Funderb
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The steel core stuff would do some nasty to a deer, but for an inexperienced hunter it is better to stick to SP.
Hunting with a Mosin Nagant
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The reason I posted that picture is that not all FMJ acts the same.
My brother in law hit a deer with some Swiss GP11 two seasons ago. And if he hadn't clipped the spine, I bet the deer would have run a while. I've shot hogs with czech silvertip and it REALLY messed them up. I've also hunted and killed deer with Brown bear 200 grain SPs. Each get the job done.
Again, I'd like to reiterate that not all FMJs are the same. Blanket statements don't do anyone any good.
My brother in law hit a deer with some Swiss GP11 two seasons ago. And if he hadn't clipped the spine, I bet the deer would have run a while. I've shot hogs with czech silvertip and it REALLY messed them up. I've also hunted and killed deer with Brown bear 200 grain SPs. Each get the job done.
Again, I'd like to reiterate that not all FMJs are the same. Blanket statements don't do anyone any good.
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Oops. Double tap.
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I have a PSL and a Mosin Nagant. I'm going javelina hunting this Friday. I'm NOT using either of them. Shooting a javelina with a 7.62x54R 150 grain soft point is NOT a good idea, unless you like your meat exploded. I'm using a .223 loaded with Black Hills hollowpoints.
It'd be interesting to see what the Russian 7N1 sniper ammo would do, though. This ammo, designed for the Dragunov, has a lead knocker in the base. On impact, the inertia causes this lead knocker to move into a hollow area in the bullet, destabilizing it and causing it to tumble. Despite being fully jacketed, I'm sure that would cause some nasty damage.
It'd be interesting to see what the Russian 7N1 sniper ammo would do, though. This ammo, designed for the Dragunov, has a lead knocker in the base. On impact, the inertia causes this lead knocker to move into a hollow area in the bullet, destabilizing it and causing it to tumble. Despite being fully jacketed, I'm sure that would cause some nasty damage.
WardenWolf
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I'm not a fan of S&B ammo for precision work. I tried some in my .223. It's cheap, but the accuracy isn't up to par.
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Sellier Bellot makes a decent factory round and the brass IS reloadable too. also Privi Partisen makes good reloadable ammo as well. ive killed several deer with my Mosin and from 125 - 220 grain bullets it performs great. The FMJ "style" bullet will not do enough terminal damage to HUMANLY and quickly kill large game . i have shot turkey with Stel core ammo with my mosin and watched them run/fly off. its a through and through hole NO expansion so NO energy transfer. try reloading some rounds for it youll LOVE how easy it is to find the right load for it. seems to like a lot of different recipes! 
good luck and have a "blast" with some history!
good luck and have a "blast" with some history!Deer Hunter
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If you're looking for cheap SP ammo for a mosin, Brown Bear 200 grain SPs do the trick. They are very accurate out of my M39 as well.
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I got PRVI Partisan 150 grain softpoints for $10.50 a box from AIM Surplus. I bought 10 boxes for the $1 a box discount.
MCgunner
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How many hunting buddies do you have left?
You obviously don't hunt in heavy cover. Tree limbs and such have a way with things. I always have the gun on safe when still hunting or stand hunting and I'll never change that. That's why they put the damned thing there in the first place! If it has a safety, why not use it? Okay, a Mosin safety is a PITA. Good reason to get a sporting rifle. If I were using the Mosin to still hunt, I'd just raise the bolt handle out of battery. Be faster to press the bolt down before the shot than off the safety.
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caribou
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I hunt for a living, and I use an M-39 Finned Mosin Nagant with Czechoslovakian LPS 147 Grn."Silver tip" FMJ.Legal here in Arctic Alaska, too.
Forget the balistic conjecture, these babys keyhole like crazy, and blow holes that make Animals die QUICK.
Humain kill......???
When something dies because I , a human , is killing it, is as close to Humain kill as it gets. Shoot an animal in the right place a with "Whatever" and it will die, right there.
Like this;
That Mosin will do you good!
The Russians put a VERY positive safty on that baby, but once your used to it, its GREAT.
They also knew what happend when thay touched the trigger.....
Forget the balistic conjecture, these babys keyhole like crazy, and blow holes that make Animals die QUICK.
Humain kill......???
When something dies because I , a human , is killing it, is as close to Humain kill as it gets. Shoot an animal in the right place a with "Whatever" and it will die, right there.
