I am soo mad (California sucks)

[MarcusWendt]

People that tell us we should move out make me sick. MOVE IN AND HELP US FIGHT. PUT YOUR MONEY WHERE YOUR MOUTH IS, OR PUT YOUR MOUTH WHERE YOUR MONEY IS. Whose side are you on, anyways? Certainly not ours, even though we're entrenched in yours.

Can I get a Hallelujah? Can I get an AMEN!!!!?? Testify my Brutha! Speak on it!

It's as if people who left CA have received citizenship from France or something.

We are on the front lines, not in the rear with the gear. Yes, it CAN suck sometimes, but we stay, we fight, to the last man.

 

[The Bushmaster]

My main reason for escaping was I would not be able to afford my horses if I stayed in the USSR of C...One can not afford to retire there and own property...Just can't...

 

[BamBam-31]

Ah, that would explain your bitterness, wouldn't it?

Sorry to hear about your financial woes. However, plenty of people retire in this beautiful state. With property. With horses. You're just not one of them. So, again, your blanket statements about California (extrapolation from personal experience, it seems) are less than accurate. Believe them if you want, just don't expect anyone else to.

And I've often said that much of the Kali-bashing here on THR stems from motives other than gun-related concerns. Thank you, sir, for proving my point. Hopefully, a Mod wil take note and perhaps revisit the whole Kali-bashing issue.

(You may have the last word, if you wish. It's called venting. Go ahead and call it "USSR of C" again. It's okay. )

 

[The Bushmaster]

Naw...Enough has been said. Though I'm not to sure which is worse...Ilinnoy or Kali...Let us know when all gun manufacturers quit selling to your "fine" state. I know of two so far.

I do feel for you. I fought long and hard for gun rights in that state. Just too many uneducated or refuse to be educated bleeding heart liberals including your governor, which I voted for not realizing his true colors. I wish you luck...

An Old Oregonian...The Bushmaster...

 

[Gord]

You may have the last word, if you wish. It's called venting.

What do you call the OP that started this thread? Venting is great, but if there's nothing to be done about it short of moving out of the state, why bother? All you're going to get are admonitions to do exactly that.

 

[teknoid]

I used to travel to CA on business a couple of times every year. I was unfortunate in that I usually ended up in LA or San Diego.

The scenery was nice, when it wasn't shaking or burning. The cost of living was out of this world, too. There are a LOT of beautiful places in this country. Many of them have fewer drawbacks than others.

 

[JCF]

The scenery was nice, when it wasn't shaking or burning. The cost of living was out of this world, too.

The cost of living is high, no question. I actually left Cali a couple of years ago to chase a lower cost of living. I never had any illusion that where I was going was going to offer the kind of recreational benefits that I enjoyed in Cali, but I thought the lower cost of living and the resulting extra money in my bank account would definitely compensate for it. I bought an enormous and beautiful house for less than it would cost to rent an apartment here.

Problem?

I took almost a 50% hit on my salary right off the hop.

The aircraft hanger sized house that I could now afford cost me 6 times as much to heat, cool and power than did my Cali house... partially because of its' size, and partially because of the fact that it was in the middle of No Country for Old Men type heat.

My health care insurance cost tripled, and required heavy deductibles and co-pays... despite the fact that every cost calculator, website, etc. that I researched indicated that it would be cheaper.

Commute distances were no less than what they were in Cali.... despite the fact that every cost calculator, website, etc. that I researched indicated that they would be.

Food was no less than it was in Cali....despite the fact that every cost calculator, website, etc. that I researched indicated that it would be.

My car insurance was no less than it was in Cali... despite the fact that every cost calculator, website, etc. that I researched indicated that it would be.

So, long story short, at the end of the day I was not one dollar further ahead living in my big house in the "lowest cost of living" part of the USA than I was living in the place I really wanted to. I guess I could have moved into a little house or apartment and perhaps saved some money... but the idea of moving was to improve quality of life, not replicate it in a place that I would rather not be.

So, for me, it made sense to move back. Now I live where I want to... just like all of you. We're all happy.

So tomorrow morning, when I walk out onto the patio of my overpriced housing and look out across the ocean in the distance, I'll once again smile and stretch, take a deep breath of the cool air and, with my guns in their safe and my pockets as full as they were in the desert, be content in the knowledge that I have found my own personal paradise.... just like, I'm sure, all of you do each day.

Right?

 

[BamBam-31]

Let us know when all gun manufacturers quit selling to your "fine" state. I know of two so far.

