i want a new glock. 40 s&w or maybe a .45acp

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i have a glock 19 for years and love it. but i want another glock and would rather a different cal.

what advantages the .40 s&w have over the 9mm? and i would also consider a glock in .45acp.

this new glock would be used for ccw.

im headed over to youtube to check out ballistics gel test. whats the more popular defensive load for .40 s&w and .45acp?
 
I carry a Glock 29 in 10mm (same size as 45). I used to carry the 27 in .40. S&w. There is a world of difference in the size of the two. If u are a smaller person or really worried about the gun printing, the .40, 9mm are the way to go. They are also different in recoil as well, but I find the 10 with its added weight and size just as easy, maybe easier to follow up with, due to the snappy recoil of the .40 in the smaller gun. Both are very accurate.
As far as 9 vs 40, I prefer the 40, obviously the guns are the same size and both are proven. If u don't care about the size difference the 45 and 10mm guns though are going to perform better ballistically.
 
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It all depends what you want/need the gun to do for you, as a good case can be made for nearly anything.

I would not get a 23, 27, or even 22, as they essentially fill the same niche as the 19.

If looking at .40, I'd get a 35. Very versatile in a number of venues.

.45 would be the 21-SF, possibly a 30-SF, depending on particular needs/desires.

A case has already been made for the 10mm. My role for it is as a woods gun, so I'd choose the 20-SF.

You need to define the mission better.
 
I have a Glock 23.
And several .45 ACP 1911's and S&W revolvers.

Both my 40 something sons refuse to shoot free ammo in my .40 due to the sharp muzzle blast.

They will both deplete my supply of 9mm & .45 ACP ammo every chance they get.

The difference in muzzle blast between the 21,000 PSI .45 in a 5" barrel, and 35,000 PSI .40 in a 4" barrel is quite noticeable.

rc
 
The G27 & G26 conceal easly enough with the right holster, and the G30s has about the same length grip as them, with the 9 round magazine. The G30s does have a fatter grip than the G26 & G27, but it does not bother me when I carry IWB. I never minded the recoil of the 40 cal, but I'm biased because my work forces me to like the 40 cal. As far as advantages of 40 vs 9mm, 40s&w knocks down steel plates with more authority. The difference on soft targets is up for debate. Since you are looking for a carry gun, what does the G19 lack for you. Are you looking for a smaller glock (G27/G26), or one the same size in a different caliber (G23)
 
Both are great and both cover a lot of ground. The .40 is on the smaller frame, same size gun as the 9mm but the .45 is on the larger frame, which may or may not make a difference to you. I slightly prefer the smaller 9mm/.40 framed Glocks but the larger ones aren't bad at all.

Since you mentioned CCW, the .40 Glocks are noticeably thinner in the grip than the larger framed .45's. My CCW Glocks are the 27, 23 and 30. They all shoot great but the 30 feels much fatter, because it is. It still carries well and shoots great, but overall I prefer the 27 or 23.

Power wise, to me it's a toss up between the two as both can cover anything anyone would use a Glock for.
 
I've come around to the .40 in the right gun at the right time. It's snappy, but does offer a few advantages.

I had a Glock 21that I regret letting go. 13 rounds of .45 in a dead nuts reliable package. I gave it up because I just shoot a 1911 so much better, but the 21 was the least picky firearm I have ever owned in .45 apc.

I really like my fns-40, but a .45 Glock is on my short list.
 
Glocks I own:
17L, 19, 20SF, 21, 21SF, 23, 23, 26, 30, 30SF, 36

The 23s are equipped with .357Sig and 9mm conversion barrels, and are the most versatile.

The 26 and 36 get the most carry time, but if I were not in snake country, the 36 would lose out. I carry it with two rounds of snakeshot first up.

The 30 and 30SF are incredible shooters, the 26 is even more accurate and quite a bit faster.
 
.40 Fully Supported Chamber

I have the 30s and love it. I'm also a fan of the .40 round, and have 2 Springfield Armory's in that caliber. One of the things you should know is that some or all of Glock's .40's do not have fully supported chambers, so if you're going to shoot reloads or some +P ammo such as Buffalo Bore (they write about this on their web site), you'll need to replace the barrel at a cost of approximately $200 to $225. I love the 23, and that's the only thing stopping me from getting one now, that I'd have to invest additional money into it to shoot the SD ammo I use.
 
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I believe the chamber support problem in the .40's and 10mms was rectified several years ago. All gen 4s and late gen 3s should have no problems in that area.

A G23 would go well with your G19, I load 180gr pills to 940 fps in mine for practice, and the recoil is relatively sedate. I have to say though, my dad's G21 is the softest shooting, most accurate combat style .45 I have ever shot, if I was interested it loading .45 that would be the first pistol on my list.
 
My input.....

I picked up a police trade in Glock 21 .45acp gen 04 about 2mo ago. It's decent & has factory new green night sights. ;)
I may add a few Ti parts, a new after market take-down lever(the Glock part is awful :mad: ) & get the upper treated with Metalife. The newer Glocks no longer have the "tennifer" surface & my 21/gen 04 gets a weird white-grey color on it. The discoloration wipes off quickly but it's annoying, :rolleyes: .
My 2 Smith & Wesson M&Ps never had those problems. The Tango Down Glock parts(mag release & Vickers designed slide release) are worth a look.

If you want a good Glock for CCW, Id look at a Glock 27 gen 04 or the larger Glock 23 gen 03 or gen 04. With these .40S&Ws you can quickly convert either model to a 9x19mm, .357sig with after market barrels. There are many custom parts & holsters for these Glocks too. I'd add Trijicon HD night sights too. ;)
The .40 or .357sig is great for CCW and can defend you.

For add ons or custom work see: www.customizeyourglock.com www.glockstore.com www.glockworx.com www.glockmeister.com www.glockbooks.com www.natchezss.com www.safariland.com www.blackhawk.com www.wrightleatherworks.com www.highnoonholsters.com www.tangodown.com .
 
There are no bad choices so far.

I'd suggest either the G-20 or G-29 in 10mm. The G-29 will be slightly thicker, but slightly smaller in all other dimensions than the G-23. A G-20 is identical in size to a G-21 in 45 ACP.

The 10mm is the only cartridge that offers any real advantage over 9mm, 40 or 45ACP. With lighter loadings it is essentially a 40, with the best loadings you can beat the hottest 357 mag loadings and come closer to 44 mag than most realize. In guns of comparable size. The magnum revolver rounds are in a different league from 6"-8" barrels, but when fired from 3"-4" revolver barrels are much closer to 10mm when fired from 4"-4.5" semi barrel.
 
I have two guns for CCW a Glock 27 (40 S&W) and a SA Loaded (45 automatic). The Glock is my choice for personal carry and the SA Loaded is my car or travel gun. My position on caliber is simple - pick a hand gun caliber .40" or above.......... OR the largest caliber you can shoot well. Gelatin results are informative but also go see how a cartridge reacts to shooting all sorts of other stuff like old cars, refrigerators, wood boards, etc. I found that the larger calibers with heavier bullets do inflict more damage and obtain deeper penetration.
 
what advantages the .40 s&w have over the 9mm?

None. Advances in bullet design has made the slightly larger 40 a dead issue. In fact many agencies including the FBI have or are considering going back to 9mm.

and i would also consider a glock in .45acp.

This should not need any further discussion. Lot bigger bullet and gun.[/QUOTE]
 
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