6Gunslinger
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after selling my gun (and performing proper shipping & transfer to FFL) do I need to contact the local authorities and "un-register" my firearm?
how to "un-register" a firearm
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I didn't think Nevada was a state that had firearms registration. If it is, you probably go to the same place you registered them.
If you only had to file out Federal Background Check forms, technically they are not registered and supposedly the BATF destroyed records of the check within 180 days.
If you only had to file out Federal Background Check forms, technically they are not registered and supposedly the BATF destroyed records of the check within 180 days.
6Gunslinger
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it was definitely registered, they do it at most shops here right when you buy it/transfer
6Gunslinger
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they actually register it with the police department and issue you a blue card when you buy the gun so its definitely on record
BADUNAME13
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Transfer through FFL= Unregistering.
6Gunslinger
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thats what I figured, I just want to make certain
AStone
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I've explored this issue a bit here (Oregon).
I've been told by folks ranging from FFL holders to Sheriff's office to keep a bill of sale on gun transfer, complete with name, address, license number, and signature of the person buying the weapon, regardless of state.
That's extra evidence that you no longer own it.
I've been told by folks ranging from FFL holders to Sheriff's office to keep a bill of sale on gun transfer, complete with name, address, license number, and signature of the person buying the weapon, regardless of state.
That's extra evidence that you no longer own it.
Black Adder LXX
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+1 on the above. Save the receipt with signature and copy of license with all of your valuable paperwork and you should be okay.
DMK
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Just curious, this 'registration' you speak of, is it just a Las Vegas thing? Or all of Nevada?
jaholder1971
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Kansas has no registration.
Fella's;
There are those who prefer to let firearms lose their paper trail. There are those who don't.
On the one hand, those who prefer paper worry about their own deniablity. "Nope, I sold it & can prove it officer." The downside being that if the government ever does decide to confiscate firearms, you're going to lose everything that's documented.
On the other hand, there are people who place the larger issues of RKBA above their own convenience. Many of those people do what they can to break trail on guns.
Where you stand, is of course, your own personal choice. But it's the constitution that gives you that choice at present. The erosion of the bill of rights over the last several decades can be laid squarely at the feet those who vote "me first" IMHO.
900F
There are those who prefer to let firearms lose their paper trail. There are those who don't.
On the one hand, those who prefer paper worry about their own deniablity. "Nope, I sold it & can prove it officer." The downside being that if the government ever does decide to confiscate firearms, you're going to lose everything that's documented.
On the other hand, there are people who place the larger issues of RKBA above their own convenience. Many of those people do what they can to break trail on guns.
Where you stand, is of course, your own personal choice. But it's the constitution that gives you that choice at present. The erosion of the bill of rights over the last several decades can be laid squarely at the feet those who vote "me first" IMHO.
900F
GigaBuist
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It's a county level thing. Clark county, which is where Las Vegas is, has a handgun registration system.
leadcounsel
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Nah, it's a CYA move to avoid being the pawn for some unscrupulous person who has stolen a gun and wants to put it in your gunsafe. Have fun explaining those 15 stolen guns in your gunsafe when the authorities come for some other innocuous reason...
Or, how about the nafarious person who files a stolen report on the gun he just sold you, or the gun you just bought that was used in a double homicide.
Or the buyer with bad intentions who buys the gun registered to YOU, commits a murder and dumps the gun in the river.
I prefer the paper trail when it comes to guns. We pretend they are no different than a TV or a lawn mower, but then we argue that they are important because they are unmatched in the ability to take a life or defend a life. For that very reason, if the state compiles a paper trail I prefer to make sure that I at least have a CYA trail in my file cabinet to CYA.
That being said, I don't think there should be any records at all and I would gladly destroy my records if the state would destroy all records and if I could trust that.
Or, how about the nafarious person who files a stolen report on the gun he just sold you, or the gun you just bought that was used in a double homicide.
Or the buyer with bad intentions who buys the gun registered to YOU, commits a murder and dumps the gun in the river.
