Illinois AWB .50 cal ban we need help from becoming felons

[ocd]

Looks like Illinois Bill 2414 has substantial support. It is an assault weapons and .50 Cal ban. You will have to turn your guns and magazines over to authorities in 90 days, destroy them, send them out of state or become a felon! This amounts to gun confiscation. Everyone should be scarred you’re State is next! Representative Edward J. Acevedo (D) is the guy pushing this Bill. He is an Anti-Gun fanatic and will not stop with this Bill. Apparently does not care much for Constitution either. Even if you’re not from Illinois please get involved we need help. I listed the Representatives contact info that are sponsoring this insanity below Bill 2414 contents. Please copy to as many boards as possible.

Synopsis As Introduced

Amends the Criminal Code of 1961. Prohibits the knowing manufacture, delivery, and possession of semiautomatic assault weapons, assault weapon attachments, 50 caliber rifles, and 50 caliber cartridges. Provides for an affirmative defense to a violation for peace officers, correctional institution employees and officers, members of the Armed Services and Reserve Forces of the United States, and the Illinois National Guard while these persons are in the performance of their duties. Establishes penalties for violations. Prohibits the knowing manufacture, delivery, and possession of a large capacity ammunition feeding device (a magazine, belt, drum, feed strip, or similar device that has a capacity of, or that can be readily restored or converted to accept, more than 10 rounds of ammunition and any combination of parts from which such a device can be assembled). Establishes penalties for violations. Requires a person who possesses a large capacity ammunition feeding device on the effective date of the amendatory Act, within 90 days after that date, to destroy the device, render the device permanently inoperable, relinquish the device to a law enforcement agency, or remove the device from the State. Establishes as an affirmative defense to a violation, the delivery or possession of a large capacity ammunition feeding device while in the performance of their official duties by peace officers, correctional institutional employees and officials, and members of the Armed Services or Reserve Forces of the United States or the Illinois National Guard.

1 AMENDMENT TO HOUSE BILL 2414
2 AMENDMENT NO. ______. Amend House Bill 2414 by replacing
3 everything after the enacting clause with the following:
4 "Section 5. The Criminal Code of 1961 is amended by adding
5 Sections 24-1.7 and 24-1.8 as follows:
6 (720 ILCS 5/24-1.7 new)
7 Sec. 24-1.7. Manufacture, possession, and delivery of
8 semiautomatic assault weapons, assault weapon attachments and
9 50 caliber rifles.
10 (a) Definitions. In this Section:
11 (1) "Semi-automatic assault weapon" means:
12 (A) any of the firearms or types, replicas, or
13 duplicates in any caliber of the firearms, known as:
14 (i) Norinco, Mitchell, and Poly Technologies
15 Avtomat Kalashnikovs (all models);
16 (ii) Action Arms Israeli Military Industries
17 UZI and Galil;
18 (iii) Beretta AR-70 (SC-70);
19 (iv) Colt AR-15;
20 (v) Fabrique Nationale FN/FAL, FN/LAR, and
21 FNC;
22 (vi) SWD M-10, M-11, M-11/9, and M-12;
23 (vii) Steyr AUG;
24 (viii) INTRATEC TEC-9, TEC-DC9 and TEC-22; and

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1 (ix) any shotgun which contains its ammunition
2 in a revolving cylinder, such as (but not limited
3 to) the Street Sweeper and Striker 12;
4 (B) a semiautomatic rifle that has an ability to
5 accept a detachable magazine and has any of the
6 following:
7 (i) a folding or telescoping stock;
8 (ii) a pistol grip that protrudes
9 conspicuously beneath the action of the weapon; or
10 (iii) a flash suppressor or barrel having a
11 threaded muzzle;
12 (C) a semi-automatic pistol that has an ability to
13 accept a detachable magazine and has any of the
14 following:
15 (i) an ammunition magazine that attaches to
16 the pistol outside of the pistol grip;
17 (ii) a barrel having a threaded muzzle;
18 (iii) a shroud that is attached to, or
19 partially or completely encircles the barrel, and
20 that permits the shooter to hold the firearm with
21 the non-trigger hand without being burned;
22 (iv) a manufactured weight of 50 ounces or more
23 when the pistol is unloaded; or
24 (v) a semiautomatic version of an automatic
25 firearm;
26 (D) a semiautomatic shotgun that has any of the
27 following:
28 (i) a folding or telescoping stock;
29 (ii) a pistol grip that protrudes
30 conspicuously beneath the action of the weapon;
31 (iii) a fixed magazine capacity in excess of 5
32 rounds; or
33 (iv) an ability to accept a detachable
34 magazine.

