I thought I had seen it all, Until Today's Gun show

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gadawg31

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WOW!, is all I can say. Not sure how many of feel this way, but I was blown away when I went into the gun show today in GA. I usually try to go every now and again, just to get a good laugh or to support some my local gun shops. Well, today I noticed how bad the run on ammo really has gotten. I try to reload all that I can, but 22LR really isn't practical for me. I will buy a box or two and sometimes a 500rd brick, and usually get it for a reasonable price. Today, there were at least 4 different dealers selling CCI 500rd bricks for $80.00. One table had small pistol primers for $100.00 per thousand. Unbelievable! I just laughed and walked on by, but there were probably some sucker coming up to buy them. I will always try to support local gun shops, but if they expect me to pay those prices, no way. sgammo and other online shops are still selling 5,000rd cases for $300 -$350. and 500rd bricks for roughly $30-35. Oh well, I at least got a good laugh watching all the zombie stoppers.
 
Today I had to hit a place I tend to avoid, WalMart. Since I was in there I looked at their ammunition. Nothing but shotgun and 30-30.
 
Yea, our walmart has been empty for over a month or so. Academy has started putting a limit on how many boxes you buy in one visit. I have enough stockpiled, that I can wait out this panic. I suspect it will start to settle out a little, but not sure how long it will take.
 
Around the DFW metro area, ammo is virtually nonexistent. Walmart is picked clean and Academy Sports is rationing what they do have, which isn't much. Same story for Cabelas and Bass Pro. :barf:

I sold a small amount of 9mm and .22 to some folks who had none at all just so they could try out their new guns. These days, it's smart to buy the ammo before you ever shop for the firearm to put it in.

Ron in Texas
 
I was in Walmart for my wife's libations and went to the SG counter and they had 20 round boxes of imported .45acp for my XD-S at 32 bucks a pop. Not going there. Never going there. That's it. No other brand. I think it was Mexican ammo.

Fortunately, I've got 2 Federal FMJ bulk packs and 6 boxes of my favorite JHP left. It looks like less practice is in order, darn it. This wasn't the plan.

.223 no problemo. Purhased when I saw things going downhill.
 
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Take a look at e-bay. Lee dies that sell brand new for $31.00 are going for $60.00, some dies for 7.62x39 were bid up to over $100.00.
 
My LGS is out of .22LR. They are still selling primers with a 300/customer/day limit. Price has not been raised. I appreciate them for trying to be fair with all customers and for not gouging.
 
I went to a gun show today, even got in an argument with a vendor, as he handed me an "unfired" SKS Russian from 1956 he added "see its still in cosmoline". I said "maybe you didnt fire it but its been fired, see this mark it means it has been refurbished" haha he flipped his lid when I said that LOL told me he was going to kick may ass.
I saw not one AK for under 1000, i dont bother to even waste time with the ARs.
One SKS D model, with no magazine for 900.00
2xSKS Yugo for 750.00
Saw one kid pay 600.00 for a Chinese SKS
22.00 per 20 box of 7.63x39
cheapest I saw 7.62x39 was 280 for 600 Bulgarian
I did not wait in line for 4 hours to buy ammo so I have no idea if the distributor was gouging today or not.
There were a tone of first time buyers there.
There was however tons of popcorn, jerky, cotton candy, jewelry. etc

My local LGS will get ALL of my money now, they have better deals and have better weapons.
 
I bought a case of CCI 22's for $25 a brick a few months back. I could sell it for twice that, but then what would I shoot?
 
gadawg31:

Primers were listed much lower at last week's Nashville show. An 8-lb./ jug of 3031 (?) powder was about $185.
The stickers for Large Rifle Primers stated approx. $35-40/1,000.

A private seller's excellent Russian SKS listed at $500: all-matching, and with the star and year on the bolt cover.
Not bad at all, considering that these prices were not unusual (for Memphis shows) over a year ago.

In West Little Rock last Wednesday there was Russian 7.62x39 ammo at about $9.00/box at Bullseye.
They had more than a dozen types of ammo, and the staffer told me that they limit three boxes per customer.

There were also several rifles in the AR config., but I did not check to see which types.
 
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Stopped by WM a bit ago for a new bottle of break free. Saw and bought Remington .22lr $10 for 250rd pack and some Tula .223 for $6 per 20 round boxes.

Wife will be stopping on her way home to get more.
 
I have to wonder is this ever going to end, at least with people that are price gouging it is there at some price, I too was in Academy today, stock was not as bare as it was a few weeks ago, but it was close. There was no popular handgun rounds available, they are limiting people to 3 boxes per customer, 1 box per caliber on the popular cabilbers and keeping it behind the counter (today they were out of everything behind the counter). The only handgun ammo I saw on the shelves were 10mm and 32ACP, not the most popular stuff at the best of times. There was plenty of shotgun bird/target shot, and some of the more obscure hunting rifle rounds (22-250,303 British, 7mm Mauser,etc.), but that was just about it. I bought a box of shotgun target shot and one of their 3 small boxes of 12 GA buck shot to replenish a few I had shot a couple of weeks ago. There were several people in the store that had signed up for CCW classes which require 50+ rounds of ammo counting what is used for the qualification shoot, and could not get anything that would fit their handguns anywhere in town. One couple there found a couple of boxes of 32ACP and ended up buying that because they knew someone with a 32ACP gun they could borrow for the CCW class since they could not get ammo for their .380, 9mm, or 45ACP.
 
gadawg31:

Primers were listed much lower at last week's Nashville show. An 8-lb/ jug of 3031 powder was about $185.
The stickers for Large Rifle Primers stated approx. $35-40.

