I finally chose a press to order!!

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BHFG

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Well, after about 6 weeks of learning what I could and LOTS of help from folks here, I finally ordered my press last night.

At first, I had pretty much decided to go with the Lee Classic 4-hole Turret Press. It hass low in price, had lots of satified users, was simple to understand and several online vendors sell 'starter kits' for those of us with starting from scratch. For anyone that wants to find out if releoading is for them, wants to make a minimal investment to start with, or is on a limited budget, I still think this is the way to go. I may end up eventually getting one someday anyway.

But, I decided to go with a progressive setup and spend the money now rather than later. So it came down to the 550 vs the LNL. I won't go into a comparison and trade-offs here. if anyone is ineterested, PM me and I will be happy to go through them with you.

In the end, my decision came down to final cost and availability. I didn't count the cost of dies or other tools in my comparison that I have to buy no matter what press I bought. But I spent time on the phone with both Dillon and Hornady and they gave me a list each of things to buy. So they agreed the two lists were comparable. (If anyone wants the lists, PM me).

The LNL came out ~$150 more than the 550B did for the press, cover, 3 toolhead setups, powder dies and meters. Part of what drove the LNL cost up was the lack of availability. To buy what I wanted meant going to 4 different vendors and still having some stuff backordered. That meant extra shipping costs and still waiting 4-6 weeks for some parts. On top of that, I spent 45 minutes on the phone with Cabelas trying to explain that the shellplate has been redeisigned and even though they have the same model number, there are different Hornady part numbers for the old and new shellplates. They never did believe me but did promise to call Hornady and check.

The 550B was readily available and Brian Enos has free shipping with everything in stock. The Dillon customer service reputation was a big consideration as well. Hornady's has good customer service, but the first-person accounts I found from Dillon users were pretty compelling.

The LNL has some nice features and but I was concerned about dealing with possibly getting old parts for the new LNL design. I figured in the 1000 free bullets, but that is a real world cost of about $70 (that's what I paid at the gun show this weekend for 1000 .223 FMJ), so that didn't cover the difference.

In the end, I went with the Dillon 550B. It was lower cost, readily available and several folks around here have them, so I have some local help if needed. So it should be here in a few days.

Maybe I'll get lucky and end up getting a LNL some day, too, when they are more readily available. But for now, I guess I drink a glass of the blue lool-aid.

Thanks for all the help here, I'm sure I'll be asking for lots more help as I learn what I'm doing.

Tnx,
Rick
 
where did you price the LNL

the LNL is cheaper, those who priced it must of wanted full retail. I had the 550 good press sold it after buying a lnl the case feeder is awsome!! Just finishied loading 5200 45acp switched to 9mm this week only got 800 loaded that thing called work keeps getting in the way of having fun. Did you check out gunbroker on used presses? It's not like you can wear one of these things out. And you can save 50%
 
Congratulations, I still load on a CT but have loaded on a friends 550 and thought it was a very nice press. The priming system was flawless and the press was very smooth. I'm sure you will be very happy.
Rusty
 
The list of parts to buy came from Hornady and Dillon. As I said, they were not a bare-minimum list. But both agreed they were comparable for what I wanted to do.

The prices I used that came out to costing $150 or so more was from online vendors, not retail. Specifically they were from Cabelas, Midway and Grafs. I combined the prices of what they had in stock to try and come up with a complete order, plus I included the cost of shipping.

I was quite surprised the LNL came out to be more. If you want to see the list, PM me and I will send it to you with the prices.
 
You needed to make more phone calls. I found my LnL about a week ago from a small dealer in Pa. for $369.00, the 9mm dies were $40.00. Called Cabela's and they had shell plate #8 in stock for $27.99, all of Horndy's shell plates have been redesigned since last summer so a large supplier as Cabela's would never of had any of the older ones. I also prices them both and found the 550 to come out to be more, not much but some. That wasn't my deciding factor, I think they're both great presses, I just like the option of having a 5 stage press and auto indexing.If you're going to compare the LnL, you need to compare it to the 650, then the Dillon's a lot more. It took me 2 weeks and many many phone calls to find the LnL but they're out there, you just need patience and persistence. :D
 
People,
Let's be color blind for a minute and just be happy for the guy. I am sure you would want the same.

BHFG,

Congrats on finally taking the plunge to handloading. That's the bottom line. Your are absolutely going to love it and you will love to shoot even more. I am sincerely happy for you. There are plenty of folk here on THR to help with any questions you have and help you get a better understanding. Don't be shy...

LGB

P.S. Hope all is well with the family.
 
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Congrats. Now for the expensive part, the load of components you need to buy to start churning out 'cheap' ammo. :)

I've been a happy 550b user for about 2 years now. I don't regret the choice at all. I also bought mine thru Enos w/o any troubles.
 
Congrats on the purchase and welcome to the blue world! I love my 550, but the big thing is that you got one. You will have a lot of satisfaction from loading your own!!!
 
Nothing wrong with a Dillon 550B.

If it's set up correctly, it can turn out excellent rifle rounds as well as pistol.

Two points I learned about my Dillon 550B related to bottleneck cartridges -

1. The Dillon design is apparently perfect for pistol primers, but rifle primers are around 0.004" thicker and the shell plate hits the primer if you don't pull the lever slightly while indexing. (Haven't tried small primers, but this is true for large rifle/large pistol.)

2. If you "break out" resizing/depriming/repriming as a first station operation, removing the brass for cleaning off excess lube, trimming & chamfering, it is easy to use the press for the rest of the reloading process if you just index after inserting the prepped brass at station one before pulling the lever.

And, combining these two points, if you use up an entire box of primers (100) doing the breakout first stage operation, the primer magazine is empty and there is no primer to interfere with shell plate indexing for the rest of the reloading process.

I don't believe the manual addresses this detail, but I believe it is useful information.

Good luck with your 550B!
 
Thanks for the wishes and tips, and especialy thanks to Lgbloader for the wishes on the family. My Mom seems to be doing pretty good after her recent cancer surgery. Eveyone's prayers helped things to turn out ok so far. Please keep 'em coming.

As I mentioned, I would probably have gone with the LNL if it had been easier to find the parts. But, for me, the time savings of being able to get what I wanted easily was a big deal. For some reason, the wife was sold on the 550 from the beginning. But she's just happy that I finally ordered soemthing and will stop talking about them now! (Or so she thinks.)

Even better news is that my Midway order is supposed to get here tomorrow with all the other stuff I ordered. Maybe my press will get here by this weekend too and I can try to set it up over the weekend. Now is when the panic sits in that I'm actually going to do this and all the doubts about getting loads right, etc. But with all the help from you guys I feel confident I'll figure it out over time.

Tnx!
 
The Dillon design is apparently perfect for pistol primers, but rifle primers are around 0.004" thicker and the shell plate hits the primer if you don't pull the lever slightly while indexing. (Haven't tried small primers, but this is true for large rifle/large pistol.)

Loosen the shell plate bolt 1/16 of a turn, and that shoud stop happening, You can also adjust the primer seater depth with the set screw on the bottom of the primer slide.
 
Great Choice!

I have considerable respect for nearly all of the current manufacturers and their presses. Some are niche Mfgr's - some have a well rounded product line. Your choice was a wise one. Since you haven't experienced the joys and tribulations of presses from other manufacturers you may never know how wise you were. The 550 is an awsome choice.

Regards,

:):):)
 
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