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1 "Semiautomatic assault weapon" does not include:
2 (A) any firearm that:
3 (i) is manually operated by bolt, pump, lever
4 or slide action;
5 (ii) is an "unserviceable firearm" or has been
6 made permanently inoperable; or
7 (iii) is an antique firearm;
8 (B) any semiautomatic rifle that cannot accept a
9 detachable magazine that holds more than 5 rounds of
10 ammunition; or
11 (C) any semiautomatic shotgun that cannot hold
12 more than 5 rounds of ammunition in a fixed or
13 detachable magazine.
14 (2) "Assault weapon attachment" means any device
15 capable of being attached to a firearm that is specifically
16 designed for making or converting a firearm into any of the
17 firearms listed in paragraph (1) of subsection (b) of this
18 Section.
19 (3) "Antique firearm" has the meaning ascribed to it in
20 18 U.S.C. Section 921(a)(16).
21 (4) "50 caliber rifle" means a centerfire rifle capable
22 of firing a 50 caliber cartridge. The term does not include
23 any antique firearm, as defined in 18 U.S.C. Section
24 921(a)(16).
25 (5) "50 caliber cartridge" means a cartridge in 50
26 caliber, either by designation or actual measurement,
27 including but not limited to a .50 BMG cartridge, that is
28 capable of being fired from a centerfire rifle. The term
29 "50 caliber cartridge" does not include any memorabilia or
30 display item that is filled with a permanent inert
31 substance or that is otherwise permanently altered in a
32 manner that prevents ready modification for use as live
33 ammunition.
34 (b) Except as provided in subsection (d), 90 days after the

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1 effective date of this amendatory Act of the 94th General
2 Assembly, it is unlawful for any person within this State, to
3 knowingly manufacture, deliver, sell, purchase, or possess or
4 cause to be manufactured, delivered, sold, purchased, or
5 possessed, a semiautomatic assault weapon, an assault weapon
6 attachment, or any 50 caliber rifle.
7 (c) Any person who knowingly possesses a semiautomatic
8 assault weapon, assault weapon attachment, or any 50 caliber
9 rifle must, within 90 days after the effective date of this
10 amendatory Act of the 94th General Assembly, destroy the weapon
11 or attachment, render it permanently inoperable, relinquish it
12 to a law enforcement agency, or remove it from this State.
13 (d) This Section does not apply to or affect any of the
14 following:
15 (1) Peace officers while in performance of their
16 official duties.
17 (2) Wardens, superintendents and keepers of prisons,
18 penitentiaries, jails and other institutions for the
19 detention of persons accused or convicted of an offense.
20 (3) Members of the Armed Services or Reserve Forces of
21 the United States or the Illinois National Guard, while in
22 the performance of their official duties.
23 (4) Manufacture, transportation, or sale of weapons,
24 attachments, or cartridges to persons authorized under
25 subdivisions (1) through (3) of this subsection to possess
26 those items, if the items are broken down in a
27 non-functioning state or are not immediately accessible.
28 (e) Sentence.
29 (1) A person who manufactures, possesses, or delivers a
30 semiautomatic assault weapon in violation of this Section
31 commits a Class 3 felony for a first violation and a Class
32 2 felony for a second or subsequent violation or for the
33 possession or delivery of 2 or more of these weapons at the
34 same time.

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1 (2) A person who possesses or delivers in violation of
2 this Section an assault weapon attachment commits a Class 4
3 felony for a first violation and a Class 3 felony for a
4 second or subsequent violation.
5 (3) A person who manufactures, possesses, or delivers
6 in violation of this Section a 50 caliber rifle commits a
7 Class 4 felony.
8 (720 ILCS 5/24-1.8 new)
9 Sec. 24-1.8. Manufacture, possession, and delivery of
10 large capacity ammunition feeding devices.
11 (a) As used in this Section:
12 "Large capacity ammunition feeding device" means:
13 (1) a magazine, belt, drum, feed strip, or similar
14 device that has a capacity of, or that can be readily
15 restored or converted to accept, more than 10 rounds of
16 ammunition; or
17 (2) any combination of parts from which a device
18 described in paragraph (1) can be assembled.
19 "Large capacity ammunition feeding device" does not
20 include an attached tubular device designed to accept, and
21 capable of operating only with, .22 caliber rimfire ammunition
22 or any device that has been made permanently inoperable.
23 (b) Except as provided in subsection (d), it is unlawful
24 for any person within this State, beginning 90 days after the
25 effective date of this amendatory Act of the 94th General
26 Assembly, to knowingly manufacture, deliver, sell, purchase,
27 or possess or cause to be manufactured, delivered, sold,
28 purchased, or possessed, a large capacity ammunition feeding
29 device.
30 (c) Any person who knowingly possesses a large capacity
31 ammunition feeding device on the effective date of this
32 amendatory Act of the 94th General Assembly must, within 90
33 days after the effective date of this amendatory Act of the

