I need a bolt action with a AR-15 barrel in my life.

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Interesting idea. I watched an episode of forgotten weapons last night where some guy made a 'bast ard' gun by combining a m14 and ar15. He rotated the ar15 reciever 90° and used the m14 gas system with the ar BCG. It was a straight pull, no latch system that utilized the cammed action. Of the ar bolt to lock. Was called the Fort Ellis I believe.
 
I built an AR back in the 90s with no gas system on a bet. We got into a discussion one night about whether you could open the bolt without gas. Yes, we could have just disabled the gas. I wanted a new rifle anyway, so we ordered a Shilen untapered blank and built a 27" bull. It had a standard charging handle and I just put both thumbs on the upper above the charging handle to unlock the bolt. Then it opened normally. I used it that way one prairie dog season then drilled the gas port and made it semi.
Yes, I would go for a reasonably priced straight pull or bolt system.
 
Just block, plug, or cut tube to vent into the air, or remove gas system and you have a straight pull bolt action. You would probably want an extended latch handle.
 
O would like to build a dedicated rifle. The bear creek side charge looks good. They have the bare upper for $75 and the one with the bolt and charging handle for under $120 but not in stock. I have a a2 lower that will work nice. I would pick up a hoque round handguard or simmiler.

For slow days of shooting on the cheap is what this is for, I can get 5 or 6 barrels for an At over a boltgun.
 
troy fairweather said:
O would like to build a dedicated rifle. The bear creek side charge looks good. They have the bare upper for $75 and the one with the bolt and charging handle for under $120 but not in stock. I have a a2 lower that will work nice. I would pick up a hoque round handguard or simmiler.

For slow days of shooting on the cheap is what this is for, I can get 5 or 6 barrels for an At over a boltgun.
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I used a BC side charger for my .300bo build. It was set up with an adjustable gas block, but the low noise load I ended up using wouldn't have cycled ANY gas system.

That gun got shot mostly as a straight pull, and besides the cases falling off the bolt every now and then, it did fine.
I basically quit using it once I bought my RAR tho. Imo the ARs a very good semi, but takes work to make a good manual. Tho I could see it as a slide action.
 
troy fairweather said:
was thinking, with all these good cheap ar barrels,like bcm that are from 50 to 100 bucks for most. even 224V and 6.5G. are cheap.
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I guess you gotta figure how much of the cost of a bolt rifle is in the barrel.

I can understand that it sounds good at first, but once you add in the cost of a stock, receiver, firing mechanism, and trigger group I’m thinkin’ your gonna be right where a standard factory bolt gun is
 
redneck2 said:
I guess you gotta figure how much of the cost of a bolt rifle is in the barrel.

I can understand that it sounds good at first, but once you add in the cost of a stock, receiver, firing mechanism, and trigger group I’m thinkin’ your gonna be right where a standard factory bolt gun is
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I think I could do the gun under $250, I want it so I just change the barrel the bolt and mag if needed. https://www.bearcreekarsenal.com/bc...-56-nato-pistol-length-gas-system-w-1-7-twist
https://www.bearcreekarsenal.com/bc...lackout-carbine-length-gas-system-w-1-8-twist
https://www.bearcreekarsenal.com/bc...2-x-39-carbine-length-gas-system-w-1-10-twist
https://www.bearcreekarsenal.com/bc...spc-ii-carbine-length-gas-system-w-1-10-twist
https://www.bearcreekarsenal.com/bc...-gas-system-w-1-24-twist-750-gas-block-system
https://www.bearcreekarsenal.com/bc...-length-gas-system-w-1-14-twist-875-gas-block
https://www.bearcreekarsenal.com/bc...del-type-ii-mid-length-gas-system-w-1-8-twist
Barrels are cheap.
 
Uhhh...guess I’m missing something here. You haven’t figured in the cost of any of the things I listed.

If you’re just talking about changing barrels to change calibers, there’s a place call PSA that will get you all set up
 
redneck2 said:
Uhhh...guess I’m missing something here. You haven’t figured in the cost of any of the things I listed.

