If you were to make a pro-gun movie....
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Blackbeard
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It has to appeal to women especially. If it shows the consequences of being disarmed, it won't have a happy ending.
hankdatank1362
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Why bother? There's already enough zombie movies made. They're perfect.
Ragnar Danneskjold
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I would write a movie that has nothing to do with guns or shooting at all. Maybe a romantic comedy or family movie. But I would have 1 or more of the main characters just be gun owners. There would be no shooting, no robbery/rape scene. The gun wouldn't even come into play. But I would make it known that the person owns a gun and CCWs. That's it. I would just make it as normal as a person having a smoke detectors in their house.
And it would have Denzel Washington.
And it would have Denzel Washington.
Kind of Blued
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I like the romantic comedy idea, seriously.
It needs to have at least a few zombies though.
It needs to have at least a few zombies though.
The problem with zombie movies is that they're so far-fetched that people mostly just go for the bloodbath and gore effects. I've never met, conversed with, or heard of any moviegoer who leaves the theater afterwards with any serious thoughts of gun ownership or the second amendment.
As was mentioned before, you'd have to show the consequences of being disarmed, and if you did it right you'd probably have people squirming and leaving the show - because alas, bad things happen to victims, and you'd likely need to be fairly graphic to get the point across. You'd also start all kinds of snowballing nightmares with the media about 'gun people' and 'obsession with violence' and all manner of pseudo-psychological BS. You'd probably get apologists for the anti crowd claiming the measures taken 'just weren't done properly'.
Unfortunately, the world is awash in stupity. Presuming you could make the perfect pro-gun movie, most critics would likely pass it off as propaganda of the lowest kind.
It may be possible to convert a few antis through film or television, but I doubt it could be done as a movie. A pseudo-documentary perhaps...but an 'entertainment' movie might be a stretch.
That is, of course, only my opinion. Your mileage may vary.
As was mentioned before, you'd have to show the consequences of being disarmed, and if you did it right you'd probably have people squirming and leaving the show - because alas, bad things happen to victims, and you'd likely need to be fairly graphic to get the point across. You'd also start all kinds of snowballing nightmares with the media about 'gun people' and 'obsession with violence' and all manner of pseudo-psychological BS. You'd probably get apologists for the anti crowd claiming the measures taken 'just weren't done properly'.
Unfortunately, the world is awash in stupity. Presuming you could make the perfect pro-gun movie, most critics would likely pass it off as propaganda of the lowest kind.
It may be possible to convert a few antis through film or television, but I doubt it could be done as a movie. A pseudo-documentary perhaps...but an 'entertainment' movie might be a stretch.
That is, of course, only my opinion. Your mileage may vary.
Gunnerpalace
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In my movie it would not be blatant pro-gun but undertone's, like a good guy US Marshal on a guys trail and someone makes a uninformed statement (crooks use 10,000.00 guns), usually a other agent, he just does a quick concise and accurate rebuttal.
It's my take on a US Marshal, lots of gun play, I'll update when I have a screenplay going.
It's my take on a US Marshal, lots of gun play, I'll update when I have a screenplay going.
Gator
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Red Dawn!
"Go to the local sporting goods store and collect all the Forms 4473. These will contain a description of all the local firearms, and the name and address of the owners."
"Go to the local sporting goods store and collect all the Forms 4473. These will contain a description of all the local firearms, and the name and address of the owners."
Seancass
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I was watching How I Met Your Mother on CBS a few weeks ago. The hot, not married female character had a bunch of hippy guests in her house who wouldnt leave. She asked nicely, then got fed up, walked back into her bed room and pulled a HUGE pistol out of her night stand and walked back out into the other room. All the hippies went from ignoring her to "allright, geez, crazy Amerians" and they left. I was laughing histarically. It was completely out of the blue, she's in New York.
As mentioned, i think it is better when the guns are a small part of the character, not the theme. Like they are for most of us. 99% of the biggest events in our lives will hopefully have very little to do with guns, if you know what i mean.
As mentioned, i think it is better when the guns are a small part of the character, not the theme. Like they are for most of us. 99% of the biggest events in our lives will hopefully have very little to do with guns, if you know what i mean.
Deanimator
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I'd just tell the story of the recent massacre of the Connecticut(?) doctor's family exactly as it happened... except at the end, he'd have a 4" Model 10 S&W with which he'd kill both criminals before his family died.
No doubt it would be considered too one-sided against rapists, murderers and arsonists, as was the movie "The Great Raid" recently considered too one-sided against murderous Japanese soldiers.
No doubt it would be considered too one-sided against rapists, murderers and arsonists, as was the movie "The Great Raid" recently considered too one-sided against murderous Japanese soldiers.
Joe Demko
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I'd go with a romantic comedy about two attractive young people on the Olympic shooting team. Maybe make one of them a competitor in one of the pistol events and the other a shotgunner...The shooting then becomes organic to the plot without the necessity of violence. You also get the big emotional payoff at the end when they not only are in love with each other but win gold medals. The shooting events can be filmed to deliver dramatic tension using the same scripting and cinematic techniques that have been used to make golf, poker,and so on "exciting" for many years in about a million different movies.
As for who should star? I don't know. Who are two sexy, funny young people who are popular right now?
As for who should star? I don't know. Who are two sexy, funny young people who are popular right now?
RKBABob
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The prefect pro-gun movie has already been made:
The Brave One
Seriously, I heard a few people leaving the theater talking about how they are "thinking of buying a gun after seeing that."