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1 94th General Assembly, destroy the device, render it
2 permanently inoperable, relinquish it to a law enforcement
3 agency, or remove it from this State.
4 (d) This Section does not apply to or affect any of the
5 following:
6 (1) Peace officers while in performance of their
7 official duties.
8 (2) Wardens, superintendents and keepers of prisons,
9 penitentiaries, jails and other institutions for the
10 detention of persons accused or convicted of an offense.
11 (3) Members of the Armed Services or Reserve Forces of
12 the United States or the Illinois National Guard, while in
13 the performance of their official duties.
14 (4) Manufacture, transportation, or sale of large
15 capacity ammunition feeding devices to persons authorized
16 under subdivisions (1) through (3) of this subsection to
17 possess those devices, if the devices are broken down in a
18 non-functioning state or are not immediately accessible.
19 (e) Sentence. A person who possesses or delivers in
20 violation of this Section a large capacity ammunition feeding
21 device capable of holding more than 17 rounds of ammunition
22 commits a Class 3 felony for a first violation and a Class 2
23 felony for a second or subsequent violation or for possession
24 or delivery of 2 or more of these devices at the same time. A
25 person who possesses or delivers in violation of this Section a
26 large capacity ammunition feeding device capable of holding
27 more than 10 rounds but not more than 17 rounds of ammunition
28 commits a Class 4 felony for a first violation and a Class 3
29 felony for a second or subsequent violation or for possession
30 or delivery of more than one of these devices at the same
31 time.".

Sponsors of the Bill
Representative Edward J. Acevedo (D)
2nd District
Assistant Majority Leader
Springfield Office:
109 Capitol
Springfield, IL 62706
(217) 782-2855
(217) 782-7762 FAX
[email protected]
District Office:
2439 S. Oakley
Chicago, IL 60608
(773) 843-1200
(773) 523-9900 FAX
Cook County

Representative Monique D. Davis (D)
27th District
Springfield Office:
241-E Stratton Office Building
Springfield, IL 62706
(217) 782-0010
(217) 782-1795 FAX
[email protected]
District Office:
1234 West 95th Street
Chicago, IL 60643
(773) 445-9700
(773) 445-5755 FAX
Cook County

Representative Karen A. Yarbrough (D)
7th District
Springfield Office:
272-S Stratton Office Building
Springfield, IL 62706
(217) 782-8120
Fax: 217/782-1739
[email protected]
District Office:
2305 W. Roosevelt Rd.
Broadview, IL 60155
(708) 615-1747
(708) 615-1745 FAX
Cook County

Representative Harry Osterman (D)
14th District
Springfield Office:
273-S Stratton Office Building
Springfield, IL 62706
(217) 782-8088
(217) 782-6592 FAX
[email protected]
District Office:
5535 North Broadway
Chicago, IL 60640
(773) 784-2002
(773) 784-2060 FAX
Cook County

Representative Linda Chapa LaVia (D)
83rd District
Springfield Office:
235-E Stratton Office Building
Springfield, IL 62706
(217) 558-1002
(217) 782-0927 FAX
[email protected]
District Office:
8 E. Galena Blvd. Suite 240
Aurora, IL 60506
(630) 264-6855
(630) 264-6752 FAX
Kane County

Representative Deborah L. Graham (D)
78th District
Springfield Office:
268-S Stratton Office Building
Springfield, IL 62706
(217) 782-6400
(217) 558-1054 FAX
[email protected]
District Office:
6101 1/2 W. North Avenue
Oak Park, IL 60302
(708) 445-9520
(708) 445-9521 FAX
Cook County

Representative Sara Feigenholtz (D)
12th District
Springfield Office:
254-W Stratton Office Building
Springfield, IL 62706
(217) 782-8062
(217) 557-7203 FAX
[email protected]
District Office:
1051 W. Belmont
Chicago, IL 60657
(773) 296-4141
(773) 296-0993 FAX
Cook County

