Inclusivity in gun culture will be the only thing that saves the 2A

[S&W620]

All of these post make no difference. The only real truth is the voting booth. Nothing else matters. If you want to keep your 2A gun rights then vote for them and the candidate that will support them. Any thing else is shameful hypocrisy. Just cheap talk. 2A is very close to be taken away. I mean a very good chance. Go to the voting Booth, stand tall, be proud and vote to keep our Constitution and our long heritage of Gun ownership.

I think you’re missing the point to some degree. Voting for gun rights isn’t something you can do individually, it’s a package deal with other conservative/republican stances that aren’t appealing to all.

The point of this thread is we need to find ways to bridge gaps with other people and make guns a less “conservative” stance and make them more universal. We need the second amendment viewed similarly to the first, where it’s not a political stance, but one universally embraced.

We can’t expect to convert liberal voters to conservative, we need to help shift the liberal idea on guns to hope to change the liberal stance in general. We need liberal voters telling their liberal representatives “hey, leave our gun rights alone” or, better yet, “stop restricting my 2A rights”.

We need a broader appeal than just single issue voters and conservatives.

 

[Hartkopf]

I think you’re missing the point to some degree. Voting for gun rights isn’t something you can do individually, it’s a package deal with other conservative/republican stances that aren’t appealing to all.

The point of this thread is we need to find ways to bridge gaps with other people and make guns a less “conservative” stance and make them more universal. We need the second amendment viewed similarly to the first, where it’s not a political stance, but one universally embraced.

We can’t expect to convert liberal voters to conservative, we need to help shift the liberal idea on guns to hope to change the liberal stance in general. We need liberal voters telling their liberal representatives “hey, leave our gun rights alone” or, better yet, “stop restricting my 2A rights”.

We need a broader appeal than just single issue voters and conservatives.

I respectfully disagree. 2A is locked into a political stance. Our only hope is to draw normal people away from the middle left since the party is being steered by radicals that are jumping off of the left side of the cliff. I don't see any possible way a party would change stance on one of it's core values. We are stuck with an all or nothing choice unfortunately.

This is why I always say we need to communicate with our young people before the brainwashing starts in middle school.

 

[S&W620]

I respectfully disagree. 2A is locked into a political stance. Our only hope is to draw normal people away from the middle left since the party is being steered by radicals that are jumping off of the left side of the cliff. I don't see any possible way a party would change stance on one of it's core values. We are stuck with an all or nothing choice unfortunately.

This is why I always say we need to communicate with our young people before the brainwashing starts in middle school.

I’m not debating whether it is locked in currently, it most definitely is.

I’m saying that’s a change we need to make happen, and it’s not a short term play, it’s going to take years/generations but that change has to start now.

If our plan is to expect single issue voting irrespective of people’s thoughts on other political issues, I think that’s a losing bet long term. I could be wrong though, it’s happened before (just ask the Mrs.).

 

[GEM]

More sky is falling? Not on topic

 

[danez71]

I think y'all are wrong..... and right.

I think that, generally speaking, the 2 parties have their base pretty well locked.


But there is a middle of people similar to me that dont have a problem with or may even support some liberal topics but I'm a fairly conservative guy in general. I used to say I'm conservatively liberal or liberally conservative.

I'm probably considered more of a libertarian. Less govt in my daily life.

For ex. I think the Gov has no business restricting my choice of a companion in life or what we choose to do... or not do... in the bedroom.

I also feel that Gov has no business telling people how to protect themselves particularly when they've demonstrated they can't or won't protect my family and in the recent times, have taken actions that have decreased public safety by releasing people convicted of sex crimes from jail but arrested a mom for having her child at a park.


Those are typically opposite party positions. These are the people we need on our side that may be torn between the 2 parties.


For me it's easy. If you can't protect yourself then you may not be able to choose your companion so, unfortunately, in my mind, 2A comes before companion laws because people are going to love who they love regardless of .Gov.

 

[GEM]

We don't want to debate socialism.

I'm closing this for staff discussion again.

 

[GEM]

Staying close after discussion. Just wait to eat your strawberries. Internal staff joke, don't ask!

 

[hso]

This stays closed since some people don't understand what staying on topic in Activism means in spite of the sticky.

https://www.thehighroad.org/index.p...asis-on-work-read-this-before-posting.270671/