I just watched "Red Dawn" again

[M2 Carbine]

REDDAWN, on Glock Talk was the jump master, jumper and consultant on the movie. He was Airborne in the 60's but didn't jump in Vietnam. He was a jump instructor and help develop the HALO concept. He survived the accidental opening of his parachute inside and being sucked out of a C-130.

He's a good friend and in the past we talked about shooting the movie. When they were filming the jump sceens the wind was high and the jumpers were blown all over the place. Most of the stuff never made it into the movie. The local people knew what was going on and some got in the spirit. One jumper landed in a yard, pointed his AK at the home owners and they put up their hands.

The helicopters were Petroleum Helicopters Inc Pumas. My company, but I wasn't one of the pilots. With all that junk on them they were hard to fly. You might notice, they didn't do any fancy maneuvering.

REDDAWN

 

[qlajlu]

You've got to admit that the movie really made everyone think about what they might do if TSHTF. I think that the movie might have been a little unrealistic when it was made, but I'm not so sure any more.

 

[Sam]

I live down the road from Las Vegas at teh time and wen up to watch soem of the festivities. Folks up there really got into it and enjoyed having them in town.

Knew a couple of the jumpers, PJs from Kirtland. They seemed to enjoy it too.

Sam

 

[The Guy]

You know, I'm STILL waiting on the sequel!

Or a part two.

Screen play by Nightcrawler and Corriea.

Staring various semi-photogenic THR gun folks, showcasing their personal favorite firearms.

Go-go THR productions!

Anyone else game?

 

[MudPuppy]

Kind of makes you wonder. If this sort of thing were to happen, really happen, in today's world, if all the cops, armed forces, right-wing militant gun-nut types , gat-wielding gangbanger homies, good ol' boys with deer rifles, and everyone else would band together to repel the invasion?

Out of four hijacked planes on 9/11, one didn't hit it's target. It wasn't the Military, the Police, or our elected leaders that brought it down.

Similar time-frame--and almost as far fetched--but remember "V"? The alien flick where our govenment rolled over to the Chinese or Aliens from another planet or some such? We had better movies when Reagan was president!

 

[zastros]

I was 12 when I first saw the movie. I can say that my,...well, interests, started.

Lea Thompson, Jennifer Grey...


BTW it was Patrick Swayze with the single action.

zastros

 

[lawson]

one of my favorites. i was watching it the other day with my roommates, and the cynical one said what good would it do for civilians to fight against an army... i made the point that they'd die fighting for their own land (not just their country, but quite literally their homes), and if everyone did it, it would make a difference.

"all that hate's gonna burn you up, kid"

"it'll keep me warm"

 

[DoubleTapDrew]

That's been one of my favorite movies of all time. In spite of all the NFA restrictions I think that movie shows what will happen if the SHTF. You gather weapons off the dead and eventually you are equally armed.
I always bang my head when there is a movie of some dude running around killing guys with his bare hands or some garbage handgun and never takes the weapons off the enemys he's killed. Uhh yeah that guy's got a M4 but i'll stick with my Seecamp. Idjiots.
Guerilla warfare may be a bad word to the leftist media but that's how we won this country.
For the people equating it to middle east you do have to remember in the movie they were trying to take back their hometown. The same tactics probably work in other areas but if you are defending your home it's a whole different ballgame. Winner takes all and losing is not an option. That was pretty worrysome when the colonel? told them to go the sporting good stores and get the form 4473's to find out who's got guns.

 

[Langenator]

With a good knowledge of the land, they could have remained hidden. Colorado mountains are full of old mines which would keep them hidden even from thermal imagers. Now, given enough time and troops, the Sovs could have searched and sealed them all, but that would require a lot of both. And in the winter, they could use snow caves-thick enough snow will block the thermals, too.

 

[cbsbyte]

It is funny how preceptions change when one gets older. I saw the movie the first time in the late 80s at a friends house and though it was a great action film. A bit over the top but that was to be expected from a summer pop corn movie. I watched it on Tv about two years ago, and my preception of it drasticily changed . It is not a good film. It has terrible dialogue, poor acting and is brimming with overly zealous patriotic right wing nonsense. No wonder in was made in the 80s during the Reagan years. It probably was paid for by the DOD and Republicans.

 

[Noc]

M2 Carbine- Thanks for the info on the Pumas. If you look carefully, you can see the Puma's cockpit through the Hind's "cockpit" glass. I was wondering what they were...

The T-72's were also very nicely done. Comparing the all od green T-72 in the film (where the American-Soviet Friendship Center is blown) to line drawings in Weapons and Tactics of the Soviet Army reveals a very accurate rendition of the 72. The road wheels are a bit different, and the smoke launchers look a touch hokey, but everything else is pretty good. An article at Wiki even states that two CIA agents showed up on the set wanting to know where they got the tank from.

