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I was detained at school today (Aug 29 2007)

Discussion in 'General Gun Discussions' started by AJAX22, Sep 5, 2007.

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  1. AJAX22

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    I appologize if this is in the wrong section, but since it concerns the viewing of online RKBA pro 2A sites I though I'd post this here.

    This occured a week ago... and one of the other members of calguns.net sugested that I cross post this over here to keep you guys informed on what was/is going on. THR is another site that I regularly view from school.

    the full thread is viewable here:

    http://www.calguns.net/calgunforum/showthread.php?t=67652

     
  2. AJAX22

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    And a followup post

     
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    and after some more replies another followup post

     
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    and another followup post

     
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  6. buzz_knox

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    It won't be long until you can be held on suspicion of committing a thought crime.

    Actually, I think you just were. It'd be nice to find out who filed the false police report (I think a report that is wrong on all material terms fits the definition nicely).
     
  7. fletcher

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    Definitely sounds like no fun, but at least they didn't press the subject after they clearly determined it was a misunderstanding.

    I'm sure there's some provision under a "hate crime" law somewhere that allows that.
     
  8. SoCalShooter

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    That's for me to know and not you!
    Is it possible to request that they wait until you have the facesheet in your hands?
     
  9. brerrabbit

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    Me, I would be more concerned about the lack of a warrant.
     
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    I believe that's only if you're actually charged with something. Even then, the "accuser" could be the state, and he wouldn't get to see the now-anonymous tipster.
     
  11. buzz_knox

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    Hate crime charges usually require predicate offenses. They punish the state of mind you have while committing another crime. The idea is that if we deter murders, assaults, etc by tacking on an extra 5 years for having a bad attitude while committing the crime.

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    The right to face one's accusers tends to be restricted to court proceedings. "Anonymous" tips and complaints are all too common. The desire to promote LEO involvement versus self-help (or just letting things go) is perceived to outweigh the concern about false charges.
     
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    Sounds to me that someone saw you on the gun board and decided that you were the next Cho in waiting. People ought to mind their own business.

    You also stated an apology to the cops????? Why would you do this? You did nothing wrong, they owe you an apology.

    And as an aside why does anything a person says on an internet forum mean anything in the real world? why should authorities be able to use this against you?
     
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    It sounds like you were astoundingly coolheaded about the whole thing. Kudos for that. I don't think I would've consented to the search of my person had i been in your situation, but I also don't mean to second-guess you. All things considered, things coul have been much, much worse.

    I look forward to hearing how all this plays out. Maybe you'll be able to afford to buy a few new defensive weapons after the dust settles. :D
     
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    It is refreshing to hear they were polite and couteous to you during the entire incident. I am willing to bet (I offer this from first hand experience) they were thinking what a bunch of BS the entire call was, but if the call was not handled sufficiently and soemthing happened they would be getting BS'd (butt screwed) at a later date.
     
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    I thought I might have seen it, but to be ont he sae side I would definitely reinterate having at least one lawyer handy for this mess.
     
  16. Blackfork

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    Good Grief.

    Sounds like you did everything right. What a crazy world.
     
  17. CountGlockula

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    I can't wait to see how this unfolds.
     
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    as a fellow college student, I feel your pain. I have as of late been very careful how my laptop screen is facing when checking out THR at school. But then again its well known on campus that I am the president of the 2nd Amendment Society so that has gotten me enough interesting looks and comments.
     
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    Looks like you might have the makings of a civil suit with the PD if they can't get you a copy of the warrant. Go to the court that issued it and ask for a copy.

    As for the accuser, you are legally entitled to know who is accusing you of such a crime (it's called facing your accuser). Find out who it is and then you might have a case for defamation of character. The police report should note who the accuser is.

    Good luck!
     
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    Hello Judge whatchamacallit... This is officer sosandso over at the University... We have a non-disruptive individual we are detaining that won't cooperate and give us consent to search his bag, therefor he is obviously hiding "something" so that should constitute probable cause for a search.

    Oh, one more thing your honor, we are basing our investigation on the word of another student that thought they saw something relating to firearms on a computer screen and was fearful over it, even though firearms are perfectly legal..

    Thanks in advance for the Tele-Warrant Your Honor!!


    Let the good times roll, Warrants for everybody!!

    Without Police bashing, anyone know the ratio of warrants issued vs warrants denied?
     
  21. MrTuffPaws

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    Ha. Try anti-terror laws.
     
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    In a decade or 2, this is how it will be in many other places.
     
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    Wow, what a crazy situation...Thank you for being polite and courteous about the whole thing, it makes us look better.

    I'm glad to hear the cops were polite as well. As stated earlier, I'm sure they were thinking this was a crock as well, but they had to it to cover their own butts in case you were the "next cho."
     
  24. Loucks

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    Not in Indiana. We don't have hate crimes here, as I understand it.
     
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    No idea, but I would assume so. Taking an LEO's word for it is never a wise thing. Anyone know the details on telephonic warrants?
     
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