Hunting Rifle with a Detachable Magazine

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I wouldn't say that at all...

They also make it possible to unload without working every round through the chamber (yes a floor plate can too, but the cartridges can go everywhere)

Faster loading is beneficial in situations other than "tactical" as well.
The 1st DM rifles were what later came to be the Lee-Enfields designed to give soldiers the ability to rapidly reload. While they do serve various purposes and benefits, their lineage is derived from the tactical aspect of rifle shooting.
 
The 1st DM rifles were what later came to be the Lee-Enfields designed to give soldiers the ability to rapidly reload. While they do serve various purposes and benefits, their lineage is derived from the tactical aspect of rifle shooting.

Sorry but this is incorrect in all aspects.

Early detach mag rifles such as the smle or the k11 were issued with exactly ONE magazine. All reloading was done through the 5rd stripper clips.

In the case of the smle the mag was used as a reserve for when things got really HOT with less mobile engagement being handled with single rounds loaded with the mag cutoff on.

Detachable mag hunting rifles have actually been around longer than the "tactical" guns you're alluding to. Search for a savage sporter or super sporter, Remington model 8's and the Winchester self loaders.

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I concur with the choice of the Savage 110 series. They are moderately priced. They come with a pre-zeroed, mounted scope, and their Accu-Trigger is a joy to shoot. I cannot remember whether mine came with an extra magazine, or whether I acquired it later. But, as noted above, it would be well to have an extra, just in case.

I also remember the Remington 788, one of which I owned and should never have sold. It had some unique design features, such as a rock-solid, short-throw bolt. It was intended as a low-end model, and sold for not much money, but surprised the world with its tack-driving capabilities.

It was magazine-loaded.

If I could find a left-handed model today, I'd snap it up in a minute.
 
Sorry but this is incorrect in all aspects.

Early detach mag rifles such as the smle or the k11 were issued with exactly ONE magazine. All reloading was done through the 5rd stripper clips.

In the case of the smle the mag was used as a reserve for when things got really HOT with less mobile engagement being handled with single rounds loaded with the mag cutoff on.

Detachable mag hunting rifles have actually been around longer than the "tactical" guns you're alluding to. Search for a savage sporter or super sporter, Remington model 8's and the Winchester self loaders.

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Without getting into a pi$$ing contest, the SMLE is older then the Browning designed Remington 8 or the Winchester self-loaders that were hitting the market in the early 1900's. To say a rifle that's issued one magazine is one thing, but to think it wasn't very wide practice to pick up your dead buddies magazines for your own rifle on the battlefield is another with many soldiers toting numerous magazines on their person. Repeating rifles in general were tactical in purpose, with one of the 1st repeating rifles, the Henry, was designed with a military purpose, getting more shots on an enemy. Definitely a tactical application
 
Again soldiers only had ONE magazine. Just because your buddy took a dive on a grenade in the trenches didn't mean you got to steal his equipment at your lesure. Quite the contrary. The body would be moved to the rear to be disposed of and any serviceable equipment would be reissued to fresh machine gun fodder.... er I mean troops.

Find one historical reference to a soldiers equipped with detachable mag bolt actions making mag changes instead of recharging from the ISSUED strippers. Hell the British army of the day would probably shoot you if they caught you using an unissued to you piece of kit.

Besides what's the benifet anyhow a 5 or even 10 rd mag reloads a lot faster from chargers when its stuck in the rifle than it does from changing out the whole assembly. A hell of a lot lighter and bulkier too.

Changing the entire mag to reload only became advantageous once capacity went well above what you could load via stripers.

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Going back on topic, I have a Remington 700 SPS DM in 7mm Rem. Mag. I've never had a problem with feeding or anything else.

It's nice to be able to pop out the mag and remove the chambered round to get in the truck.
 
IMHO there is nothing wrong at all with a detachable mag. I have a Browning BAR that is very nice, controls recoil well, looks really nice and is also just as accurate as most bolt guns. The down side is that it can be a pain to disassemble and clean compared to a bolt. I like the fact you can carry a spare loaded mag with you as well instead of a pocket full of loose ammo. Mags can be spendy though. $50+ for most rifles. If you don't mind semi autos and are willing to spend about a grand, the Browning BAR longtrac or shortrac oil finish Is a VERY nice rifle.
 
It's nice to be able to pop out the mag and remove the chambered round to get in the truck.

Yep! And when you stop you get out, pop the mag in and cycle the bolt. Ready to go.

This and their safeties is why I've grown to despise ammo scattering leveguns for hunting.

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Pro: The load/unload at the truck (as required) in some states is a nice feature. Spare mags, even for Savage rifles are spendy, but a rattle-free way to carry 4 more rounds that you are unlikely to lose--unless you lose the whole magazine.

