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i live in the country in md. near the pa. line (Amish Country). we have a few gas and goes around here and i have 2 sons 23 and 16 who are very good with firearms but i would never let them work in a place like that. if you have to stay at that job i would suggest working with someone who can carry a hand gun. in Maryland the (NAZI STATE) we are'nt smart enough to care guns we have to wait for the police to show up. (DONT EVER LET TEXAS TAKE YOUR RIGHTS AWAY!). Be Safe.
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don't know if this is an option, but a high-power fire-hose? That's sure to...discombobulate someone.
Also, it may sound silly, but a .44 Walker BP revolver might work, if you loaded it with paper cartridges. There was a thread in BP a while back about paper cartridges. Don't know what you would do to keep it dry and in functioning condition (I picked the Walker because of power, there are certainly other BPs out there, including cheap-ish Armys, and the ever-useful LeMat)
 
a 1 inch diameter oak dowel cut down to 22 inches and read the stick fighting chapter in john styers' "cold steel".
 
A tee ball bat goes for a couple bucks at the secondhand store. Light and handy. Be ready to run, though- for what they pay you don't automatically fight for someone else's money.
 
Speaking of the Kimber Lifeact Guardian Angels; has anyone actually used - fired - one of these?

What is the trigger action like; heavy, light, long, trigger reset .. etc?

I am fully familiar with all the specs and product info; but what actually "happens" when they are discharged; "pop"? "Crack" fizz? Etc.

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Box cutter with a retractable blade kept in one of those grocery store stocker sheaths. Usefull tool for opening boxes in the store, quick and nasty surface gasher if someone grabs you, easy to defend using it as most likely seen as not lethal per my opinion and understanding (I'm not an expert, I'm not a lawyer, I'm just a guy on the web).

The dowel is a nice idea, as is one of those souvenier mini-bats given out at some ball games. Looks cute, stings like h3ll when whacked with it. Just used to surprise and to give you a chance to escape or break free. Pick up a copy of the movie The Grifters (I think that's it) and watch what the bartender does to the scammer when the scammer tries to flip a bill on him.

There was a mention on the local TV news here last night about a local C-store clerk who'd been robbed twice already. He got a new job in a safer area. A local cop was driving past and happened to notice someone in the parking lot pulling a ski mask over their face who also had a gun in their hand. By the time the officer got turned around and into the parking lot the suspect was gone, but at least the clerk didn't get robbed again.

Cameras in the store with a note that the footage is viewed on-line at a separate location could be a deterrant. Cameras outside the store so there is no place for the bad guys to prepare without being seen is another good option.

Defend and survive.
 
alwilliam did a nice hands-on review if the Lifeact in this thread.

As has been said, it's your employer's money/property and there's no reason to defend it. Flight is preferable to fight in this case, but be prepared to protect/defend your life. Remember that you're surrounded by tools if you just look at the things around you a little differently.
 
What about a pot of hot coffee with a handfull of sugar in it behind you? Throw that at someone and the hot liquid sticks. Even if you miss anyone with half a brain will duck and panic. That might give you a few more seconds to make a tactical withdrawal ie run away at speed.
 
you could get one of those small fire extinguishers they put in cars etc. i hear that stuff is cold...
 
You must be talking about working down on the drag? I have heard the bum's down there are getting more and more aggressive everyday.

Security won't help either...witness a fight break out, pretty ugly, and someone ran into a nearby store where an off-duty but uniformed LEO was moonlighting asking for help. He said he couldn't leave the store and told them to call 911. :confused:

Get another job I am assuming it pays minimum wage or not much over anyhow? Get a job at one of the fast food places nearby, or the movie store.

for everyone that doesn't live here "the drag" is the strip just in front of the University of Texas at Austin campus.
 
just keep the broom near you... broom = best makeshift weapon ive ever seen / had to use.

if it doesnt break you have an amazing staff... if it does you have a spear. win win bud

PLUS no-one can say anything about you always having the broom with you... except that maybe your in need of a raise
 
Not long ago, I spoke with a young man in a similar situation to yours. He kept a large crescent wrench behind the counter for "emergency situations". I would add that a small fire extinguisher could prove useful as well. Not only can it discharge chemicals into an attacker's face, but it can be used as an impact weapon also.

These are last ditch senarios though. I recommend finding a different job or beating a retreat if possible. Only fight when you have no other option. Good luck.


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Become an Aggie and move to College Station. Much better town...

I don't think you can become an Aggie, it's more an affliction that strikes when you least expect it. It is curable, but you have to catch it early. Once the phrase "Squeeze Ags" is used, it's too late. :neener:
 
I don't think you can become an Aggie, it's more an affliction that strikes when you least expect it. It is curable, but you have to catch it early. Once the phrase "Squeeze Ags" is used, it's too late.

All true, I suppose, but I never really wanted a cure. :D I still bow to College Station three times a day in my prayers.

Saw Varsity's horns off.....amen....:D
 
It seems that a firearm is out. I would keep a baseball bat behind the counter. You just never know when you need to smash a twinky or hit a ball thrown at you. Frankly, I'd get a different job. They don't pay you to die for them.
 
Look at your situation the best thing is several containers of mace. I recommend heat brand products, they have ones that look like simple flashlights, and test cartridges so you can practice firing them.

Back when I was stupid, I was robbed at gunpoint in LA, and I fired my pepperspray keyring without thinking. The suspect immediately hit the ground screaming in the most pain I've ever heard, at which point I kicked his firearm, emptied it and called the police.

It was probably really dumb, but pepper spray works really, really well.

A while back a major network did a test of the most effective self defense weapons, tasers, pepper spray, and even a dummy firearm ringed with paint.

Of all the weapons the only one that protected the victim in the fake attack was the pepper spray. The attacker safely disarmed the victim everytime especially with the gun, because people hesitate to use it, and it was always recognizable.

If someone robs your work odds are they are going to do it with a gun, and be 3 feet away. I don't see you doing very good with a knife, and not getting shot, it takes a long time for somebody with a knife wound to go into shock, or bleed out, and you'll only make them angry.

With mace (heat brand) on your keychain it looks like a little flashlight on the ring of your keys, which you can simply say you need the your keys to open the register...

Also having several containers of pepper spray (they even make a pepper spray ring, but I don't know if it shoots far enough), + a bat is a great combo, because after spraying, you can attack with the bat to get the weapon out of his hands.

Honestly though if you don't think you are going to die, I'd just give them the money, it's not your store...

In 1998 in California a bank robber with a ak47 was foiled when a teller sprayed him with pepper spray. He ended up on the ground, and fired some shots in the air because his finger was on the trigger, but immediately dropped the weapon and surrendered.

Pepper spray is NASTY stuff, it won't kill, but the right spray will totally stop someone, they won't even be able to think. I won't encourage you to spray yourself, but I sprayed some outside, near me, and it never touched me but I was in horrible blinding pain, and the smell made it so I couldn't breath. I can't imagine actually getting it in the face, it has to be horrible, just being 3 feet from where I sprayed it was enough that I'll never test spray a real canister again.
 
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