Hunting rifle stock refinish

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The stock on my Ruger M77 is pretty rough looking.

I'd like to refinish it. A while back, as a trial run, I tried refinishing the stock on an old single-shot .410. After stripping the stock, all I did was use some walnut furniture stain, and spray varathane for the finish. It turned out looking pretty nice.

I'm wanting to get that same look for my M77, but is there a better way to go? I see a lot of recommendations for using Tru-Oil, should I stain and then finish with that?

Any ideas or suggestions? Thanks!
 
depending on the wood, they can take stain differently. Consider using a wood conditioner first.

Take your time & dont rush it.
 
I've been a hobby woodworker my whole life and I have done a few rifle stocks, the main thing is take your time and don't try to rush the job. Think about every step and then rethink it, the before you begin think it over. Test your theory's and formulations on scrap woods before you touch the rifle. Now with the disclaimer said;

I use Formby's re-finisher to strip the old finish off the stocks and leach out gun oils that may have soaked into the stock. I have found Formby's to be less harsh on the woods natural oils. Use a steam iron and damp rag to steam out the dings, as long as the grain is not broken a dent should raise out, you can often raise dented checkering. Then hand sand very carefully down to 400 grit paper being careful not to change any angles or round over corners be especially careful around checkering, the bolt channel and the ejection area, you may just want to mask any checkering with blue painters tape, use small sanding blocks to on any long flats. This is also where if there has been any shrinkage in the butt plates of fore end cap you carefully level them with the wood. Once you think you are ready for color wipe the bare stock down with a damp rag to raise the grain and sand it smooth one last time, this is called whiskering the wood.

Test your color choices in small sections of the barrel channel before you do the whole stock, that way you can get an idea of how your piece of wood will react with you stain. I like to use alcohol based stains for speed they dry in minutes, if you choose an oil based stain you should let it dry for a week before you apply an oil finish. Applying the oil top coats is pretty straight forward, apply liberally and let the wood soak it all in. After 2-4 of these heavy soak in coats the oil will start to lay on top, this is where the hand rubbing will build up the finish enough to fill the pores in the wood. Then it is up to you to decide how far you want to take it, for that deep glossy loose yourself look you will apply up to 40 coats with a few final buffing coats. For a plain satin look 6-8 coats is really all that is needed. If the rifle has checkering mask it off and when the stock is done mix your tru oil 50/50 with some mineral sprits and apply a few light coats with a good artist brush to seal the checkering . Use that same mix to seal the barrel channel and action cut out.


40X with 40-50 coats for that high gloss look, took about 6 months total, but it was rough to begin with.

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Winchester and Kimber with the satin look. These took about 2 weeks each.
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I've done a couple of Ruger stocks. Both of them were '70's vintage rifles with walnut stocks; one a 77, the other a 10-22. They both had that old orange-ish, flaking off type finish on them. If you're wanting a finish that can be done overnight or in a couple of days, you needn't read any further.
First of all, I very much do NOT like shiny stocks as I think there's nothing more cheesy looking than a beautiful piece of walnut with a finish so shiny you could shave in the reflection. As such, I steer away from Tru-Oil. But that's just my preference.
I begin by stripping the stocks with one of the caustic aerosol wood strippers or ordinary oven cleaner. Neither has ever harmed any of my wood and being water soluble, they're easy to clean up. Just hang the stock by a wire or coat hanger, spray the stripper on, give it a few minutes to work, scrub the gooey mess off with a semi-stiff plastic bristle brush, rinse and let dry. Make sure you wear some sort of vinyl protective gloves during this process. Hang and let dry. If there are any dents in the wood, I remove them using the steam method described above. I then sand the stock with fine 400 grit paper only if necessary.

For the finish, I use boiled linseed oil (BLO)exclusively. I slightly dilute it mixing 3 parts BLO to 1 part 100% pure gum turpentine. Once mixed, I cut 400 grit sandpaper into 2" +/- squares, dip them into the oil mix and sand the entire stock with them. This will remove almost no wood, but will create a muddy looking paste which is a mixture of BLO and very fine wood dust. Leave this "mud" on the stock until it dries, wipe the residue off and repeat several times. What this does is fill the grain with the fine wood dust. Really you almost can't overdo this step, but normally it doesn't take over 4 or 5 sanding sessions to sufficiently fill the grain. After the last sanding sessions with the stock thoroughly wipe it with a soft cloth... even try to buff it somewhat.

