I get a little irritated by.............

[hdwhit]

Bob Wright wrote:
Maybe so, but then there are possibilities of further explanation or more questions arise. Seems to me if one is in such an all-fired hurry, they could just quit reading further? No need to try to silence correspondents here.

I don't look at it that way.

As you said, there are possibilities for further explanation, more questions, different perspectives and divergent points of view. None of them are shut out by someone agreeing with a prior post. But, if everyone followed what you want, anyone reading the site would get only the response in Post #3 standing alone amongst a field of different - sometimes contradictory ideas - and would thus appear to be a minority opinion. But, when a number of members of the community responding to the post agree that Post #3 is correct it reinforces its accuracy and persuasive authority.

 

[hdwhit]

Click Click D'oh wrote:
I'm surprised someone hasn't told us to just buy a Glock.

Why would they?

After all, hasn't pretty much everyone in the world who is going to buy a Glock already taken the plunge?

 

[hdwhit]

fallout mike wrote:
Sooo, which is better, 1911 or Glock?

Neither.

The best handgungun in the world is the Hi Point C9.

 

[il.bill]

I am so glad the comments kept coming even after the OP's post was effectively 'asked and answered' in post #3. Otherwise, I would have missed posts #18 & #25!

 

[coloradokevin]

At times a correspondent posts a question on one of the forums, anywhere from simple new man question to very advanced gunny. Then there is a follow up post with a simple answer to the question. This usually followed by several more posts, some good, some wordy. But then somebody says something like "Post # 3 answered the question already."

Maybe so, but then there are possibilities of further explanation or more questions arise. Seems to me if one is in such an all-fired hurry, they could just quit reading further? No need to try to silence correspondents here.

Bob Wright

I think this is just the nature of forums, honestly. After a while there isn't a lot of truly unique content to be discussed, and things tend to get repeated (save for current events, and new designs, etc). As such, it is a reality that after enough time in a forum, you're bound to see some questions that have been answered before... some of them many times.

Still, I think people sometimes use the "Post #3 answered the question" type of response for the sole purpose of saying "I agree with what this guy said".

 

[Panzerschwein]

the m1991a has more stopping powder than the glock but the glock can go threw metal detectors and holds more bullets in the clip.

 

[grampajack]

I think this is just the nature of forums, honestly. After a while there isn't a lot of truly unique content to be discussed, and things tend to get repeated (save for current events, and new designs, etc). As such, it is a reality that after enough time in a forum, you're bound to see some questions that have been answered before... some of them many times.

Still, I think people sometimes use the "Post #3 answered the question" type of response for the sole purpose of saying "I agree with what this guy said".

People evolve though. I used to be the guy who only looked at .45 ACP and 7.62 guns, and now I think .45 ACP is borderline retarded, and I would rather have a .223 carbine than a 12 gauge shotgun. It takes time to piece everything together to the point that you actually understand guns on a fundamental level. So strangely enough, it is productive to rehash the same things over and over.

 

[coloradokevin]

People evolve though. I used to be the guy who only looked at .45 ACP and 7.62 guns, and now I think .45 ACP is borderline retarded, and I would rather have a .223 carbine than a 12 gauge shotgun. It takes time to piece everything together to the point that you actually understand guns on a fundamental level. So strangely enough, it is productive to rehash the same things over and over.

I completely agree. I've asked questions that have been asked before, and I've answered questions that have been asked before. I have no really fundamental problem with it... I'm just saying that this is the nature of forums!

 

[mnrivrat]

I guess since I no one else wants to say this, I will. This issue brought up by the OP applies to the moderators as well as anyone else. I have seen a good number of threads closed out with explanations fitting this topic.

 

[Tirod]

Post #10.

But mostly to suggest that nobody mentioned the search feature yet. : )

 

[badkarmamib]

I guess since I no one else wants to say this, I will. This issue brought up by the OP applies to the moderators as well as anyone else. I have seen a good number of threads closed out with explanations fitting this topic.

I have too, and there have been threads brought in, complaining and asking for explanation. Some of those threads do contain good answers, but then those 2 "armchair commandos" come in and want to take up 3 pages with bickering between themselves, the mods have to spend half an afternoon cleaning the page up, so they close it with the pertinent information left intact. If we as members would continue to work together to have HEALTHY discussions, instead of resorting to name-calling because someone disagrees with our point of view, these discourses could last longer, and we could all learn more.

I have also seen some people with authority that, as you said, seem to do the same things they will cite members for, though...

edit: corrected to reflect the fact that, as a whole, members here are well-behaved

 

[jmorris]

I was going to say what post #3 covered.

