Why so many hunting rifles with proprietary detachable magazines?

[zaitcev]

I really need a magazine fed pump and lever action...

Prices of Remi 7615 are such that it's easier and cheaper to buy a printer and print an Apple Pie:

 

[Wolfshead]

I prefer detachable magazines in my hunting rifles.
I converted my REM 700 to have a detachable magazine, and my Tikka came that way.
The main reason is that I hate carrying ”loose” rounds while hunting.
Having an extra mag in my pocket or pack is SOOOO much easier in my mind.
The mags don’t hinder my carry as they are flush (my 700) and close to flush (my Tikka).
I have a six round clip for my Tikka that I keep in my pack for a just in case moment.
Is my way perfect? For me it is as I have it down for a system, but it may not work for someone else.
That is fine.
Every one of us has our own way of doing things, and ways we prefer to do them. We should celebrate our ingenuity instead of denigrating our differences.

 

[S.Crockett]

Perhaps they will. That is a good thing. I am still correct.

Actually it’s not, and you’re not.

 

[d2wing]

Actually it’s not, and you’re not.

I guess people don't check with real dictionaries anymore. I give up. I don't like the trend of redefining words, and throwing away tradition, but I see correctness is a lost cause. A rose by any other name. While both words have multiple meanings, lets add to the confusion.

 

[mcb]

I guess people don't check with real dictionaries anymore. I give up. I don't like the trend of redefining words, and throwing away tradition, but I see correctness is a lost cause. A rose by any other name. While both words have multiple meanings, lets add to the confusion.

Sure clip and magazine can be used interchangable in many public discourses but within most technically focused firearms communities; civilian, industry, military, and others, the words clip and magazine have specific technical definitions that separated them from each other in important technical ways.

This is pretty common in any technical field from textiles to nuclear power plants. The dictionary definitions of many words falls well short of the needed technical definitions of words used in specialized fields.

See "precision vs accuracy" for another wonderfully contentious example similar to clip vs magazine.

 

[danez71]

Sure clip and magazine can be used interchangable in many public discourses but within most technically focused firearms communities; civilian, industry, military, and others, the words clip and magazine have specific technical definitions that separated them from each other in important technical ways.

This is pretty common in any technical field from textiles to nuclear power plants. The dictionary definitions of many words falls well short of the needed technical definitions of words used in specialized fields.

See "precision vs accuracy" for another wonderfully contentious example similar to clip vs magazine.

This is true. Ive experienced this in every industry I've worked in.


The crux of the issue is When does the use of the industry specific technical definition makes a difference and when does it not.

98.9324% of the time it's a mundane conversation and it doest make a difference.

The other times It's very important

 

[chicharrones]

I guess people don't check with real dictionaries anymore. I give up. I don't like the trend of redefining words, and throwing away tradition, but I see correctness is a lost cause. A rose by any other name. While both words have multiple meanings, lets add to the confusion.

I don't like change either, but if language never changed we could all read Beowulf.

 

[d2wing]

I don't like change either, but if language never changed we could all read Beowulf.

Lol, thanks for that. Since clips now don't have springs perhaps we need to rename Paper clips to paper magazines, hair clips to hair magazines and clip boards to magazine boards.
Yes I am stubborn. We are conditioned to ignore textbooks and dictionaries and accept what the internet says and be bullied if we don't. And the internet is being censored to contain more content that conforms to certain norms and less general knowledge.
Remember the Canadian truckers. Soon AI or the internet will tell us what to think and keep track of what we do think. If we don't conform, we may not be able to have access to currency and goods. How close is that to the Mark of the Beast. I am not sure, but I want to stay on the not conforming side of things.

 

[d2wing]

Sure clip and magazine can be used interchangable in many public discourses but within most technically focused firearms communities; civilian, industry, military, and others, the words clip and magazine have specific technical definitions that separated them from each other in important technical ways.

This is pretty common in any technical field from textiles to nuclear power plants. The dictionary definitions of many words falls well short of the needed technical definitions of words used in specialized fields.

See "precision vs accuracy" for another wonderfully contentious example similar to clip vs magazine.

I agree. Every occupation has it's very specific jargon. Knowing it is crucial. In this case, a clip refers to the attachment method as a clip holds the magazine and that is what they were called for decades. Nobody said detachable box magazine. I recently bought a magazine that said clip on the box. But I get the point. Not sure if I will raise this issue or others again. I still read books, mostly very old ones.
Oh, and thanks everyone for letting a grumpy old man grip a little. I might have a little cabin fever.

 

[wanderinwalker]

Oh, I don't know about that, I kinda liked my CZ 527M...wish I hadn't lost it.

I've never seen that specific model, that's kind of neat and different.

Here's my 527FS in .223 Remington. In a weird stroke of "what gives?", I don't have a picture of it with the 4x Leupold mounted on it as it currently sits. I find I'm a bit of a contrarian and I actually really like the Bavarian-style buttstock with a scope mounted. I suspect that's probably a combination of my competition shooting background teaching me a very head's up style for offhand shooting and my relatively long neck that doesn't like to turtle onto an American-style stock. At any rate, that detachable box magazine hangs at just the wrong spot. @Legionnaire , I know what you mean about the safety; I find it works best if I think of it like thumbing the hammer on a lever gun.

 

[Legionnaire]

@wanderinwalker, that's a beauty to be sure!

 

[armoredman]

I've never seen that specific model, that's kind of neat and different.

Here's my 527FS in .223 Remington. In a weird stroke of "what gives?", I don't have a picture of it with the 4x Leupold mounted on it as it currently sits. I find I'm a bit of a contrarian and I actually really like the Bavarian-style buttstock with a scope mounted. I suspect that's probably a combination of my competition shooting background teaching me a very head's up style for offhand shooting and my relatively long neck that doesn't like to turtle onto an American-style stock. At any rate, that detachable box magazine hangs at just the wrong spot. @Legionnaire , I know what you mean about the safety; I find it works best if I think of it like thumbing the hammer on a lever gun.

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It was one of a kind - the same gunsmith who created the one of a kind stock, (with spare 5 round mag holder in the butt), also created the one and only 10 round magazine, worked perfectly. Unfortunately gone.