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Push for assault weapon ban hits roadblock
By Kurt Erickson and Tory Brecht | Comments(6)

SPRINGFIELD — Illinois Gov. Rod Blagojevich’s renewed push for a statewide ban on assault weapons may not be called for a vote this spring.

One of his top allies in the General Assembly said Monday that the issue might be just too contentious to move forward before lawmakers are scheduled to adjourn the spring legislative session April 7.

“I don’t think anything will happen with that,” said Senate President Emil Jones, D-Chicago, who is co-chairman of the governor’s re-election effort. “It would be very difficult to pass that over here.”

His negative assessment comes only five weeks after Blagojevich made the assault weapons ban a cornerstone of his State of the State speech.

A federal ban on the weapons expired in September 2004, and Blagojevich wants Illinois lawmakers to approve legislation that would ban the manufacture, possession and delivery of semiautomatic assault weapons, assault weapon attachments, large-capacity ammunition feeding devices and the .50-caliber rifle.

The proposed legislation is a major concern for the owners of the Springfield Armory in Geneseo.

The company — with roots reaching back into American history to the Revolutionary War — has been one of the largest employers in the northwestern Illinois city since its arrival in 1974.

“Our guns would no longer be able to be manufactured, owned or sold in Illinois,” said Dennis Reese, who owns the business along with his brother, Tom. “It would require us to move out of the state.”

Reese said 90 percent of their sales are to commercial gun sellers. While the company also sells some weapons to law enforcement agencies, which would still be allowed under the proposed legislation, the percentage is too small to allow them to keep production in Illinois, he said.

An attempt to pass a state

version of the federal law during May fell short in the Illinois House by three votes.

Since then, supporters have been working to craft amendments to the legislation that are aimed at securing votes for the proposal. Steve Brown, a spokesman for House Speaker Michael Madigan, D-Chicago, said backers of the ban want to make sure they have enough support before it is called for another vote.

“It’s going to be a close vote either way,” he said.

The measure is pending in the House. If it won approval in that chamber, Jones’ comments cast doubt on whether it would move through the Senate en route to the governor’s desk.

Gun rights advocates have argued that the federal assault weapons ban did not have any effect on national crime rates. They also have contended that such a ban would hurt hunters, sportsmen and gun collectors.

But Blagojevich and many Chicago-area lawmakers say the guns affected by the ban are better suited for military combat, not hunting.

The Springfield Armory employs 165 people. Ownership or manufacture of the three major types of weapons it makes — the M1A rifle, 1911 A1 handgun and XD pistol — would be forbidden under the governor’s proposed bill.

Reese called it “feel good” legislation and said the governor inaccurately uses the term “assault rifle” to describe the types of weapons his company makes.

“Technically, an assault rifle is a machine gun,” he said. “Our rifles are semi-automatic, civilian-owned and legal firearms made with a military origin and design, but made to very strict standards. It’s not fair to pick out a category of rifle simply because of how they look. But this isn’t the first time the governor has attempted to get us legislated right out of the state.”

Blagojevich spokeswoman Rebecca Rausch said the governor continues to play an active role in promoting the ban.

“We’re doing everything we can to pass it,” she said. “We feel very strongly about the ban.”

Jones said his belief that the measure will not come up for a vote this spring is not because this is an election year. But, he acknowledged, “You’ve got some members who ... are against any gun control.”

Sen. John Cullerton, D-Chicago, who has been an avid supporter of the ban, said the legislation may be better suited for a vote in the fall veto session or next spring, when it is not an election year.

“I’m predicting that, as a result of the election, there will be more people willing to vote for reasonable gun control measures so that next year we will have a better chance to pass it,” he said.

The Reeses, along with four other gun manufacturers from around the state, will travel to Springfield on Wednesday to speak with the Legislature.

“We think there’s a huge amount of misinformation by the anti-gunners that is being given to legislators,” he said. “We aren’t going to take this lying down. We want to stay in the state where we grew up and where we live and work.”