Like this;
That Mosin will do you good!
The Russians put a VERY positive safty on that baby, but once your used to it, its GREAT.
They also knew what happend when thay touched the trigger.....
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Thank you for the pictures. They are beautiful.
eeeeewwwwalemonkey
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Anything you'd use a .308 or .30-06 on. It falls right in between the two, power wise.
MCgunner
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Soak that sucker on ice water. Takes about five days. Every day you open the cooler to add ice, if the funk knocks ya over, it ain't time. When you can open the cooler and the funk is faint or gone, it's time to butcher. It won't hurt other meat soaking with it, either.
However, javelina is so dry, it's really best used as tamale meat, except for the back straps. It tastes like pork, but LORD it's dry. Even crock potting the meat, while it'll be more tender, it's just too dry. Makes great tamales, though.
The pics are cool, caribou, thanks! Actually, cool? They look rather cold to a guy from south Texas. LOL!
WardenWolf
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Actually, I plan to barbeque it.
7.62x54R varies in power by the loading. It ranges between low-end 30-06 all the way up to around 7mm Remington Magnum.
7.62x54R varies in power by the loading. It ranges between low-end 30-06 all the way up to around 7mm Remington Magnum.
Kentucky-roughrider
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The russian sniper rifle was the 91/30 not the M38. the 38 was the cavarly's carbine. if you are going to do, do it right.
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hey guys,
whats tamale meat?
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whats tamale meat?
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wankerjake
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Caribou, you have got to have the coolest "job" I have ever heard of. Thanks for the pics! I hope you appreciate what you have going on up there. It seems that you do. I must say I am jealous.
Todd1700
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Not really. If you place the end of the buttstock in the crook of your dominate arm; hold it by the forearm with your other hand; then reach up with the hand of the dominate arm and pull the nob on the bolt back and to the left you will notice that it is much easier to manipulate that way. Having the butt against the crook of your arm provides a backstop that allows you to pull the bolt back without moving the rifle. Of course this procedure will never be as fast as the safety on a modern hunting rifle but it is by no means difficult to do.
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I agree that soft points are better (in general). I disagree that FMJ's are crappy.
There are a lot of criticisms and misnomers being leveled at the FMJ bullet on this thread that have no basis in reality.
Tamales are a Corn husk with a meat center, usually served with Chili. A Texas special, Border cooking... In the old days when they used ALL of the cow, they would roast the head in a pit and scrap the meat off it and use it for tamales. Border cooks noticed that meat for tamales could be just about anything, because the taste was greatly influenced by the corn / chili. I am sure their are recipes and pictures online.
Frankly, I have nothing to add on cooking javelina. I would eat it I guess, but the one time I popped one I gagged so many times while cleaning it, I just left the carcass on a rock and walked away. A piglet I would kill / cook and eat today. An adult I would kill / cook and eat ONLY in matters of Self Defense...
Supposedly some of the guide chefs in camps and lodges can make these things not just edible, but delectable.
Advice to hunters, when going in the field for javelina bring thick rubber gloves, an apron, rubber boots and a dust mask (if not a full blown gas mask). Buy a pack of Marlboro reds, break two in half sticking the filter ends in your nose and breath ONLY through your nose...
I agree that soft points are better (in general). I disagree that FMJ's are crappy.
There are a lot of criticisms and misnomers being leveled at the FMJ bullet on this thread that have no basis in reality.
Tamales are a Corn husk with a meat center, usually served with Chili. A Texas special, Border cooking... In the old days when they used ALL of the cow, they would roast the head in a pit and scrap the meat off it and use it for tamales. Border cooks noticed that meat for tamales could be just about anything, because the taste was greatly influenced by the corn / chili. I am sure their are recipes and pictures online.
Frankly, I have nothing to add on cooking javelina. I would eat it I guess, but the one time I popped one I gagged so many times while cleaning it, I just left the carcass on a rock and walked away. A piglet I would kill / cook and eat today. An adult I would kill / cook and eat ONLY in matters of Self Defense...
Supposedly some of the guide chefs in camps and lodges can make these things not just edible, but delectable.
Advice to hunters, when going in the field for javelina bring thick rubber gloves, an apron, rubber boots and a dust mask (if not a full blown gas mask). Buy a pack of Marlboro reds, break two in half sticking the filter ends in your nose and breath ONLY through your nose...
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