Instead of striker fired 9mm
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There’s a whole host of .380 (“9mm kurz” in Euro parlance) pistols that are hammer fired and made of metal. The problem is, .380 is a different and weaker beast entirely than 9mm, and all these designs are straight blowback, which means recoil is unnecessarily strong (back in the day this made the gun notably cheaper to produce) and of limited capacity. In short, they can be elegant and cool but they’re not really optimal for carry or use today which is why nobody recommended them.
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LGS has two Sig Sauer P938 pistols, look nearly identical. Used. Asking $600 for one that includes 3 extra magazines. Asking $700 with (they said) better grips, 4 extra magazines, and 4 holsters.
P938 seems much like a 1911 in function, SA only, exposed hammer, thumb safety. Seems like a nice choice but they also seem perhaps a bit over priced for used.
P938 seems much like a 1911 in function, SA only, exposed hammer, thumb safety. Seems like a nice choice but they also seem perhaps a bit over priced for used.
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Dozens of good options were suggested, many of therepeats show some designs are very desirable.
Now it’s time to poo or get off the pot!
Let us know what you buy.
Stay safe.
Well here is the poo: I just picked up this used Sig P938 today. And this is neither of the two I mentioned in the previous post. A third one appeared at the same GS when I popped in yesterday. Flush 6-round mag for 2-finger grip and an extended 7-round mag for 3 finger grip. I like that this is like a 1911 but pretty small, won't say mouse gun but it is definitely small. As mouse as it gets for a 9mm I guess. Feels good in the hand, especially with the extended mag.
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Good deal!Well here is the poo: I just picked up this used Sig P938 today. And this is neither of the two I mentioned in the previous post. A third one appeared at the same when I popped in yesterday. Flush 6-round mag for 2-finger grip and an extended 7-round mag for 3 finger grip. I like that this is a like a 1911 but pretty small, won't say mouse gun but it is definitely small. As mouse as it gets for a 9mm I guess. Feels good in the hand, especially with the extended mag.
I think you will like that pistol,I haven’t shot a SIG 938 but I do have a Kimber Micro 9, which is similar in size and operation. The Micro 9 has a little bit of recoil, as is expected in a small 9mm pistol, but it isn’t abusive so shooting it is rather easy. Your new 938 should be the same for you.
My only complaint with the Micro 9 involves the edge of my thumb getting a blister from the safety lever. It rubs the thumb knuckle juuuust right, so after 40- odd shots the skin was worn down
.Like your new SIG the Micro 9 also has a “backwards” floorplate on some of the magazines, with an extension that points to the rear of the grip rather than to the front. In a stress situation this could lead to confusion if you are reloading while watching for a threat and aren’t familiar with how the magazine feels when being inserted. Its not a major issue, but it is something I noticed when working on drills with my gun.
Let us know how your 938 shoots for you when you get a chance to shoot it.
Stay safe.
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Good deal!
I haven’t shot a SIG 938 but I do have a Kimber Micro 9, which is similar in size and operation. The Micro 9 has a little bit of recoil, as is expected in a small 9mm pistol, but it isn’t abusive so shooting it is rather easy. Your new 938 should be the same for you.
My only complaint with the Micro 9 involves the edge of my thumb getting a blister from the safety lever. It rubs the thumb knuckle juuuust right, so after 40- odd shots the skin was worn down
Like your new SIG the Micro 9 also has a “backwards” floorplate on some of the magazines, with an extension that points to the rear of the grip rather than to the front. In a stress situation this could lead to confusion if you are reloading while watching for a threat and aren’t familiar with how the magazine feels when being inserted. Its not a major issue, but it is something I noticed when working on drills with my gun.
Let us know how your 938 shoots for you when you get a chance to shoot it.
Stay safe.
Nice shooting. I don't know that my skills are anywhere near that, but depends on the distance. One video said the P938 is not as snappy as one would have expected. Another said it beat up their hand. We'll see. Not like it is a range toy and if I carry might be good to save the flush mag for reloads since the backward floorplate did confuse me just in laying them out for the photograph.
Your Micro 9 looks a lot like the P938. I belive the GS had a Micro 9 but it was a bit more money and silver colored. For some reason the black color appealed to me more, as did the rosewood grips. My issue with the safety is it is ambi and the right side hits my hand as I am taking it off with the left thumb. Oh and the safety is pretty small so takes more focus than the safety on the 1911.
Probably with the right holster one could take the safety off once it is in the holster (Condition 0), making for a simpler draw, but the manual warns that if the trigger is being pressed when the safety is taken off it will fire! So that is probably not a good idea. I'll just have to practice the safety in dry fire unholstering.
Also I could go small with lower capacity since I decided to keep the SD9VE on account that a trade in would not bring much--if they would even take it on trade.
Hoping to get to the range soon.
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The DAO Sig P229 I tried out…well…I wasn’t so sure that it Was a DA gun. Think about it.
Along with having the Smoothest pull,
Do “all of y’all” understand what the word “stacking” means? This is not the same thing as “smoothness”. Most gun people seem to conflate both features of a gun.