Now the time consuming work begins. Dip your fingers in the BLO solution and rub it all over the stock. Just get a little at a time on your fingers and rub it into the wood with the heel of your hand. When you've applied one coat, set aside or hang the rifle and allow the coat to dry thoroughly before beginning the next coat. Depending on your climate, it may take from two days to a week to dry. Repeat the application of the coats until you have the desired finish.

I'n sure by now, you've already wondered why I didn't use stain. In my experience, with any decently figured piece of walnut, no stain is necessary. My 10-22 stock is beautiful. It looks like a custom stock, but is just an original factory stock.
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Pardon the cheesy scope set up. It was all I had at the time. ;)

The Ruger 77 I refinished turned out with a beautifully dark stock that looks in every like a custom stock. This is the only picture I have of the rifle. Sort of difficult to see detail, but the finish is very similar to that on the 10-22.


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The best part of this type finish, especially for a hunting rifle, is if you get a scratch, scuff or ding in the stock, just rub a bit of the BLO mixture on it and it covers right up!
Good luck,
35W
 
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After my last post, I ran across the stock finishing instructions by an old gentleman who was in the business of restoring old Winchesters. As you'll see, he used his own oil, but his method is what's important:

"OIL FINISHING WOOD WITH PRE-64 RED-BROWN STOCK OIL

Pre 64 Red-Brown Stock Oil highlights the natural Red-Brown color of American Black Walnut. The stain is in the oil, giving a deep penetrating non-fading color. This Oil comes uncut, AND HAS TO BE THINNED, 1 part 100% Mineral Spirits to1 part Oil. We use an empty and cleaned shampoo bottle or dish detergent bottle to thin and store the oil. Pour the 4 ounce bottle of oil into this bigger bottle, and then fill the empty Oil bottle with 100% mineral spirits, and pour on top of the Oil. Shake and you have 8 OZ. of ready to use shop oil. Its been said a beautiful hand rubbed oil finish is not on the wood, its in the wood. This is true, and the oil can penetrate the wood a lot easier if its thinned.

But logic tells us if we don’t thin the oil, put on a heavier thicker coat of oil, we can get a faster build up, and finish the job a lot quicker. But a coat of thinned oil will dry faster, and allow another coat to be put on faster. In fact so much faster, that by the time the thicker coat of oil has dried, we have put on enough thinned coats to more than equal the thickness of that one thicker coat ? ? ?.

Oil dries on the surface first, and the hard thin surface shell can fool you into thinking the oil is dry, so we put on another coat. After about three of these thick coats have been put on, because the surface felt dry, the wet oil under the surface starts coming up to the surface, and the surface now feels wet and waxy. It will take a good three months for this mess to completely dry, if it in fact ever dries. And it will be embedded with dust, lint, pet hair, homo sapiens hair, and any other fine particles it has come in contact with. A finish with all this embedded material in it looks horrible.

But with thinned oil you are applying a microscopic thin coat, and particles in the air will not stick to it. Put the thinned oil on this morning, forget about particles in the air. Next morning easily brush off any particles clinging to the stock with your hand, because non of them will be embedded in the finish. If you are thick skulled, maybe you should read the above again. I had to experience it again and again a few times myself, before I got it through my thick skull.

Many of our regular customers, some custom builders, thin the oil 2 parts thinner to 1 part oil. We personally like this double thinning better, because the thinner the oil, the faster it will dry, especially in the high humidity we have here in Wisconsin. We would thin it for you and ship it ready to use, EXCEPT mineral spirits are flammable and could only be shipped as hazardous material. And this really complicates shipping, as to difficulty, expense, and slower ground service only.

To prepare your stock for refinish, use paint stripper, such as Zip Strip or Strip-Eze to remove the old finish. If you sand off the old finish, you usually cut too much wood, and if the stock is a two piece like a Model 12, or a lever rifle, the wood will not still stand a little proud over the metal, when you put it back on. If the metal stands proud over the wood, any idiot knows its a refinish, and it looks like manure.

