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I applied for my FFL you think ill get it?

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I applied for my FFL. I plan to run the business from my home, I have met all requirements the ATF requires, secure filing and storage etc...
Who thinks ill get it??
If i do I will do $10 FFL transfers in the greater Seattle area!:D
 
The ATF wants the money that you pay for your FFL and as long as you are qualified, there should be nothing to keep you from getting it.
 
you should get it. and i remember just few short years ago when it was 5$ to transfer.. now people want 50 or more.

the thing you need to make sure is that once you get it, to keep it you need to really run a business. having an ffl license for personal use is the one thing that gets the atf riled up
 
i already got a ton of accounts setup so if you live in the area or just want a decent deal on a gun let me know what it is and ill see what pricing is. Im not really looking to make money off this, I have a very good paying job, the world sucks right now so im trying to help out my fellow gun owners as much as I can.
 
you need to comply with local zoning laws, so hopefully your locality allows home business
 
They deny it because it is difficult to prove to them a legitimate business without a dedicated place of business... Thats all
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they have no choice but to grant it so long as you meet the requirments, such as having atleast an hour of "established business hours" and are im compliance with local ordnances. the batfe does recognize home based business
 
You might want to get a good liability lawyer and some business insurance as well.

And you will need to keep excellent records of those transactions you have done.

The ATF loves to harass people that give cheap access to firearms.

Having a FFL can be a blessing and a curse.
 
FWIW....can't stress paperwork enough. Every, and I mean EVERY gun that a customer doesn't carry in and then carry out (missed trades, etc.) MUST be logged.

At the store I worked at, the FIRST and ONLY thing you did with a repair or trade in was to log it in the book. No sales stuff, no phone calls, no nothing.

Make real sure your private stuff is kept well separate of inventory. I hate paperwork, but nothing will sink you faster than bad records.

The other scam the BATF was running here was "straw purchases". A guy that they know would not pass NICS would offer to buy a gun at full price. Soon as it was rung up, he'd be short the money, so he'd the a friend pay the bill and run the 4473 in their name. BIG no-no.

Now, this may sound obvious, but they'd also both talk about and look at a gun. When they'd carry it to the counter, and one would fill out the 4473, but the other guy would talk about "his" new gun. Of course, the second guy was a felon. he'd fork over the money. As obvious as these sound here, they were a LOT slicker in person. Every major gun dealer in this area got sucked into a class action suit by the City of Gary.
 
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alot of home FFL's have been getting denied simply because they ATF doesnt like the idea of it


I have to disagree what the issue usually is that Local code / Zoning prohibits home based FFLs and the ATF will go with the local rules and deny you. Unless you have a rouge Inspector not doing his job that statement is way off key. The more FFL holders there are the more job security Inspectors have. you have to realize Inspectors jobs are compliance and licensing unlike an Agent... And about them harrassing people charging low transfer fees again not true maybe a Inspector that has it out for some one but one who does thier job will only harrass you if your not complying with regulations like accurate record keeping ect. There may be some Inspectors that fit that bill but they are few I am sure. They have nothing to gain by denying FFLs and harrasing FFLs
 
I applied for my FFL. I plan to run the business from my home, I have met all requirements the ATF requires, secure filing and storage etc...
Who thinks ill get it??
If i do I will do $10 FFL transfers in the greater Seattle area!
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If you do that it would be a great service to the community, since so many people have jacked up their prices to even $50 per transfer!

Please PM me if you do get the FFL and plan to do the $10 transfers.
 
Get your tax ID, DBA, buisness bank account and all the required forms from the BATF. It really impresses them when you have everything ready to go. Whne I had the interview for my FFL the agent said thos things are what impress them the most because it shows them you are serious about starting a business.
 
To clear up what I have ready to go is, business licensed, insured and bonded, locking filing cabinets already labeled for what goes in them and where, proper secure storage, bank accounts, credit card processing, proper local city forms filled out, copy of paper work sent to local PD :D
 
Any other FFL's have some other advice for me as to what to expect when i get my initial inspection.
Also I have a large metal cabinet that locks that I will use for storage, do they consider that "secure" enough?
 
I've heard of them going so far as to require bars on windows, security cameras, and other electronic security measures. So, I would guess it boils down to, who knows.
 
THey would need a reason to deny, like lack of proper zoning, failing background check etc etc.
Ten dollar transfers. Good luck with that. I hope you have another source of income.
 
ACBMWM3: alot of home FFL's have been getting denied simply because they ATF doesnt like the idea of it
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MYTH.
The FFL is a "shall issue", meaning if you meet the requirements (including state & local) ATF will issue you the license.

Hoppy590: you need to comply with local zoning laws, so hopefully your locality allows home business
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TRUE.

solareclipse: They deny it because it is difficult to prove to them a legitimate business without a dedicated place of business... Thats all
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Huh?

What's difficult to prove? ATF is PERFECTLY COMFORTABLE with home based businesses. One of the largest and most prosperous gun dealers in Dallas operated out of his home and at gun shows for YEARS! Only opening a storefront this past year.

I conduct my business as a gun dealer from a one bedroom townhome. I don't have "public hours", I'm open by appointment only. I don't even have a table in my kitchen.

redneck2: ...The other scam the BATF was running here was "straw purchases". A guy that they know would not pass NICS would offer to buy a gun at full price. Soon as it was rung up, he'd be short the money, so he'd the a friend pay the bill and run the 4473 in their name. BIG no-no.

Now, this may sound obvious, but they'd also both talk about and look at a gun. When they'd carry it to the counter, and one would fill out the 4473, but the other guy would talk about "his" new gun. Of course, the second guy was a felon. he'd fork over the money. As obvious as these sound here, they were a LOT slicker in person. Every major gun dealer in this area got sucked into a class action suit by the City of Gary.
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Hardly a "scam". It is by definition a "straw purchase" and a perfectly illegal method of acquiring a firearm. I would bet that a FFL who doesn't know what a "straw purchase" is will likely not be in business for long. BTW, the "second guy" doesn't even have to be a felon for the purchase to be illegal. If the FFL had followed the rules this would be a non issue. Don't blame ATF on this one.

TIMC: Get your tax ID, DBA, buisness bank account and all the required forms from the BATF. It really impresses them when you have everything ready to go. Whne I had the interview for my FFL the agent said thos things are what impress them the most because it shows them you are serious about starting a business.
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THIS.
Know the regulations BEFORE your interview. My ATF guy was reluctant to approve my app because the property manager told him "guns aren't allowed here..." I showed him a copy of my lease with the home business section highlighted. I got the license.

ThrottleJockey: I've heard of them going so far as to require bars on windows, security cameras, and other electronic security measures. So, I would guess it boils down to, who knows.
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All ATF regulations require is "secure storage". Alarms, safes, guard dogs, ninja's & claymores are icing. Remember. Wal Mart doesn't lock it's display guns in a safe at night. And the ones in back are in a secure "area" (meaning cage), not a giant safe.

Whatever method you choose to secure those guns doesn't beat having insurance coverage to replace them. Get insurance that covers OTHER peoples property. My dealer insurance covers the guns I'm storing prior to transfer as well as guns on my table at gun shows.

Good luck with your business.
 
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