends on your state's laws and your company's policy.

 

[W L Johnson]

Sorry guys, I'm in Texas. My company is a privately owned business, so that spells everything out lol

People have this image in their heads of Texas being a totally gun law free state but it's really not true is it. You are more likely to see someone open carrying a gun on their belt in Kentucky than in Texas. Open carry is legal here with no permit.

 

[lions]

In Kentucky You can keep it in your car even in a company parking lot and they can't say anything to you about it.

Kansas is the same way, you beat me to the punch! In Kansas only the building itself would be off-limits, not the entire grounds (parking lot).

I'll give my google-fu a try for Texas laws but it usually isn't very strong.

 

[relocker]

Funny... I was looking this up just the other day. There is a bill currently (I think) in Texas legislation that will allow you to keep you firearm secured in your vehicle regardless of company policies, given a few circumstances.

In so many words, you will need to provide your direct manager with a letter stating that you may have a firearm SECURED in your vehicle and that you will only remove it protect yourself in a situation requiring the use of deadly force. Your employer can only deny you the right if they provide a secure parking area completely fenced in and/or constantly monitored by security guards.

It also includes provision for reinstatement of your previous position and restitution for any lost pay should you be fired for having the firearm on the premises in accordance with the bill.

As far as I know, it is not law yet. I don't know it's current status, but it is Texas SB 730, if you care to follow it.

 

[lions]

http://tsra.com/pdf/chl/chl-bible.pdf

pg. 27

GC 9411.203. RIGHTS OF EMPLOYERS. This subchapter does not
prevent or otherwise limit the right of a public or private employer to
prohibit persons who are licensed under this subchapter from carrying
a concealed handgun on the premises of the business.

Well, the word premesis seems to pretty much ruin the idea of being able to keep it in your car in their parking lot but you can easily circumvent that by parking on a side street like you mentioned.

I also saw the bill to which relocker is refering. I don't have a definative source for a yes or no but I agree with relocker, I don't think it is a law yet.

For now I guess you have to wait for that bill to pass and keep parking on the side street. The knife is better than nothing as long as it won't get you fired either.

 

[JohnKSa]

There is a bill currently (I think) in Texas legislation that will allow you to keep you firearm secured in your vehicle regardless of company policies, given a few circumstances.

The legislative session is over and the bill did not pass.

It made it through the state senate and through all the committees and never got even a SINGLE no vote in any committee nor in the senate.

But the House Calendars committee sat on it until it was so late that they knew it would never make it to a House vote before they released it. That's the second time the House Calendars has killed this bill.

Next try will be in 2011--the TX legislature only meets every other year.

Well, the word premesis seems to pretty much ruin the idea of being able to keep it in your car in their parking lot...

Actually not. Premises is legally defined so that it specifically excludes parking lots. The thing that lets them limit their employees is that they can fire them if they don't comply. It's not a matter of them prosecuting you, it's all about their ability to take your job away.

You are more likely to see someone open carrying a gun on their belt in Kentucky than in Texas.

Correct. Open carry is illegal in TX even if you do have a permit.

 

[Officers'Wife]

My concern(s) with parking on a side would be ;

A.) is there a time limitation after which your vehicle could be towed?
B.) in even the best neighborhoods cars can be broken into.

Either way you would lose your weapon.

 

[luigi]

A good 'tuckable' IWB, like a Tucker 'Answer' with a slightly bloused shirt - never know it's there. That or maybe a nice little S&W J-frame/small auto in an ankle or pocket holster. Many, Many ways to prevent detection!

Of course if you get caught you'll be fired on the spot. and sooner or later somebody is going to ask you "Why did you leave your last position Mr. Boyer?"