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Even though the title mentions law, this is really not a legal question, but if the mods disagree they can movie it.
We all know that after the New Town, CT school mass shooting that the state of Connecticut and subsequently New York state (SAFE act) passed laws banning the sale of what they term "AR's" and as part of the new law required all residents who already possessed such firearms to register them. The registrations had dead lines for meeting these requirements, which if not met could result in confiscation, possible felony charges, fines, and jail time.
Subsequent articles published in both local and national news print media gave the actual figures of both the number of people and the number of firearms that were registered around a year after the dead-lines to comply with the new laws. Below is the best info I could gather from several news sources for both states.
Connecticut registration as of 2015
Number of individuals---27,952*
Number of "AR's"---------51,763
Estimated AR's in circulation----350,000 (data compiled from NICS data and estimates)
*note: I could not find a number of individuals, so I estimated it using the New York ratio of individuals to guns. It was 54% or roughly an average of two firearms per person. One person owning 11 easily makes up for 9 other individuals only owning 1.
Source July 2015: https://www.ctpost.com/news/article/More-than-51-000-assault-rifles-registered-in-6487021.php
New York registration under the SAFE act.
Number of individuals----23,847
Number of "AR's"----------44,485
Estimated AR's in circulation in NY state----1,000,000
Source from 2015-- http://www.nydailynews.com/news/pol...s-registry-numbers-released-article-1.2267730
Essentially, if we are to believe the estimates of the total AR's in each state, then 85% of all the "AR:s" in Connecticut were not registered and 95,5% were not registered in N.Y. as if 2015,
Using the same 54% as the number of residents this represents--yields that approximately 161,000 CT and 516,000 NY residents did not comply with the law..
I simply could not find any pertinent news or info dated later than 2015.
Most information, which talks about both the bans and registry requirement--as seen in second article--state that local and state LEO's either have not been directed to, or are not inclined to
do anything about this--not that they could anyway since they essentially have no clue who
all of the non-compliant state residents are. There are other locality reasons mentioned in the article as to why no one is being prosecuted if discovered in New York state.
Of course the people who passed these unenforceable laws don't want to talk about the massive failure of compliance which may in turn show that the registration requirement or lack to comply with it had no effect what so ever on reducing crime. New York even had to be sued under the public information laws just to get the numbers released.
Anybody feel free to assess or criticize my methodology. I threw this together pretty quickly--mostly just to show the status as of 2015. The one real wild card is the estimated totals of AR's claimed to have possibly existed in each state at the time the laws were passed. Those numbers seemed high to me, having read some some of the totals estimated for the entire country. Unfortunately, the total number that exists presently seems to be a fairly big mystery.
However, anybody here from either of those states have any more current updates on the status of those registration figures ?
We all know that after the New Town, CT school mass shooting that the state of Connecticut and subsequently New York state (SAFE act) passed laws banning the sale of what they term "AR's" and as part of the new law required all residents who already possessed such firearms to register them. The registrations had dead lines for meeting these requirements, which if not met could result in confiscation, possible felony charges, fines, and jail time.
Subsequent articles published in both local and national news print media gave the actual figures of both the number of people and the number of firearms that were registered around a year after the dead-lines to comply with the new laws. Below is the best info I could gather from several news sources for both states.
Connecticut registration as of 2015
Number of individuals---27,952*
Number of "AR's"---------51,763
Estimated AR's in circulation----350,000 (data compiled from NICS data and estimates)
*note: I could not find a number of individuals, so I estimated it using the New York ratio of individuals to guns. It was 54% or roughly an average of two firearms per person. One person owning 11 easily makes up for 9 other individuals only owning 1.
Source July 2015: https://www.ctpost.com/news/article/More-than-51-000-assault-rifles-registered-in-6487021.php
New York registration under the SAFE act.
Number of individuals----23,847
Number of "AR's"----------44,485
Estimated AR's in circulation in NY state----1,000,000
Source from 2015-- http://www.nydailynews.com/news/pol...s-registry-numbers-released-article-1.2267730
Essentially, if we are to believe the estimates of the total AR's in each state, then 85% of all the "AR:s" in Connecticut were not registered and 95,5% were not registered in N.Y. as if 2015,
Using the same 54% as the number of residents this represents--yields that approximately 161,000 CT and 516,000 NY residents did not comply with the law..
I simply could not find any pertinent news or info dated later than 2015.
Most information, which talks about both the bans and registry requirement--as seen in second article--state that local and state LEO's either have not been directed to, or are not inclined to
do anything about this--not that they could anyway since they essentially have no clue who
all of the non-compliant state residents are. There are other locality reasons mentioned in the article as to why no one is being prosecuted if discovered in New York state.
Of course the people who passed these unenforceable laws don't want to talk about the massive failure of compliance which may in turn show that the registration requirement or lack to comply with it had no effect what so ever on reducing crime. New York even had to be sued under the public information laws just to get the numbers released.
Anybody feel free to assess or criticize my methodology. I threw this together pretty quickly--mostly just to show the status as of 2015. The one real wild card is the estimated totals of AR's claimed to have possibly existed in each state at the time the laws were passed. Those numbers seemed high to me, having read some some of the totals estimated for the entire country. Unfortunately, the total number that exists presently seems to be a fairly big mystery.
However, anybody here from either of those states have any more current updates on the status of those registration figures ?