That would be financial suicide for the larger companies like Glock, Ruger, Springfield, etc. I wouldn't hold my breath if I were you. They could lose Utah, Kentucky, and Missouri, and I doubt it'd hurt as much as if they lost California. While I applaud Barrett's gesture, the other company you speak of wasn't really selling anything in CA anyways, so their "boycott" is more bark than bite (all bark, actually). And I voted for Arnie, too. Who knew?

if there's nothing to be done about it short of moving out of the state, why bother? All you're going to get are admonitions to do exactly that.

Again, I would direct you to www.calguns.net. (Are you really an ex-Californian gunowner who doesn't know about Calguns?) Look in particular at the 2A section to see what's being done.

No one said there isn't anything to be done. You said that, you believed that, that's why you left. Best of luck to you. Please don't undermine the efforts of those that choose to stay and fight. We're the ones keeping the gun culture alive here, as Moonclip put it, and it sure is a helluva lot harder to do here than where you're at.

I used to travel to CA on business a couple of times every year. I was unfortunate in that I usually ended up in LA or San Diego.

The scenery was nice, when it wasn't shaking or burning. The cost of living was out of this world, too. There are a LOT of beautiful places in this country. Many of them have fewer drawbacks than others.

Again, every thread discussing CA inevitably devolves into Kali-bashing posts like this. Nothing pertinent to the firearms questions initially raised by the OP, just an opportunity to say "CA sucks." Thank you, too, sir, for proving my point.

How much more Kali-bashing before a Mod realizes this thread, like so many Kali-bashing threads before it, has veered hopelessly off-topic and off The High Road? :banghead:

 

[freakshow10mm]

I paid $30,000 for my house last year. It has a new furnace with central air, new water heater, siding is 5 years old so is the metal roof. The lot is 50x120, the house is 1358 sq ft and is walking distance (2 blocks max) from:

hospital
convenience store
post office
credit union
two automotive repair shops
hospital
doctor's office
6 restaurants
3 bars
4 blocks from the fire station
1 block away from the police station
1 block away from the village hall
8 blocks from the school
travel time to work: 2 minutes

Cost of living bills:
Mortgage, with HO insurance paid AND property taxes paid through escrow: $330.28
heating/cooling (gas): $150-200 in winter; $50 in summer
electricity: $75 tops
water: $30



This is not my truck, this is the previous owner's truck.

 

[JCF]

Excellent.

A very nice home at a very good price.

And if you too wake up every morning and realize that you have found paradise; that you are living the way you want to and there is no place you would rather live than right there... then you know exactly how I feel.

 

[socaldan]

BOY...Step on some toes and a whole lot of B.S. excuses come out!!!
Stop telling me there's no hope and support us here and give us some hope.
Stop j%@king me off and HELP US!
After all..if "they" get away with it here in the P.R.C. (peoples republic of California)...YOUR NEXT!!!
HEY...We can DISARM KENTUCKY or UTAH...What then... THEN we fight???
...YA...O/K...
For all you supporters...THANKYOU.
For the rest of you...Well.. I guess you deserve what you get!
how does this sound...
"BARBARA BOXER for PRESEDENT"

 

[socaldan]

SORRY. I just get a little TIMID sometimes.
I don't need to tell you we're ALL in trouble.
I just wish we could get more help.
I'm sure you ALL do all you can.
DON'T YOU ???

 

[teknoid]

Quote:
I used to travel to CA on business a couple of times every year. I was unfortunate in that I usually ended up in LA or San Diego.

The scenery was nice, when it wasn't shaking or burning. The cost of living was out of this world, too. There are a LOT of beautiful places in this country. Many of them have fewer drawbacks than others.[\QUOTE]

Again, every thread discussing CA inevitably devolves into Kali-bashing posts like this. Nothing pertinent to the firearms questions initially raised by the OP, just an opportunity to say "CA sucks." Thank you, too, sir, for proving my point.

I was bashing no one, as my post clearly states. For those who enjoy CA, have at it. I prefer my home in the mountains, and love it here. The cost of living is much less. I too, had to take a pay cut to move here (from IL). I make a third less, and my disposable income increased by the same amount. My freedom increased by tenfold, however.

My comment on "shaking and burning" was factual. On one of my trips (don't remember date) the quake that took down the big "A" at Anaheim stadium occurred. On another, it was hard to find my rental car. All the cars in the lot were gray, having been covered by ashes from the fire just blocks away.

My house payments on a new home with 10 acres is less than an efficiency apt. in CA. If I want to see the ocean, I'll take a trip to Tybee Island. I get free accommodations with relatives. As I said, there are a LOT of beautiful places in this country. CA is only one of them. Whatever floats your boat.

 

[AtticusThraxx]

All that aside...a gold Desert Eagle? Come on dude!