The Brave One
Seriously, I heard a few people leaving the theater talking about how they are "thinking of buying a gun after seeing that."
i would like to see a story about an amature pistol competetor, maybe IDPA. he also has a CCW. he is on the way to a match, travelling through hostile/lawless area, and he has to defend his family and himself. even though he is way outnumbered, his superior training and skills allows him to prevail. he would be well armed, have loads of ammo for the match, and have a couple of cute kids, a cool dog, and a beautiful wife. he manages to make it to the match and still manages to come in second behind rob latham.
beaucoup ammo
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1st I'd require a macro star of International A-List Popularity so the CCW would be more apt to be accepted. 2nd, as mentioned, carrying would be down played but obvious..as normal as eating breakfast or getting the paper. Far from being the focus of the plot.
Then, all you need is any number of scenarios to make CCW not just acceptable but the smart thing to do: A gun in the night stand when a break in occurs at 3AM. Woman attacked in parking garage, handicapped in a wheelchair..you get the idea.
I'd cherry pick only the best writers, director, etc. The climactic scene would point out "not carrying is the most stupid thing in the world." Essentially showcasing a rationale even the most hardened Brady advocate would be hard pressed to argue with.
Then, all you need is any number of scenarios to make CCW not just acceptable but the smart thing to do: A gun in the night stand when a break in occurs at 3AM. Woman attacked in parking garage, handicapped in a wheelchair..you get the idea.
I'd cherry pick only the best writers, director, etc. The climactic scene would point out "not carrying is the most stupid thing in the world." Essentially showcasing a rationale even the most hardened Brady advocate would be hard pressed to argue with.
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Now THAT sounds like a great idea.
CountGlockula
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The plot would be anything anti-Brady. Nuff said.
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Rembrandt
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I'd go with a "Sargeant York" type senario.....maybe a Quaker character that faces the moral conflict of their beliefs against the reality of a violent society that cares nothing about morals. Would also need to show the ineffectiveness of the legal system and courts to protect citizens. Main character is faced with defending their children-vs-their faith...not more than one or two shots fired to resolve the conflict.
Actors would need to be a wimpy milk-toast weakling types that illustrates how firerams equal the playing field.
Actors would need to be a wimpy milk-toast weakling types that illustrates how firerams equal the playing field.
Gordon Fink
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It seems like legalized concealed carry should be fertile ground for many action-movie scenarios. The heroes could be much more diverse than the usual bunch of cops or soldiers. I can only assume that it hasn’t happened yet because the industry is based in California and New York.
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how about a movie featuring a normal, everyday kind of person, who just happens to hunt and shoot for the enjoyment of it. no need for self defense to even be a part of it.
maybe show the character taking a safety class and participating in a few different shooting activities. plate shooting would be a good one. no SD overtones for the PC crazed crowd to get offended by, and the sound of the bullet hitting the plate is quite satisfying.
or maybe some plinking. aluminum cans make effective targets.
maybe show the character taking a safety class and participating in a few different shooting activities. plate shooting would be a good one. no SD overtones for the PC crazed crowd to get offended by, and the sound of the bullet hitting the plate is quite satisfying.
or maybe some plinking. aluminum cans make effective targets.
Joe Demko
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I agree. One of the things that we need to do is convince the undecideds that we (and guns) are not all about violence, either defensive or offensive. It'll go a lot farther towards convincing the fence sitters that gun owners are just normal people if they are shown doing the things that we do for fun, like target shooting. Hunting is enough of a hot button issue in itself that I don't know if it would be a good idea to depict characters doing it.
Also, unless the story is about competing target shooters, as I suggested above, or something similar it would also be a heck of a good idea not to present guns as the central, defining aspect of the character(s).
Here's another idea for a comedy, though not as good as the one I came up with in my previous post: A humorous story about some likable rednecks (think of Larry the Cable Guy et. al. from Blue Collar Comedy Tour) coming to humorous conflict with a real estate development corporation that wants the land on which their Sportsman's Club sits. Americans love those guys and hate Big Corporations. Soft peddle the gun part. Show them and their families having a good time shooting skeet and such, but don't make it the central point. Use it to establish what they do at the club and why they are so attached to it. Concentrate on the (non-gun) hijinks as our lovable good ol' boys foil those greedy suits.
Rembrandt said:
Here's the quick and dirty way to make masses of people 'pro-gun'.
You'd want to make people very afraid of an outside force, a force that could invade at any moment and that no one will be able to protect you from - it will be just you and your firearm, and without it you're lost, and your family is lost. And did we mention ammo is already selling out so you better go buy all you can!
So, Red Dawn it is then?
highorder
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I thought the same thing. People love to see believeable actors as "Joe every-man" deal with situations, because then they can see thru their eyes. the only thing is, there are a scant few leading actors that can play the normal guy. Tom Hanks, Harrison Ford, Ed Harris, William Fichtner, Michael Keaton, and a few others that escape me at the moment are great normal guys...
guys like Clooney and Pitt, Billy Bob Thorton, Kurt Russel, all seem too "hollywood" to me to be beileves as normal guys.
SamTuckerMTNMAN
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how about
the history of the United States?
Troops seizing weapons and powder stores, men defend their home and rights, declare independence, follow up with a bill of rights to deter future abuse of authority......
the history of the United States?
Troops seizing weapons and powder stores, men defend their home and rights, declare independence, follow up with a bill of rights to deter future abuse of authority......
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