Representative Mary E. Flowers (D)
31st District
Springfield Office:
251-E Stratton Office Building
Springfield, IL 62706
(217) 782-4207
(217) 782-1130 FAX
[email protected]
District Office:
2525 W. 79th Street
Chicago, IL 60652
(773) 471-5200
(773) 471-1036 FAX
Cook County

Representative Richard T. Bradley (D)
40th District
Springfield Office:
286-S Stratton Office Building
Springfield, IL 62706
(217) 782-8117
(217) 558-6369 FAX
[email protected]
District Office:
3520 North Pulaski Road
Chicago, IL 60641
(773) 794-9444
(773) 794-9450 FAX
Cook County

Representative Joseph M. Lyons (D)
19th District
Majority Conference Chairperson
Springfield Office:
229-E Stratton Office Building
Springfield, IL 62706
(217) 782-8400
(217) 557-1934 FAX
District Office:
5205 N. Milwaukee
Chicago, IL 60630
(773) 286-1115
(773) 545-7106 FAX
Cook County

Representative Barbara Flynn Currie (D)
25th District
Majority Leader
Springfield Office:
300 Capitol Building
Springfield, IL 62706
(217) 782-8121
(217) 524-1794 FAX
[email protected]
District Office:
1303 E. 53rd Street
Chicago, IL 60615
(773) 667-0550
(773) 667-3010 FAX
Cook County

Representative Michelle Chavez (D)
24th District
Springfield Office:
252- W Stratton Office Building
Springfield, IL 62706
(217) 782-8173
District Office:
2138 South 61st Street
Cicero, IL 60804
(708) 863-1766
(708) 863-1768 FAX
Cook County

Representative Charles E. Jefferson (D)
67th District
Springfield Office:
281-S Stratton Office Building
Springfield, IL 62706
(217) 782-3167
(217) 557-7654 FAX
[email protected]
District Office:
200 S. Wyman #304
E.J. "Zeke" Giorgi Center
Rockford, IL 61101
(815) 987-7433
(815) 987-7225 FAX
Winnebago County

 

[whm1974]

So if this bill passes the state AWB will be more strict then the federal was. How many people do you think WILL NOT turn anything in IF this managed to become law?

-Bill

 

[whm1974]

One way to defeat these kind of bills or get them repealed if they become law is get as many people buy firearms that are defined as "assualt weapons". This would work well with firearms that most people wouldn't even consider to be an "assualt weapon" but is define by to be one for some dumb reason or other. For example a Malin Model 60 w/ 17 round tube is considered an AW in NJ but one with only 15 rounds isn't.

-Bill

 

[Fletchette]

Establishes as an affirmative defense to a violation, the delivery or possession of a large capacity ammunition feeding device while in the performance of their official duties by peace officers, correctional institutional employees and officials, and members of the Armed Services or Reserve Forces of the United States or the Illinois National Guard.

Translation: Guns are BAAAD (except when the elite has them).

 

[lwsimon]

This defines the following as AW's:

Shotguns with a pistol grip
Semi-automatic version of an automatic pistol


Oddly, it has a provision for "antique firearms" - as defined by 18 U.S.C. Section 921(a)(16). I haven't looked this up yet, but I suspect it means C&R weapons are exempt. SO - you can have an NFA M16, but not an modern AR-15? Never said they had to make any sense...

 

[SLOdraw]

So the Beretta 92 is soon to be illegal because there is a full-auto 93 or a Glock 17 since there is a Glock 18 full-auto version? And I thought California was bad...

 

[whm1974]

So the Beretta 92 is soon to be illegal because there is a full-auto 93 or a Glock 17 since there is a Glock 18 full-auto version? And I thought California was bad...

Since so many people have these two guns the ISP will have a hard time enforcing this AWB IF it becomes law.

Like I said the more people who a firearm that will be defined as as an AW the harder it will be to pass these kind of laws.

-Bill

 

[rick_reno]

California tried something similar - it differed a bit and tried registration in place of turning them in. It wasn't a success, the vast majority of gun owners ignored it.

What incentive do they have in Illinois to get people to turn their guns over to the state? Do they know where they are? Has there been a registration effort that worked?

 

[Standing Wolf]

The barbarians are not at the gates. They're in Springfield.

 

[whm1974]

California tried something similar - it differed a bit and tried registration in place of turning them in. It wasn't a success, the vast majority of gun owners ignored it.

What incentive do they have in Illinois to get people to turn their guns over to the state? Do they know where they are? Has there been a registration effort that worked?