Quad-City Times Springfield Bureau chief Kurt Erickson can be contacted at (217) 782-1249 or [email protected].

Tory Brecht can be contacted at (563) 383-2329 or [email protected].
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The Springfield Armory employs 165 people. Ownership or manufacture of the three major types of weapons it makes — the M1A rifle, 1911 A1 handgun and XD pistol — would be forbidden under the governor’s proposed bill.

I can see how the M1A would be banned under IL HB2414, but how would the handguns be banned? Is it through the "threaded barrel" clause?:confused:
 
That's not a roadblock, that's a tactical decision. As soon as Blago gets re-elected, he, Daley and the other grabbers are going to try and pass it during the fall session...
/Bryan
 
Illinois members call your rep.

Good chance of a vote soon.

From isra.org:

Report from Springfield - March 1

As expected Amendment #9 to HB2414 (Semi-auto ban) passed out of the Executive Committee 9-3. This this is no suprise since the Executive Committee is stacked with Daley & Company cronies. I would still expect to see HB2414 called this week. Please keep up the calls on this bill.

Senate President Emil Jones has said that he wanted no gun bills to get out of the Senate. If that is true why is there four shell bills (Bills without specific language) pretaining to firearms suddenly on third reading in the Senate? They are: SB2532,SB2533,SB2534, and SB2535. All that would have to be done is a floor amendment adopted that would become the bill. We could have a Senate version of 2414 in a matter of minutes. We will keep an eye on the four bills.

I would expect to see some movement after the March 21 Primary.

Please post this to all bulletin boards.

Don't forget ISRA Lobby Day on March 15, 2006. See the ISRA website for details.

Richard A. Pearson ...

Posted Thu Mar 2 07:40:31 CST 2006
 
Ill gunmakers unite to fight terrible AW bill

They are drawing the line and we need to support them as
well as those politicos who are against this horrible bill.
I live in Ca, but am calling a few of the Ill Reps asking
them to vote against this bill and help keep Americans
jobs in Ill. Here's what Ill gun mfg's have stated. >

http://qconline.com/archives/qco/sections.cgi?prcss=display&id=278257
 
They could kill the legislation with one sentence.

"If this bill passes, no Ill. Law enforcement agency, or officer will be sold one of these weapons, and if they do manage to get a hold of one, it will have no warranty so long as it is held by an Ill. government agency, or locality."

I'm sure that if they did, other principled manufacturers would back them.
 
smurfslayer said:
They could kill the legislation with one sentence.

"If this bill passes, no Ill. Law enforcement agency, or officer will be sold one of these weapons, and if they do manage to get a hold of one, it will have no warranty so long as it is held by an Ill. government agency, or locality."

I'm sure that if they did, other principled manufacturers would back them.
never happen completely. to hold an advantage, SOME manufacturer will sideline and say 'we'll arm your law enforcement'. It's all about the money.
 
Oh, brother...

"I don't want to see any businesses, any corporations in Illinois get up and leave the state. But it's a safety issue for the citizens of Illinois and it's a safety issue for the citizens around our nation," Rep. Acevedo said. "These weapons are made for one purpose and one purpose only — and that's mass destruction."

Holy Carolyn McCarthy, Batman! So, I guess every semi-automatic hunting rifle is as dangerous as a flask full of VX?

I have yet to hear anyone give me an actual, concise definition of an "assault weapon," and I reckon I never will.
 
"If this bill passes, no Ill. Law enforcement agency, or officer will be sold one of these weapons, and if they do manage to get a hold of one, it will have no warranty so long as it is held by an Ill. government agency, or locality."
Thats one area where I have to give Barrett firearms incredible commendations. If I could afford one and had someplace to shoot it, I would love to support his company.
 
Daley and Blago don't want

to bring this to a vote now. They made a tatical mistake just bringing this to the house when Blago needs as many votes as he can get. I'll bet they wait till after the election. Hopefully we get someone else into office and we get to watch Daley choke on it.
 
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