If you’re just talking about changing barrels to change calibers, there’s a place call PSA that will get you all set up
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https://www.bearcreekarsenal.com/bca-flat-top-side-charging-receiver-stripped +60 more for the bcg
I have a lower to use it has the A2 stock.
A $10 steel gas block flipped to seal the port.
I would use a cheap round handguard they are 25 to 50 for a cheap one.
That's about all that's needed i will make a real list soon.
 
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Try Acme machine for a cheap forend. Also, run a bold on lo pro gas block backwards to avoid aligning the gas port and presto! The cheap ones can be had for $6 that way if you change your mind and want a semi auto just turn it around and add a gas tube.
 
adcoch1 said:
Try Acme machine for a cheap forend. Also, run a bold on lo pro gas block backwards to avoid aligning the gas port and presto! The cheap ones can be had for $6 that way if you change your mind and want a semi auto just turn it around and add a gas tube.
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i alway forget about acme. ya thats my plane with the gas block, layter i may make a sleeve on the lathe.
 
There was a company making pump action AR15's for California compliance.

A side charging upper with no gas system would work fine too. I have tried it with mine once by putting a gas block on sideways to block the port and no gas tube. It does not take much effort to eject fired cases. I also have on a few occasions with my side chargers just held my palm up against the charging handle to prevent the bolt from cycling when I don't want it to eject the case. It doesn't have as much force as you would think it would.

I'm just guessing here but I would bet in order to be legal as a straight pull AR you might have to weld the gas port shut. If it can be made semi auto by just changing a couple parts they probably will still legally consider it a semi auto.
 
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1.bca side charge receiver combo. includes the receiver,bga, charge handle. they have 223,7.62x39,6.5G bolts all are $119.90 other bolt heads can be used.
2.bca barrel, 6.5G ss 24'' H bar. $93.28. 1 moa guarantee. a 20'' ss 6.5g is 71.28 and a 22'' 224V ss barrel for $82.22
3.colt 12''match handguard. $47.99 i think a round one would be best, tho there are cheap 12 to 17'' handguards for $25 to $40
4.tf steel gas block flipped for $6.59
5. not needed i have a lower and butt stock. TF carbine stock combo with all parts. $25.
7. there maybe other thing down the road.
so total of $245.75 for a working gun.
 
I kinda like the idea. But instead of using the charging handle to cycle it, or using a side charging upper to do a straight pull, I think it'd be kinda cool if a company came up with an all new AR upper that had a traditional style bolt action with an AR-15/M16 style bolt head. I think a design like that could give you a higher capacity than typically found in a bolt action. And if it used some of those skeletonized receivers it could be a fairly light rifle and have a feel that a lot of shooters are accustomed to.
 
someguy2800 said:
There was a company making pump action AR15's for California compliance.

A side charging upper with no gas system would work fine too. I have tried it with mine once by putting a gas block on sideways to block the port and no gas tube. It does not take much effort to eject fired cases. I also have on a few occasions with my side chargers just held my palm up against the charging handle to prevent the bolt from cycling when I don't want it to eject the case. It doesn't have as much force as you would think it would.

I'm just guessing here but I would bet in order to be legal as a straight pull AR you might have to weld the gas port shut. If it can be made semi auto by just changing a couple parts they probably will still legally consider it a semi auto.
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welding the port is no big deal if it came to that.
 
KansasSasquatch said:
I kinda like the idea. But instead of using the charging handle to cycle it, or using a side charging upper to do a straight pull, I think it'd be kinda cool if a company came up with an all new AR upper that had a traditional style bolt action with an AR-15/M16 style bolt head. I think a design like that could give you a higher capacity than typically found in a bolt action. And if it used some of those skeletonized receivers it could be a fairly light rifle and have a feel that a lot of shooters are accustomed to.
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read my first post here that is what i want.
 
troy fairweather said:
read my first post here that is what i want.
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Unfortunately I can't imagine it will happen unless a smaller company just gets bored. The bigger companies will see it as too much of a niche and too much of a risk. It's ideas like this that make me wish I had access to a decent mill and lathe, and the knowledge to use them.
 
KansasSasquatch said:
Unfortunately I can't imagine it will happen unless a smaller company just gets bored. The bigger companies will see it as too much of a niche and too much of a risk. It's ideas like this that make me wish I had access to a decent mill and lathe, and the knowledge to use them.
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ya don't think anyone would make it either. i would link to figure out how to modify a normal upper and bcg.
 
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