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We had our annual squirel rodeo saturday (everyone puts $5 in the pot most squirels wins also cookout and lots of shooting). Now to the part that I don't understand for the last 3 years someone has brought an ar15 or clone to shoot that wasn't sighted in or the scope was mounted wrong or this year a guy shows up with a gun with quad rails, acog, vertical fore grip, light, the whole nine yards, nice gun. Loads it up and proceeds to send 30 rounds down range as fast as he could pull the trigger, didn't hit anything but the ground (we had 2liter bottles filled with water from 100 to 300 yards for rifle shooting) As he was shooting I noticed that the acog was visibily loose (from about 15 yards away) when I told him he said I know I'm just firing it for fun, so I told him that I had the tools needed to tighten it up in my truck and he said no its too much trouble. So he ended up shooting up about 100 rounds of ammo and all that he hit was the ground and made a bunch of noise. Am I missing something here, I like to hit what I'm aiming at, Oh now I get it its the spray and pray mentality that I've herd so mych about
 
Have you seen the videos of people shooting full auto guns?
They all have the biggest grin on their face.
Sometimes it's OK to just have fun.
Not very productive but fun anyhow.
Maybe he knew he wouldn't hit anything anyhow.
Like you I like to hit what I am aiming at.
I have better things to do with $40 worth of ammo.
Then again I don't see the reason for a squirrel shoot.
In Washington state I don't think you can't shoot them legally.
 
Am I missing something here, I like to hit what I'm aiming at, Oh now I get it its the spray and pray mentality that I've herd so mych about
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Or he was simply embarrassed to admit his gun was not put together correctly and he didn't know what he was doing.

Ego can make people do some pretty dumb things.
 
Rugerman, Any time someone is kind enough to point out something to me I am smart enough to let them fix it and buy the soda for me and beer for you.
Keep being a good gunny and someday he might get it.
 
Some people are happy just making a racket, others have to justify every round fired, each group has members who can't understand the appeal of the other groups actions. BTW count me in the 2nd group please.
 
AC Dodd The squirel rodeo is a excuse to have a good time and sort of revenge for the times when you're hunting and a squirel comes thru and makes you think its a deer (the squirel that you don't look at will be a 12 pt buck). Yeah I guess I sort of understand the fun factor & I've shot full auto guns in my day but I still like to make noise on both ends, the bang when the gun fires and the whack when it hits what I'm aiming at. to my way of thinking an accurate gun is the fun gun, not the one that makes the most noise.
 
The squirel rodeo is a excuse to have a good time and sort of revenge for the times when you're hunting and a squirel comes thru and makes you think its a deer
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OK that makes sense. Do you eat them?
We don't have a lot of squirrels around here.
 
This year all were given to a guy that lives down the road that asked us if he could have them, we normally give them to someone who wants them. Yes they are edible and if young are tender and tasty but if old and you don't boil them first its sort of like eating your shoe.
 
Just depends, with military rifles like AK's and milsurps, I don't care too much for group size and just like sending lead down range rapidly. For target rifles I only have fun when I am getting excellent and consistent groups.

I bet the guy was probably just a little embarrassed. I would however want that pricey ACOG to be installed properly.
 
Rugerman

I'm with you; the fun's in the hitting. The noise and posturing is incidental.
 
Am I missing something here, I like to hit what I'm aiming at, Oh now I get it its the spray and pray mentality that I've herd so mych about
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You're not missing anything - you understand completely........

Did he have a hi-cap 9mm on his hip as well?????
 
Was he dressed in desert camo's and dreaming of a desert landscape? If he was, he probably didn't need to be at a friendly shoot-togather.
Some people just need that little dream scape. They have more money than experience and wouldn't know or care if the gun wasn't hitting what it was or wasn't aimed at.
 
Rugerman,
To answer the question "Am I missing something here?" I saw it from a free brass perspective. I know guy's that bump fire or other wise tear through ammo. They don't handload, I do. "always get the brass, always get the brass"
 
These squirrels, they're being shot while in trees, correct?

I've no problem launching bullets if the tree trunk or big limbs act as a backstop, but for Mr. Loose Acog to open up spraying and praying....that puts a lot of CF rounds into the air, heading far far downrange, no?
imo, there is something very wrongheaded and potentially criminally irresponsible to that kind of shooting.
 
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Just so the guys with the AR and ACOG don't get an unfair rap (I happen to be one of them), there are some "responsible users" out there. When I went to the range two weeks ago, brought out the Colt 6940 with the ACOG TA31F and only put 20 rounds down-range with it over about 15 minutes. Held 3 sub 1" group with 5 rounds @100 yds each no sweat with some PMC bronze.

Then, just for fun, one of my buddies put up a shoot and see black sticky cover patch on the corner of the target 100 yds (measured about an 1") and bet I couldn't hit it with my first shot. He bought lunch that day.

Looking back, I think I brought it out just so I would have an excuse to clean it!

Spend the rest of the day working with some clays with the old 870. Oh, and it had a nice long 28" barrel, none of that 18" frat boy non-sense.
 
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I'm just a FNG but I think y'all may be a little over critical. I do think it was stupid to turn down the offer to help tighten his ACOG but to each their own. I personally think zipping around in circles on a jet ski or dirt bike is a waste but I don't do that kind of thing for fun. If this guy was getting what he wanted out of the experience that is all that matters. Is there something inherently better about shooting a piece of paper or a water bottle than than just hitting the dirt? I like to hit what I am aiming at too but if this guy decides it is important to him you will see him at the range again. Offer to help him out a second time and he may take you up on it. As a new shooter I am a little embarrassed about how little I know about guns. I know I am doing lots wrong but I would hope that people would offer to show me how to improve without talking down to me.
 
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And I just don't understand that way of looking at things. I get my fun from shooting well and hitting what I'm shooting at.
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As do I but I have on occassion emptied an SKS,Mini-14& 30 or Ar as fast as possible into a backstop. I enjoyed every second of it. If I'm shooting one of my Mauser conversions or other guns I only want the 10 ring or a one shot kill.
 
As long as the guy was observing the four rules, I'm willing to go along with the "to each his own" argument. But if his sight is not properly attached to the rifle, I find it hard to believe that he's really following rule three "Keep you finger off the trigger and the safety engaged until your sights are on the target." If the rifle is in such poor maintenance, there is little accounting for where those rounds are ending up. The lack of interest in maintenance of one's firearm would also send up a big red flag for me over other safety issues, such as trigger and muzzle discipline.
 
fiddletown said:
And I just don't understand that way of looking at things. I get my fun from shooting well and hitting what I'm shooting at.
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Once again we agree fiddletown! I would rather shoot a bolt action rifle that can put 30 rounds into one hole in 30 minutes, then put 30 rounds god only knows where in 10 seconds :)

My problem is the full-auto wannabies tend to annoy me and it's just something I need to work on and get over, so long as they are being relatively safe.
 
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