Con: If you live in a state where its ok to have rounds in the mag but NOT in the chamber while you are driving, a blind magazine is just fine. It's one more thing that can go wrong/get lost. It's hard to even load a magazine fed rifle with a single round as the mag forms the 'follwer' that puts the bullet in position. Lose the mag and you've got a way for all manner of junk to get into your rifle's action, even if you do manage to single load a round.
 
I have
Savage 99
Browning BLR
Browning A Bolt
Rem 760
Rem 788
Along with military pattern mag fed rifles and I must say that they are very convenient but I never go out with at least 2 in my posetion. Many of the models are interchangeable with calibers of the same action size so it eliminates some duplication.
I can take either just have a spare.
 
Entry level makes it tougher. Most military rifles are built to a much more rugged standard of use and command higher prices.

I started hunting with a HK91 in the late seventies, one detachable mag, and didn't know I had the best of the deal. Years later, I moved to bolts and levers, which demonstrated the hassle of unloading fixed guns by cycling all the rounds thru the chamber. It nicks, scratches, and even sets back the uncrimped rounds with all the constant loading and unloading. Keep in mind that LEO/MIL is very aware of the increased probability of ND's and Kabooms from abusing ammo with constant cycling. It's NO different for civilian guns, they are just as prone to it. Reading the Rem 700 reports of ND's blamed on the trigger, cycling ammo is a large part of when it happened.

Mag fed, drop the mag, cycle one round, done. Safer, much easier. If a conservation agent stops by, there's less drama trying to examine things. They carry and train on mag fed weapons, and know less monkey motion means less risk.

It's really a question of why use a fixed magwell rifle for hunting at all? Most semi autos are more than accurate enough for medium game, are quicker getting a second shot, more accurately, and as said, safer to operate in the field. That's why I hunted for almost twenty years with a HK, and why I built an AR to hunt. My time spent using a bolt or lever wasn't wasted, but it was largely unproductive because the rifle wasn't helping me - I had to conform to it's idiosyncracies, mostly based on obsolescent designs from over 100 years ago.

I don't set the advance and handcrank my car in the morning, either.
 
TIROD: I get what you're saying, and that HK91 is definitely in a league of it's own as I have come to find out is true about most H&Ks I put my hands on. I think the things the OP might struggle with is reliability of an AR style gun in the larger calibers, caliber choice as most are geared towards a short-action round, and weight. The newer semi-autos are definitely night-and-day different in accuracy as opposed to years ago, but still the bolt gun is inherently more accurate than a semi, as single shot is inherently more accurate than a repeater. What you said about "entry level makes it tougher" is exactly right. To get a very reliable, popular hunting cartridged AR-style rifle is going to set him back substantially more money than anything categorized as entry level, with something along the lines of a Browning BAR (which I love) can be even more than that.
 
I appreciate the recommendations. As of right now I am thinking I have narrowed it down to the Ruger American, T/C Venture or a Savage 111 in either a .243 or a .308.
 
I appreciate the recommendations. As of right now I am thinking I have narrowed it down to the Ruger American, T/C Venture or a Savage 111 in either a .243 or a .308.
The Savage would be my choice in .308 - Not much you won't be able to do with that. Plus it allows a good amount of customization later on down the road should you go that route. Good luck and send pics
 
How about one of these.............

Your randnomness on any given subject grows tiresome.

Have you seen hunting ammunition for 7.5x54mas? And you can't shoot most commercial loaded ammo in an ag42 fyi I've owned both the rifles you've pictured

Oh and how is 7.92x33 better than 7.62x39?


Back on subject realistically a 7.62x39 will do all the hunting 95% of us ever do. To date my longest shot on deer was 278 yds lasered, using what was honestly a 2moa 7.62x39 ar15

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I have a Rem 760 Gamemaster pump in 30.06. Great gun with a 4 shot clip and I also have a 10 shot clip. I like it as a brush gun with open sight and it's pretty light.
 
I think it was the first or second response someone mentioned the rem 770. Personally if you're just getting into hunting that rifle would work just fine. My cousin bought one two years ago and hasn't had a problem, he's shot 4 deer. Hasn't missed one with that rifle yet. He's also been deer hunting for 10+ years and he's happy with it. As for me i prefer a nicer, smoother bolt rifle like a Winchester m70 but realistically for a first rifle you'd be just fine with a 770. Under $350 brand new with a 3-9x40 scope and if you decided you want something nicer next year go ahead and get a nicer gun. Then you have the 770 as a backup rifle or one to use if it rains/snows the weekend you want to go hunting.
 
Your randnomness on any given subject grows tiresome.

Have you seen hunting ammunition for 7.5x54mas? And you can't shoot most commercial loaded ammo in an ag42 fyi I've owned both the rifles you've pictured

Oh and how is 7.92x33 better than 7.62x39?


Back on subject realistically a 7.62x39 will do all the hunting 95% of us ever do. To date my longest shot on deer was 278 yds lasered, using what was honestly a 2moa 7.62x39 ar15

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Im sorry, but I reload my own with 150gr. SP`s, & if I am getting tiresome to you, don`t read my posts
 
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