 

[Ryanxia]

I've said something to the effect of 'Post #3 has it right' but only because if you get a few different answers but 3 or 4 people are agreeing on one, gives the question asker some better insight.

 

[grampajack]

I have too, and there have been threads brought in, complaining and asking for explanation. Some of those threads do contain good answers, but then those 2 "armchair commandos" come in and want to take up 3 pages with bickering between themselves, the mods have to spend half an afternoon cleaning the page up, so they close it with the pertinent information left intact. If we as members would work together to have HEALTHY discussions, instead of resorting to name-calling because someone disagrees with our point of view, these discourses could last longer, and we could all learn more.

I have also seen some people with authority that, as you said, seem to do the same things they will cite members for, though...

It doesn't seem to hurt arfcom. Following a thread over there is like trying to walk a cat on a leash.

 

[badkarmamib]

It doesn't seem to hurt arfcom. Following a thread over there is like trying to walk a cat on a leash.

I was a member of arfcom for less than 2 weeks. That is part of the reason I lurked here so long before joining, I was worried that this would end up being more of the same. As this thread illustrates, there will always be conflict in a forum, but, this one is set apart from most of the others in that the members here, for the most part, genuinely want to help other members grow in knowledge, whereas other forums lean more toward "look at how much better I am than you".

 

[bassjam]

I guess since I no one else wants to say this, I will. This issue brought up by the OP applies to the moderators as well as anyone else. I have seen a good number of threads closed out with explanations fitting this topic.

YES 10000%!!! There's nothing worse than reading through a thread and then seeing "I think everything that needs to be said has been said. LOCKED.

The best forums I'm on only have moderators to help out with technical forum issues and they leave discussions open until they die a natural death.

 

[Panzerschwein]

I was a member of arfcom for less than 2 weeks. That is part of the reason I lurked here so long before joining, I was worried that this would end up being more of the same. As this thread illustrates, there will always be conflict in a forum, but, this one is set apart from most of the others in that the members here, for the most part, genuinely want to help other members grow in knowledge, whereas other forums lean more toward "look at how much better I am than you".

+1

Less "ego" here and more inclusion and helpfulness. I have learned so much about guns from this forum it is amazing. It seems any time I struggle, someone here can steer me back on target, both literally and figuratively.

 

[hdwhit]

grandpa jack wrote:
...trying to walk a cat on a leash.

That's easy provided you adopt the perspective that it is the cat who is walking you.

 

[Snyper]

I have also seen some people with authority that, as you said, seem to do the same things they will cite members for, though...

I've seen that a lot on more than one forum.

What you don't see is the posts that arbitrarily vanish without a trace even when no rules have been broken.

It's a shame that everyone doesn't have to follow the same rules.

 

[reddog81]

As a counter argument – I have seen threads with 20+ replies and only 1 of the posts is relevant to OP. Sometimes people incorrectly read into a question and go off on a completely unrelated tangent them 3 people start arguing over some minutiae completely irrelevant to the original question. With that said, I do agree with most of the points that others have mentioned.

 

[readyeddy]

I guess since I no one else wants to say this, I will. This issue brought up by the OP applies to the moderators as well as anyone else. I have seen a good number of threads closed out with explanations fitting this topic.

I think there's a balance that has to be struck. If the OP has a specific and direct question, and that question appears to be answered correctly and fully, then it probably should be closed. Other topics raised in the thread can be raised in a separate thread so that subject matters can be organized. I get a lot of gun related information from THR that are archived. It's basically a database whose value is largely based on organized and focused discussion.

Of course, some topics are often related and may be helpful to be bunched together. But then nobody is getting paid to write or moderate here, so we just co-exist and make the best of what we have, which is pretty special to someone like me given that I don't personally know in real life more than a handful of people that know anything about guns.

 

[jmr40]

This happens a LOT from moderators. Over the years I've seen many, many threads locked simply because someone felt the question had been adequately answered.

But to be honest that doesn't really bother me, nor does it bother me when someone quotes another post or comments that they strongly agree with post #3 etc. I know that I've done that. It isn't that I disagree with other posts, just that post #3 answered it in what I consider the best way and put it into words better than I would have. The way I see it the person who posted #3 should see it as a compliment.

 

[GBExpat]

That's easy provided you adopt the perspective that it is the cat who is walking you.

Reminds me of the time that I tried to take a friend's (large, energetic, inquisitive, excitable) Great Dane for a walk ... once.
Boy, did that reverse quickly.

 

[1976B.L.Johns.]

Can not "diss" any of the previous 47 replies to the OP. Lurked here for awhile, & joined. The reason is I find this forum not only a learning tool , but also very entertaining.

 

[.308 Norma]

Sooo, which is better, 1911 or Glock?

Sig.