A private seller's excellent Russian SKS listed at $500: all-matching, and with the star and year on the bolt cover.
Not bad at all, considering that these prices were not unusual (for Memphis shows) over a year ago.

That's because you were dealing with David who is a great guy with very fair prices. For every one of him you have 5 jerks that are overcharging.
 
I was at a gunshow last weekend and came across a guy selling cheapo ARs for 2500. He wanted 65 a peice for standard capacity glock mags. He even had soft side rifle cases labeled as "Assault Rifle Cases" and was asking 79.95 for them. These are the cases that are like 19 bucks everywhere, even at walmart. His tables had NO business, lots of people making snide remarks and he packed up early both days. Hopefully he learns a lesson.
 
I hope to save up for a few going out of business liquidation sales. On second thought, I'll stick with my favorite local shop. I've never asked for a discount but I've always gotten one, even in these tough times.
 
Those who pay top dollar for an SKS now either don't trust, or aren't aware of Gunbroker.
Yesterday they had at least ten pages of SKS rifles, and many prices were only a bit more than they were in March '08 when my search for them began.

If a seller has the better feedback, many generic SKS are a comparative steal right now for those buyers who know where the markets are.
Sure, many sellers want you to assume that these are an endangered species, even including a Tapco stock with a cheap scope etc, but many others have the 'big picture'.
 
Stop panicking

There really is no need for it. The same thing happened in 2008. Just sit back and wait for prices to come down. The last time this happened, it took almost a few years before things calmed down. I learned to shoot what I had, I started reloading and purchasing components as they came down the pipe. The hardest components were 9mm. I couldn't find anything associated with 9mm for about 1 1/2. I refused to pay the high prices. Practice with what you have. I even picked up a match pellet rifle to practice so I don't burn up too much ammunition. Keep your eyes peeled.

I did plan ahead a little bit because I was afraid this would happen. I am sitting on a reasonable hoard of ammo. It will keep me shooting at least for a few years. Just relax.
 
These days, it's smart to buy the ammo before you ever shop for the firearm to put it in.

Ron in Texas

I bought my first handgun in November 2008. All I had really decided starting out was the caliber. I had 600 rds of commercial .45ACP before I ever bought the gun. Good news, I started reloading in 2009 so I'm still sitting on it. Bad news, I paid 2008/2009 prices for it...:banghead:
 
There really is no need for it. The same thing happened in 2008. Just sit back and wait for prices to come down.

Events and the political situation is far different than 2008. For the first time in history we have a Socialist President who has publically announced that one of the center pieces of his next term is to disarm as many Americans as possible.

I had a clerk at a local Gander Mountain earlier this week tell me that when they get their ammo shipment in on Wednesday there is a long line of customers waiting at outside for the store to open and they sell out within 20-30 minutes. He stated that they are now selling out of 40 and 45 ammo which they had plenty of just a couple of weeks ago.

There are two different situations for obtaining ammunition; If you need it now pay the going inflated rate. If you can wait get on as many backorder lists as possible which will save you some bucks.
 
For the going rate and lack of availability of some rounds I think a 12 ga. would be an excellent investment for anyone currently lacking one. I've yet to see a single store out of shells for them and prices are reasonable. For those who already have one, a good trap thrower makes for a fun day at the range. If I weren't stocked with ammo I'd buy a .17, another good caliber with healthy supply on store shelves that's about as cheap as .22lr at panic prices if you can find it.

Lately, I've concentrated on purchasing hunting gear and utility items that are plentiful. Slings, bipods, blinds, scopes and muzzleloader supplies. I don't believe the shortage will last forever but it never hurts to diversify a bit.
 
My local Wal-mart is clearly hit-or-miss. Three weeks ago, they had stacks of 9mm, .45 ACP, and .40 S&W ammo -- all "range" loads, but hey -- any port in a storm...

This past Friday, I did a scouting trip, and for non-shot cartridges, if you don't have anything that fires .22-250 or .243, you're screwed. They also had an assortment of .410 and 20 gauge shot shells -- from what I could tell, all bird or target loads.


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I have to say that my local Wallmart gets 2 trucks per day, and the price is not bad at all, @ $25 bucks for 45-"50" rounds, $26 for 100 round box of Rem 9mm.And 4 and change for 00buck, when the boxes of 25 are in stock tey are under $20.The only thing I haven't seen is 40 caliber, "I am not even shooting my 40 till I know I can replace the few hundred rounds I have. And 223, I got lucky and picked up 60 rounds of that for $36, 12 a box.
Now the trick is that they put out the ammo at various times during day, annd 15 minutes after it's gone.
My sales people at the ammo counter have told me to come in as close to closing as possible, because they restock for the following morning. We went back at 8:30 PM, and I got more 9mm and 00buck, earlier that same day there was nothing.
Also I picked up those Thermomold mags from Classic and they seem to bo ok. I now have 7, so I can relax on that front, most are Pmags, but for 18 dollars they were worth the insurance policy just to have another 2. If they work I will buy more.Also got 2, 20's from my landscaper for 10 bucks each,you have got to ask folks who shoot a lot, they always seem to have a source someware.
 
Agreed on the 20 and 12g shotguns. Still plenty of ammo available and a $300 trap thrower is a great investment for getting kids and non-shooters involved. Both also make fine HD weapons if, somewhere down the road, ammo for your sidearm is not available.

On The Big Bang Theory Ms. Cooper explains how her church shoots skeet. You write your sins on a clay pigeon and then blast them to smithereens with a 12g shotgun.
 
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