Good movie all the way around. Heavily influenced my childhood.

 

[NineseveN]

That's a fun flick, but Ndenway's story makes it even better! Good story man.

 

[kengrubb]

BTW it was Patrick Swayze with the single action.

Yep, and I believe it was a Ruger Blackhawk.

 

[kengrubb]

brimming with overly zealous patriotic right wing nonsense

Umm, almost everyone dies in the movie. Dirty Dozen and Private Ryan are about the only other war flicks I can think of where so many of the main characters are killed. You cannot seriously believe it glorifies war, can you?

It probably was paid for by the DOD and Republicans.

Written and directed by John Milius. Production companies were United Artists and Valkyrie Films.

 

[No_Brakes23]

AVENGE ME BOYZE! UH-VENGE MEEEEEEEEE!

Anyone see the South Park episode where they lampoon the AARP and parody Red Dawn? Awesome.

I was pretty excited when I found RD on DVD. It does have cheesy lines, but it is still a good story.

The Cold Dead Hands scene was good. Too bad he wasn't at slide lock.

As for the 4473 issue, I would like to think that if we were in the middle of an invasion, the FFL would burn them provided he could.

 

[M2 Carbine]

M2 Carbine- Thanks for the info on the Pumas. If you look carefully, you can see the Puma's cockpit through the Hind's "cockpit" glass. I was wondering what they were...

PHI was stuck with those Pumas under a long term lease and they were too big for many offshore platforms and VERY expensive.
We were glad to put them to work on the movie.

Later, I guess it was those two birds, crashed in the Gulf of Mexico. One went over the side from a oil drilling rig heliport, killing all aboard (19) except the co-pilot and one hand.

As I was flying (a Bell 206) I heard the pilot of the second Puma yelling Mayday as they were going down. The transmission was freezing up. The pilot, and I think, three others lived.
I don't recall if we had just those two Pumas or also a couple more.

That gives you chills.
I didn't know who it was at the time but I was flying my 206 and heard another Bell 205 (Huey) from my base go down. The tail boom broke off at about 700 feet and as the helicopter nosed over on it's back the pilot keyed the mike but didn't say anything. There were nine passengers and I heard them screaming. Everyone was killed.

Just before that I was offered the Bell 205 checkout and I refused. If I had accepted the checkout I would have been flying that ship.

 

[kengrubb]

As for the 4473 issue, I would like to think that if we were in the middle of an invasion, the FFL would burn them provided he could.

Foreign soldiers entering a gunshop? Talk about shell casings littering the floor and locked slides.

 

[danurve]

Best line in the movie: "You the honcho sport?"
Best sence: ... "Fry `em" ...

Dumb scene: I just crashed my F-15, so I'll take a nap in the same spot - yeah.

Funny thing about this movie; is not actually anything from the movie. But how literal some of you guys are about junk from hollywood, cold war era or not.

 

[Glock_10mm]

Best movie ever...probably first movie that led me to my survivalist thinking.

I also really liked Toy Soldiers!

Both shaped my younger years quite dramatically!

 

[mljdeckard]

Gol to IMDB, and look up John Milius, see everything else he has written and directed. He wrote the "Do you feel lucky?" line too. He's probably the most gun friendly guy in Hollywood.

I found myself fantasizing about where I would run to.

 

[Double Naught Spy]

I saw it for the first time about a month ago. I thought it was pretty decent, but the part about how the Russians came through the Mexican border made me chuckle. It was almost prophetic.

You mean, historic, not prophetic. Mexico invaded the US via the border more than once and the border was patrolled during both World Wars because it was known as a potential point of invasion.

 

[Panthera Tigris]

I loved the movie because the heroes were ordinary civilians like me, and not police, FBI agents, CIA, military, etc or other people that would get special permission to carry their weapons and use them in defense.

Admiral Yamamoto was the one who said there would be a gun behind every blade of grass if Japan tried to invade the U.S.

 

[Don Gwinn]

John Milius also designed "The Octagon" used in the Ultimate Fighting Championship and worked on their broadcast.

His contributions to American culture are overwhelming.

 

[Shweboner]

"If it's come so far where is Bin Ladins head?"




Sitting in an upscale apartment in New York City, awaiting the call for his next appearance

 

[joab]

I read somewhere that the single action revolver used was a family heirloom of the director's.
That gun and some others that he owned were in some other movies also.

If you want to find out what character you would be in a SHTF RD moment go here and take the quiz http://quizilla.com/users/TheGreyGhost/quizzes/Which Red Dawn Character Are You?/