I prefer the paper trail when it comes to guns. We pretend they are no different than a TV or a lawn mower, but then we argue that they are important because they are unmatched in the ability to take a life or defend a life. For that very reason, if the state compiles a paper trail I prefer to make sure that I at least have a CYA trail in my file cabinet to CYA.
That being said, I don't think there should be any records at all and I would gladly destroy my records if the state would destroy all records and if I could trust that.
sfmittels
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I'm surprised there is any kind of registration in Clark County. It's been a long time since I was in Nevada, but my parents retired to Henderson. When my father passed away in 1994, the police removed his firearms from his house. He had willed his firearms to me. I simply took a copy of the will, the probate papers and my Arizona ID to the police station in Las Vegas, and they handed the guns over to me. It blew me away, it was so easy! Now I suppose they think they've got to be politically "correct" in Sin City.
Incidentally, 'cb900f', the self-defense laws in Arizona were completely backward until last year. If you were forced to defend yourself with lethal force, the burden of proof was on YOU to prove that you acted properly. In other words, there was a legal presumption of guilt until you proved yourself innocent. I took my CCW training prior to last year's statute change, and that point was hammered home again and again. We were given explicit instruction on what to say (or, more importantly, what NOT to say), and we were instructed to retain counsel immediately. Now we have a Castle Doctrine in Arizona, and the draconian presumption of guilt has been rescinded. Thank God Mike Nifong didn't live here during those dark days. The prisons are filled enough.
Incidentally, 'cb900f', the self-defense laws in Arizona were completely backward until last year. If you were forced to defend yourself with lethal force, the burden of proof was on YOU to prove that you acted properly. In other words, there was a legal presumption of guilt until you proved yourself innocent. I took my CCW training prior to last year's statute change, and that point was hammered home again and again. We were given explicit instruction on what to say (or, more importantly, what NOT to say), and we were instructed to retain counsel immediately. Now we have a Castle Doctrine in Arizona, and the draconian presumption of guilt has been rescinded. Thank God Mike Nifong didn't live here during those dark days. The prisons are filled enough.
6Gunslinger
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wow, thats crazy.... yeah, its mandatory here in Clark County (I live in Vegas/Henderson) to register your guns immediately (within 24 hours) and most (if not all) shops do it on the spot and issue you a "blue card"
I actually found out the answer to my dillema today when talking with a shop owner. She said that there is no way to "un-register" a firearm here, it will remain registered in the owners name regardless of if it is sold and re-registered, etc..... so she told me to hang on to the documentation and receipt in case anything ever comes up.
This does make me kind of nervous, but I suppose if I choose to sell a firearm thats the breaks......
I actually found out the answer to my dillema today when talking with a shop owner. She said that there is no way to "un-register" a firearm here, it will remain registered in the owners name regardless of if it is sold and re-registered, etc..... so she told me to hang on to the documentation and receipt in case anything ever comes up.
This does make me kind of nervous, but I suppose if I choose to sell a firearm thats the breaks......
greener
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Glad to know that the Nevada government is looking out for its citizens. How does this "remain registered" work? The transfer to a new, legally registered owner doesn't register in the ownership database?
Fella's, and sfmittels;
I see your point regarding my burden of proof statement. I made a blanket pronouncement that you knew of an exception to. However, my point was in regard to breaking the paper trail, not self defence. I'd think that the burden of proof currently continues to rest with the prosecution regarding an undocumented sale or other form of transfer.
I'm also sure that that "loophole" will be targeted for closure in the relatively near future.
Bill Of Rights, we don't need no stinkink beel of rights. For the literalists, that was sarcasm.
900F
I see your point regarding my burden of proof statement. I made a blanket pronouncement that you knew of an exception to. However, my point was in regard to breaking the paper trail, not self defence. I'd think that the burden of proof currently continues to rest with the prosecution regarding an undocumented sale or other form of transfer.
I'm also sure that that "loophole" will be targeted for closure in the relatively near future.
Bill Of Rights, we don't need no stinkink beel of rights. For the literalists, that was sarcasm.
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