The state itself doesn't have registration. If the people that own the AWs defined by this bill simply ignore it, the state will catch very few of them. The over 10 rounds mags will be even worse since more people own them and they are much easyer to hide.

-Bill

 

[stealthmode]

bury them until you need them you still have handguns and shotguns for home defense.

 

[Don't Tread On Me]

bury them until you need them you still have handguns and shotguns for home defense.

Yes.


Only slaves and subjects turn their guns in. Store them, hide them, keep them. IN the meantime, fight the paper battle. If the day comes, dig them up and USE them.


I can only wait.....

 

[Jadecristal]

Number of rounds?

Look at this... we're now down to arguing whether an additional round in the magazine past 10 or 17 makes it a class 3 or class 4 felony. I'm beyond putting a little flaming face, or even a beating-the-head-on-the-wall face.

I really am just at a loss for any words at all on a bill like this. If it passes, I'll be even more at a loss.

 

[Jeff White]

The sky is falling..The sky is falling!!!

With the exception of the addition of the .50 caliber ban, this is the same bill that they've tried to push through for at least the last 3 years. We need to keep our eyes on these people, but the substantial support that's signed onto this bill is nothing more then the usual suspects from Chicagoland who vote for every gun control measure Daley can concoct.

I've failed to see the names of any downstate Democrat signed up to cosponsor this bill. Acevedo may be the assistant majority leader, but Curt Grandburg, who is my representative, is the majority leader. Funny, but I don't see his name on it as a co-sponsor.

The bill has just had it's second reading in the House after having been introduced way back on February 17th. Acevedo has just introduced another amendment to the bill that was referred to the rules committee on the 12th.

They only have until Friday, the 15th to do the third reading and pass the bill in the House. It's not on the schedule for today, the 13th.

In short this is a long way from passing. Yes, we need to be vigilant, but lets remember, somehow the we have one of the biggest antigunners in the country as governor, yet in the three years we've had him, they haven't succeeded in passing one anti gun measure. And we have succeeded in passing a couple progun measures. So let's stop the handwringing about bills the same people introduce every year and keep on the offensive.

Concealed carry for Illinois residents is possible. You don't win playing defense. We'll beat this back just like we've beaten the rest back.

Jeff

 

[goalie]

bury them until you need them you still have handguns and shotguns for home defense

Unfortunately, if it is time to bury your guns to hide them from an oppressive government, it is also time to dig them up and use them.

 

[Matthew748]

Chicago politicians never fail to frustrate me. They have tried every type of social control mechanism available to them and their precious city is still a terrible place. They begin the day as failures and end it in the same way. The only joy they seem to derive out of life is to beat up on honest folks who follow the rules and pay taxes. I am just thankful that the great state of Indiana is only about 20ish miles away from me. If our freedoms begin to crumble here in Illinois I can relocate there without to much trouble.

 

[SaintofKillers]

Dont you all think its about time to stop with the "Bury your guns and then dig them up and use them" stuff already??

I am really getting a little tired of all the armchair warriors talking about how they are going to shoot the first police officer that comes to their door to confiscate their guns.

I really dont want to hear what you are going to do, and saying things such as this on a public forum is more ammo for the antis.

Illinois has been fighting off this oppresion for the past 3 years and fairing quite well, WITH OUT VIOLENCE, I might add.

So do what you will hide'em, bury'em or whatever but keep it to yourself.

I know what I plan to do, and only myself and my immediate family know also, not the rest of the world.

 

[Sindawe]

SaintofKillers, I direct your attention to something said by another "armchair warrior" of days past...

"What country can preserve its liberties if its rulers are not warned from time to time that their people preserve the spirit of resistance? Let them take arms. The remedy is to set them right as to facts, pardon and pacify them." --Thomas Jefferson to William Stephens Smith, 1787. ME 6:373, Papers 12:356

 

[Don Gwinn]

Just keep calling and it will go down in flames. We just have to keep doing what we're doing.
Call call call! But DO NOT PANIC. They're not going to get this passed unless we sit back and let it happen.



Fletchette, it's even crazier than that. When they say it's an "affirmative defense" that means that if you are a peace officer or a National Guardsman carrying one of these weapons while on duty, even the weapon that was issued to you, you only have an affirmative defense. That means you can still be arrested, arraigned and brought to trial, but once you're at trial facing a felony charge and prison time, you will be allowed to raise the fact that you were on duty with your issue weapon at the time as an "affirmative defense" to the charge!

