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I Find This Reprehensible

Discussion in 'Rifle Country' started by Guyon, Nov 22, 2008.

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  1. Guyon

    Guyon Member

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    I know, I know. I don't need a lecture about free markets or supply and demand.

    Still, folks who choose the quick buck during a period of panic won't get my money later on down the road.

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  2. tnieto2004

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    And I bet they are still selling them.
     
  3. bglz42

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    Happening everywhere... I bought a rifle (from a shop in Texas City, Texas) on election night for $499, went back the next day with a friend who wanted the same rifle. Price $699. Won't buy there again...
     
  4. bukijin

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    If it's worth it to someone, then they will buy it. Can be used in a Remington 7615 which is still legal and very popular in this country now, but very difficult to a mag like that at any price. For me, that price and availability is an absolute bargain - it's all a matter of perspective.
     
  5. tnieto2004

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    bglz42,

    I'm right down the road from you, academy's in our area are having all sorts of trouble keeping pistols in stock. It is crazy around here.
     
  6. scythefwd

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    guyon,
    What was the list price, and what were they selling them for before?
     
  7. woof

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    This is a seller's market for guns and smart buyers will stay out. If they do, it will end the seller's market and prices will come back down. Yeah, yeah, I know gun prices don't come down. And that's true with the general trend. But when there are blips caused by irrationalism, they will correct and quickly.

    I have noticed something interesting in recent weeks, while centerfire and shotgun prices are up, there are good deals on .22lrs. Makes sense, who wants a political fantasy wimpy enough to be fought with a .22?
     
  8. grimjaw

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    Cheaper Than Dirt didn't get much of my money anyway (and won't, no matter how many catalogs you guys stubbornly send me!)

    What's more important to me is what the beneficiaries of all this profit-making panic buying are going to do when legislation comes down the pipe. Will the turn around and shaft the very people who fattened their wallets in an uncertain economy?

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  9. Guyon

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    Most ridiculous in this particular case is that CTD suggests that MSRP on these magazines is $59.96. Price listed on the Magpul site (even though Magpul is currently not taking orders) is $14.95. So not only is CTD benefiting from the panic; they're actively deceiving buyers in order to add to it.

    Other vendors are still taking backorders for the magazines at the regular $14 to $17 prices. I have a bunch on backorder with Aim Surplus for $14.20 each. Penny shipping too.
     
  10. Guyon

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    Oh yeah... just to give a sense of the current demand: the owner of C-Products posted at AR15.com that, as of yesterday, they had received orders for a million magazines since the election.
     
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    That's my new signature on another forum! (Save the serious one for the forum with more readers.)
     
  12. HorseSoldier

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    Wow. Pretty stout mark up on a $15 magazine, even at Cheaper Than Dirt's "discount" price. Anyone check to make sure they're not HK rollmarked PMags, that would explain the price . . . :rolleyes:
     
  13. Shear_stress

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    Dirt must not be all that cheap nowadays.
     
  14. nalioth

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    Guyon, is this your first notice of this?

    CTD tripled their prices the day after the election on most anything that has to do with anything "tactical".
     
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    And their retail store jacked up gun prices and FFL transfer fees. But if people are willing to pay it, I dont have a problem with it. I'll simply find somewhere else to buy from.
     
  16. Eightball

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    The only thing reprehensible there is that they massively makred up the list price to make it seem like people were getting a good deal, rather than getting ripped off by a factor of about 2x.
     
  17. grimjaw

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    Look, if this was the first time CTD, Sportsman's Guide, et al were guilty of this kind of behavior, I might be more angry about it. When I first started buying ammo online I got bitten by SG with false advertising, long before this most recent election and scare.

    Buyers beware, at all times!

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    Don't assume this is unethical . . . .

    Just to take a dissenting view for the purposes of balance: I bought a Saiga after the election and paid what I paid over a year ago for a similar model.

    The shop owner indicated that he could sell it for more, but it was the last one and he was selling it for his normal markup.

    However, he was already informed that basically any EBR he was getting from his distributor going forward would carry a 30-40% premium over anything he had in his shop. And that there are none to be had and they are backordered for months.

    So, maybe somewhere back up the chain isn't playing fair, but don't assume it is the retailer.

    The only thing he did do while I was there, when 3 guys came in looking for AR's one after another was say he was out and put their names on a list.

    I asked why he didn't point them at the Saigas and he said, because we are saving them for guys like you who know what they are and who have purchased from us before.

    So he has me for a customer going forward on two counts: fair pricing and preferential treatment for a good customer.

    That said - supply and demand - no supply, high demand = high price.

    (Oh and CTD are dirtbags anyway!)
     
  19. taliv

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    i agree with the OP. it's reprehensible. it's false advertising to suggest the normal price is $60.
     
  20. Erik

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    By my math, they are gouging more than they claim to be saving you.
     
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    Doesn't Botach Tactical have a reputation for failing to deliver on "too good to be true" sort of deals?
     
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    DOH!:what:
     
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    How's THIS

    I've been eying the new Springfield SOCOM II for some time, drooling all over myself and FINALLY got to the point where I could reasonably afford it (I found one for $1,450 at a local shop not too long ago).......went back the other day just to see if all this election hype caught up to it, and sure enough the SAME EXACT RIFLE was now $1,900. I asked the owner (who I've bought HAPPILY from before) if he was still giving a discount to LEO's and he said "That is the discounted price"!!!!!! WHAAAAAAAATTT???? What a sham!!! I'm glad I just bought my Bushmaster M-4 a few months prior (for $880.00).....doesn't look like I'll be gettin' that M-1 for some time now. Geezz....:banghead:
     
  25. taliv

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    you should have offered to sell your bushmaster for $1700
     
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