Discussion in 'Rifle Country' started by ontarget, Jun 23, 2016.
You can usually get a Howa 1500, for a little less than a Weatherby Vanguard. There are some slight build differences between the two, also.
I'm using a Howa 1500 Varmint for F-class (precision) and it's working very well.
The Howa 1500 and Weatherby Vanguard are the same rifle, except that (as I understand it) the Vanguard has certain dimensions to inch spec vs. metric on the Howa, so it's possible that some parts like scope mounts will fit one correctly but not the other.
In the same approximate price range the Tikka T3 is another excellent rifle.
All of the Vanguards I have worked on are identical to the 1500's except the stocks.
If you keep one long enough to rebarrel, be prepared to spend a little more in labor. The barrel threads are metric which most smiths charge extra for. Takes me twice as long to thread as inch threads.
A friend has the same gun as myself and it is very accurate with hornady factory ammo. I haven't played with mine too much yet but I think the potential is there to be quite accurate.
I'd go as far as to say it the best bolt action for the money as it can be had at the price of the axis, 783, or American.
LOVE my Howa 1500! It's a .30-06, and shoots very well. They're slightly heavier than a lot of the rifles on the market, which actually attracted me to it. Also a 24" barrel instead of 22".
NOTE: Both rifles do sub 1/2MOA with my handloaded ammo. I have never shot them with factory ammo so I can't say how accurate they are with other ammo.
Both shoot ½ MOA out of the box with appropriate ammo.
The one-piece bolt is a new concept to me and is awesome. The action very smooth and accuracy is great. I really like this rifle:
According to Weaver, both the Howa and the Vanguard take the same scope mounts (36 & 35, same as the Remington 700).
There are some cosmetic differences to make a Vanguard resemble a Mark V, but basically the Howa and the Vanguard are the same gun.
FWIW, at one time Howa made all Weatherbys, including the Mark V, until Mark V production was moved to the US.
I sent an email to Legacy Sports with this same question about the mini when it came out and was told it was meant for .223 only. It seems like maybe you could run a wylde reamer in the chamber and be good to go, but that's speculation on my part.
Thanks. The claim of inch/metric difference was told me by a CS rep of Bell & Carlson when I asked why their Vanguard short-action stock didn't fit my short-action Howa 1500. They also said I was OK to very slightly modify the stock to fit, which I did without problem. I don't know if there are actually any dimensional differences or if this is some sort of legend.
Could you provide more detail on the modifications needed?
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