That was one of the most ridiculous features last year and the year before. I never in a million years thought they'd leave that in there. I think they're still trying to figure out a way to get us to negotiate that out and give them something in return, but for now, there's no reason. We can kill these bills at will just as they can currently spike concealed carry every year. It's trench warfare, lads, and the Hun is stubborn.

 

[SaintofKillers]

Sindawe,

I whole heartedly agree with what you have said....

"The tree of liberty must be refreshed from time to time with the blood of patriots and tyrants." Thomas Jefferson

.... but what I am saying is that people talk too much about doing things that to others, regardless of our opinions, may seem harsh and irrational.

IMO this only hurts our cause. Sun Tsu-Keep your friends close and your enemies closer.

I just dont see how people going off on a rant about smoking jack boots is going to help us, I think it just gives the antis more ammo to use against us.

 

[Hk91 Fan]

Hey all,

I don't post much around here, but this is a great forum. Thanks for having me, guys...

Now, it is important for everyone here to understand that we have faced this exact same bill as far back as SB 1185, which was years ago. Illinois has a highly organized, vocal and successful grass roots operation going and has for some time. This has been in place well before Blago's inauguration, and will be well past the days of Daley, believe it or not.

Jeff White makes a valid point. The "substantial support" claim is a sham forwarded by the anti-gunners from the "windy apple". The cast of characters who signed on to this are Daleys lap-dogs and nothing more. Stay in touch with your people, and keep up the call. In terms of Brady press releases, don't believe the hype - it's a sequal...

 

[whm1974]

I am really getting a little tired of all the armchair warriors talking about how they are going to shoot the first police officer that comes to their door to confiscate their guns.

Considering how many gunowners have said that or "you can have my guns from my cold dead hands" if I was a police officer I would call off sick the day they send cops to confiscate guns.

People can be mightly touche about thier property....

-Bill

 

[Jeff White]

Don,
Amendment 1 eliminates the affirmative defense for peace officers, memebrs of the military etc. and just exempts them:
http://www.ilga.gov/legislation/ful...cTypeId=HB&LegID=&DocNum=2414&GAID=8&Session=

(d) This Section does not apply to or affect any of the following: (1) Peace officers while in performance of their official duties.

(2) Wardens, superintendents and keepers of prisons, penitentiaries, jails and other institutions for the detention of persons accused or convicted of an offense.

(3) Members of the Armed Services or Reserve Forces of the United States or the Illinois National Guard, while in the performance of their official duties.

(4) Manufacture, transportation, or sale of weapons, attachments, or cartridges to persons authorized under subdivisions (1) through (3) of this subsection to possess those items, if the items are broken down in a non-functioning state or are not immediately accessible.

Apparently you could only manufacture, transport or sell those items to authorized persons if they were broken down in a non functioning state and not immediately accessable....Where do they come up with this BS???

Amendment 2 deletes while in the performance of their official duties from the exemptions...Presumably peace officers, soldiers etc. could just possess them and makes possession and use of them at DNR sanctioned events at the new Sparta Shooting Complex legal:
http://www.ilga.gov/legislation/ful...&SessionId=50&DocTypeId=HB&DocNum=2414&GAID=8

AMENDMENT TO HOUSE BILL 2414

AMENDMENT NO. ______. Amend House Bill 2414, AS AMENDED, with reference to page and line numbers of House Amendment No. 4 1, on page 2, line 7, by by inserting "or", after ";"; and
on page 2, by deleting lines 8 and 9; and
on page 2, line 10, by replacing "(iii)" with "(ii)"; and
on page 6, lines 6 and 7, by deleting "while in performance of 8 their official duties"; and on page 6, by inserting immediately below line 18, the following:
"(5) Events sanctioned by the Illinois Department of Natural Resources taking place at the Sparta Shooting Complex and transportation to and from such events if the weapons are broken down in a non-functioning state or are not immediately accessible.".

So I assume you could buy one at the event (of course the 24 hour wait for a long gun might make it difficult) and you could transport it to and from the event (as long as the evil thing was broken down in a non-functioning state and not immediately accessible) but I don't see how you could legally possess it in the first place.....I assume this is intended to get the downstate legislators on board...Fat chance...

Jeff

 

[jefnvk]

Apparently you could only manufacture, transport or sell those items to authorized persons if they were broken down in a non functioning state and not immediately accessable....Where do they come up with this BS???

They are telling the Army how to transport their weapons? I don't think the Army reports to the Govenor of Illinois

 

[Talon]

I don't think the Army reports to the Govenor of Illinois

Though they may one day be reporting to one of the current Illinois Senators. unfortunately.