We put the stripper on with a small throw away paint brush, we buy at our local hardware for 25 cents. Let the stripper set about 30 minutes, wipe off with 0000 steel wool. If you have one of the newer epoxy based finishes, the old finish can be really difficult to remove. Next we give the stock a bath with Mineral spirits or warm soapy water. We use a tooth brush to scrub out old finish from checkering and Inletting. This wet bath causes the wood to swell. Small nicks and dents can miraculously disappear from this swelling. Larger ones are easier to sand off after this bath. BE CAREFUL SANDING, don’t do the whole stock, just lightly wet sand the nicks and dings. And a stock some fifty years old or better, will look more real with a few small nicks and dings left in it. This gives the stock character. Let the stock dry 24 hrs before starting to finish.

Now that the stock is prepared for finish, you will need an oil dish. We like those plastic bowls that butter or margarine comes in. They have a snap on lid. And these bowls have a big flat base, not as easy to accidentally tip over on the table. Next get some 320 and 400 WET/DRY sand paper. This is black paper. Cut it into approximately one inch squares with scissors. Pour some THINNED shop oil in your bowl.

I use my fingers to apply a sloppy wet coat of oil. Then dip one of your 320 sand paper squares into the oil, and start to sand lightly with finger tip pressure. The wet oil will act as a lubricant, and you will not be cutting much wood with this wet sanding. You will be making wood flour from your stocks wood, and using that wood flour to fill the pores. The wet sanding will force wood flour into the pores. This wet sanding will cause a black paste to form, from the sanding dust, the oil, and oxidation. By the time the paste forms, you will feel the paper wear out, quit making sanding dust. Get a fresh square of sand paper and continue. Apply a wet coat of oil over the black paste, let set 20 to 30 minutes, wipe off with a paper towel. Don’t be too particular about the wipe off, if you leave the stock a little dirty, it will do you more good than harm. LET SET TWO DAYS TO DRY. Then repeat another coat of wet sanding in, and LET DRY TWO DAYS BETWEEN EACH COAT. Put on three coats of this wet sanding in with 320, then switch to 400 sand paper and wet sand in two more coats. Your stock will now be silky smooth, and the PORES WILL BE FILLED. The better the job you do filling the pores, the faster and easier the job will be to finish. Now the job gets a lot easier, there is no more sanding. Put the stock aside for a few days or even a week, to make sure the oil has completely dried deep down in the pores.

For the finish coats use only a very small minute amount of oil, apply with your finger tips, and rub in with the heal of your hand. There should be no oil left to wipe off from finishing coats, because its all rubbed in. Again, let set two days between coats.

Your wood may not look like much for the first few finishing coats, but the beauty will soon start to show. And your stock will get more beautiful with each coat. You will know when you are done, you will have a beautiful, soft, smooth as silk satin sheen. It takes us about 30 days, here in our shop to start and completely finish a stock .Some wood can take a little longer to finish, and I don’t know why. But if you run into a piece of this stubborn wood, just keep going, and it will eventually finish.

Oil is $24.85 a bottle, and the $24.85 includes the shipping. Four ounce bottle thins to 12 ounces, enough for a couple full stocks. We take major credit cards, money orders, personal checks. If you had rather we do it for you, we charge $250 to finish a butt and forearm, or a one piece rifle stock. If you decide to do it yourself, you will find out why we charge $250 to do it, but theres nothing all that difficult about it. If we can do it, you can do it, but it does take some practice to get the hang of it, and it does take some time."

He used to have a website with pictures of some of his restorations and the finish on the wood was breathtaking.

Hope this helps.
 
The best part of this type finish, especially for a hunting rifle, is if you get a scratch, scuff or ding in the stock, just rub a bit of the BLO mixture on it and it covers right up!

+1 Satin oil finishes are very easy to maintain and are my favorite for any rifle or shotgun.
 
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My suggestion here is to go to Brownells site, after all they are the gunsmiths supplier. Stay away from boiled linseed oil as a waterproof finish, its not that great.

Modern technology has brought us much better choices.
 
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