Discussion in 'Blackpowder' started by Rogue Coder, Sep 19, 2011.
It wasn't. There was no rust or corrosion anywhere. Was I lucky? Yes, I'd say there was some luck involved, but I sorta think using Ballistol and Bore Butter where also major factors.
No it was not intentional.
Disclaimer: I only use real gunpowder in my C&Bs; bore butter on the arbors, and Balistol to clean and lube them.
Ballistol, bore butter, etc are crucial items to everyday shooting. It is the residue that starts the corrosion process, if you use bore butter over the loads, or a lube pill, etc, then that residue will already be mixed with a compound that will inhibit its action on the metal.
Add to that a liberal spray down with Ballistol after your shoot and you shouldnt have to worry.
Make sure that the Ballistol gets down between the frame and the hammer, into all cylinders, down the bore, etc etc, anywhere that powder gets.
I recently came back to Black Powder after nearly 4 years. Occasionally I have been getting one out and putting a cylinder through, then Ballistol and back in the holster. The only 'rust' that i noticed was that the Ballistol oil had turned a dark 'rust' color.
This last weekend, I processed all the revolvers through warm water, full strip and clean, and bake. Checked them afterwards, there is a little frosting in the barrel, and some over the face of the cylinder. Thats nothing thats going to affect me.
I also believe that no matter how anal a person is with a BLACK POWDER firearm, you are going to get some rust at some time.
and Fingers McGee and Cult of 1858, as long as the powder you are using is REAL black powder and NOT one of the subs, especially Pyrodex. Pyrodex residue itself is corrosive. I know from bitter experience. Don't know how corrosive the residues left by the other subs are compared to Pyrodex. Perhaps someone with greater knowledge than I on the subject can enlighten us all.
This is the gun oil that I use. Yes I know I should relax. My wife tells me the same thing. Anyway, I took apart the gun again. This time, I took out the nipples and did an inspection. What I found was that one of the nipples had some brown gunk in the threads and on the edge where the nipple screws into the cylinder. There was also a tiny bit of the same brown gunk in the crevice of the loading rod. I spent an hour scrubbing out the brown gunk and recleaning the gun. Now, whether the brown stuff was rust or Traditions solvent residue or Outer's bore cleaner residue IDK. All I know is the next time I go and shoot the gun, when I get home the gun is getting a hot soapy bath.
I was advised that this does not happen with cooler water and maybe the soap is not necessary. So, I will try that next. Also good is to clean completely, dry with patches and then douse right away with a water displacer like Barricade-- one thing at a time, like cylinder, then barrel/frame etc. This does not give rust time to start and with as much Barricade as I apply, rust does not have a chance. Sometimes I get lazy and don't put the gun together until the next day, and that also lets me see there is no problem. I take the whole gun apart after a day of shooting. I am retired and don't have anything better to do than putter around with it anyway, maybe while watching TV or listening to the radio. So, that's my story, and I'm sticking to it (at least for now).
You mentioned using 'Solvent' to clean your Revolver after shooting Black Powder?
Solvent is not an appropriate way to clean Black Powder residu...( even it is may be appropriate for some kinds of Smokeless Powder residu ).
Hot Soapy Water is what one would use for cleaning Black Powder Arms after shooting...along with a Nylon or Brass Bore Brush, Wads of Paper Towel, etc.
Blot dry, then finish drying using heat form a Hair drier, setting in the Sun or whatever, so a drop of Water smeared on it is seen to evaporate in a few seconds.
Then Oil it up and stow away till next time.
The Traditions solvent is an appropriate black powder solvent. There's also many other black powder solvents, some requiring more elbow grease than others. It's a good idea to have more than one cleaning product on hand to help remove stubborn deposits caused by using the various powders, especially at the range.
Here's some others:
I shot my smokeless cartridge guns in a CAS meet but due to running out of shot shells my last two rounds of shotgun were done with some BP rounds. Of course this means NO lube of any sort. I came home and being tired I forgot that I had a gun that needed cleaning. A week later I moved the shotgun aside in the cabinet and something tweaked in my head. I had a heart sinking moment but I went ahead and cleaned up the barrel. My worries were unfounded as it cleaned up just fine and is as shiney now as it ever was.
Separate names with a comma.