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I wanted to point out that it is not just the anti gun crowd we have to worry about.

Discussion in 'General Gun Discussions' started by jrdolall, Dec 30, 2012.

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  1. JVaughn

    JVaughn Member

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    +1 76, Isn't that really what it is all about? As long as we are armed too, they can't run us over. Everyone on this forum, everyone who owns a gun, everyone who shoots, everyone who has any knowledge of history should shout at the top of their lungs: "from my cold dead hand!"
     
  2. Rail Driver

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    You all can do what you want - If this legislation actually passes, I know I won't be registering anything, consequences or not. The 2nd Amendment doesn't say "A well regulated militia being necessary to the security of a free state, the right of the people to keep and bear arms shall not be infringed unless your elected officials decide to disarm you and/or regulate what you can and cannot own, shoot, possess or use"

    It's SO frustrating to see SO many "pro-gun" people together in one place that are perfectly fine with how things are now, much less accepting of further infringements.

    Don't get me wrong, I'm a law abiding citizen and all that, but some things are over the line, and removing my ability to protect my family and myself as efficiently as possible is WAY over the line. As it is, (most of) the states infringe on our right by requiring us to PAY a FEE in order to exercise our second amendment right to bear arms, and while I paid that fee, I am NOT ok with it. I paid that fee under threat of losing my freedom if I'm caught exercising that right without their $100+ permission slip. That's coercion.

    They said similar things in Australia, then pretty much everyone meekly handed over everything they had when the government thugs came to collect. My heart breaks to say it, but that's most likely how it's going to go down here, and it disgusts me.
     
  3. XD Fan

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    I am a HS teacher. I work with fairly conservative colleagues (e.g. many shooters and RKBA activists on our staff). We serve a very conservative community. And yet, I see my students becoming more and more liberal (not just in relationship to RKBA). We could argue the relative merits of conservatism vs. liberalism all day long,but it seems unquestionable to me that we are seeing a cultural shift even in locations that are bastions of conservatism.

    I say this to suggest that the main problem is not schools because the shift is happening even where schools are conservative. I feel like the bigger problem is the media and the entertainment industry. To me, seems this is where many Fudds develop there loose stance on RKBA. This is the thing where must be concerned about. It goes everywhere.
     
  4. Mr.Davis

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    Just point out the 2004 vote by Biden, Kerry, Feinstein, and others to ban the .30-30 cartridge because it penetrates soft body armor. It's no slippery slope. They've already branded centerfire rifle cartridges as "cop killers" and will come for hunting rifles next.
     
  5. billymarr

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    On the point of wives changing attitudes.
    I had been on the fence about buying a Modern Sporting Rifle. After 10+ years humping and M16 in its various versions. I really did not want one. Then Sandy Hook.
    My wife and I were talking and I mentioned my interest in a MSR. She asked why and I told her due to all the talk about a ban and that I do not like the idea of some one telling me what I can or can not own. Spent enough time protecting there right to have different views but not to take things from us.
    So on the 22nd we had finished up shopping and are on the way home. She pulls in to a new LGS I was surprised. We walk in and check things out they had nothing but 2 custom ARs and a Saiga 308. I was looking at the Saiga and before I knew it she said buy it.
    Her point was I also will not have some one telling us what we can or can not own. She in the past saw no use for AR/AK. She is from Germany. Has been a US citizen for 20 years. She learned in school what can happen when we let others dictate our thoughts and actions. She is probably the most American person I know.
    We need to stand our ground and show resolve in stopping any rights being taken. Not only for gun control but any thing that limit's our choices on how we live our life.
     
  6. jrdolall

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    Schools, HS and college, have been bastions of Liberalism since the 60s and maybe before that but the liberal slant that the media has does much more harm than do teachers. Got any kids in HS? You think they respect their teacher's opinions? Not really very much. They do however watch TV.
     
  7. PaisteMage

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    This is the place where as a group we should all collectively work together. I may not LIKE a glock but banning them only puts the odds in the oppressors favor. If we are LITERALLY outgunned and are TOLD what interpretation of the 2nd amendment is the best, then we lost. The founders left things vague so that the rights encompass a broad group of people.


    What I am saying is that when our voices are stifled and people have been duped to believe they need Big Brother in every aspect of their lives we need to rally as AMERICANS to make our voice heard.

    I don't care if your a democrat, republican, libertarian...anything. I would fight right along side you if it meant the safety of our country and our respective families. If that fight is conquering legislative aggression. , let's do it.
     
  8. Sniper66

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    Yes, we are in for the fight of our lives. We have many enemies and the most frightening one is willful ignorance. I encourage you to read Thomas Sowell's recent editorial on that subject. We are surrounded by people who willingly stick their heads in the sand when the government signs into law new regulations that do not immediately affect them personally.
     
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