I didn’t even Notice Any stacking with that P229 in DAO.
A Police Academy Instructor let me try it, and might be an LEO Turn-In.
Yes— I was impressed——-wish I had known about/ bought one when many more were available. By then I already had several handguns.
Along with having the Smoothest pull,
Do “all of y’all” understand what the word “stacking” means? This is not the same thing as “smoothness”. Most gun people seem to conflate both features of a gun.
I didn’t even Notice Any stacking with that P229 in DAO.
A Police Academy Instructor let me try it, and might be an LEO Turn-In.
Yes— I was impressed——-wish I had known about/ bought one when many more were available. By then I already had several handguns.
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I had a P245 that was factory converted to DAO. It had a very nice DA trigger and was more along the lines of a good DA revolver. I also had a P250 when they first came out and it was very nice too.
Truth be told though, Ive always found most all of SIG's DA triggers to be nice as well. Most of my dryfire with the couple of SIG's I still have is all DAO and I really dont see a whole lot of difference with them, compared to the DAO guns. Although of all of them, the P250's trigger was a bit more "buttery" than the others.
As far as "stacking" goes, I always thought that was a user generated thing, and not so much the gun. At least with the guns I shoot DA. I normally stoke them straight through and dont stack them, and I dont see any difference, start to finish, unless I were to cause it to happen.
The "stroke" can vary a lot as you shoot too, and its not always a "quick" thing. All depends on what the sights are doing and the urgency, or lack of it, in getting the shot off. Sometimes its a slow and smooth thing, sometimes its more of a smooth "snatch".
Truth be told though, Ive always found most all of SIG's DA triggers to be nice as well. Most of my dryfire with the couple of SIG's I still have is all DAO and I really dont see a whole lot of difference with them, compared to the DAO guns. Although of all of them, the P250's trigger was a bit more "buttery" than the others.
As far as "stacking" goes, I always thought that was a user generated thing, and not so much the gun. At least with the guns I shoot DA. I normally stoke them straight through and dont stack them, and I dont see any difference, start to finish, unless I were to cause it to happen.
The "stroke" can vary a lot as you shoot too, and its not always a "quick" thing. All depends on what the sights are doing and the urgency, or lack of it, in getting the shot off. Sometimes its a slow and smooth thing, sometimes its more of a smooth "snatch".
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I'm a revolver guy but my all time favorite handgun is still the Jericho.
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I have two Jerichos, a near new black "Semi Compact" and an old beat up SA nickeled Israeli surplus one. Anything on the CZ/Tanfo platform and I'm liking it. Especially the all steel ones.
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Judging "polymer striker fired" pistols base on the S&W SD9 VE is not good. Before you buy, tryout a Sig P320RX, Glock 48 MOS, Canik w/ optic, Ruger MAX9, Ruger Security 9, Sig P365XL /w Remo 0. Otherwise, highly recommend Dan Wesson 1911 9mm,
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Congrats on the "new" SIG P938!
I have a P238 and my step-son has a P938 as well. Both are well made, have decent triggers on them, and are very manageable to shoot.
For concealed carry my Kahr CM9 was my go-to-gun but now I have a SIG P365 for that purpose. My home defense gun is a SIG P229R with the SRT and the E2 grips. Mounted a SIG STL900 laser/light on it and it's good to go.
Congrats on the "new" SIG P938!
I have a P238 and my step-son has a P938 as well. Both are well made, have decent triggers on them, and are very manageable to shoot.
For concealed carry my Kahr CM9 was my go-to-gun but now I have a SIG P365 for that purpose. My home defense gun is a SIG P229R with the SRT and the E2 grips. Mounted a SIG STL900 laser/light on it and it's good to go.
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I am looking for a metal frame and the DW 1911 sounds really good but I opted for a tiny version of a 9mm, the Sig P938 1911-like pistol.
It seems that as in the auto industry the majority of product went front drive and more plastic parts, so in guns the majority went striker and plastic.
I'll keep the SD9VE for now, because I won't get much for it if I sell it.
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I have always used the term “staging” a DA revolver when pulling through the trigger stroke and stopping as the cylinder stop drops into the notch before the hammer falls. Then I ensure the sights are aligned as I finish the pull as if it was in SA.
To me, the term “stacking” involves an increase in the trigger pull weight as the trigger is being pulled through the stroke. My Colts have a bit of this (Officers Model Heavy Barrel and Cobra) but my Ruger 6-shot GP-100 .357 has a pronounced stack just prior to the hammer fall. My various S&W’s don’t exhibit much stacking throughout their pulls.
I certainly may be wrong or have my terms backwards of course.
Stay safe.
It's most definately the gun.
Exactly. Has nothing to do with pulling through as it increases until the break.
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Must be me then, as I dont feel the trigger get any heavier as I stroke through it. Seems smooth to me, all the way through.
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Good deal!
Let us know how your 938 shoots for you when you get a chance to shoot it.
Had it to the range today and am pleased with the accuracy. Keep in mind my dominant eye was set up for distance in my eyeglasses so the sights are blurry. I had some issues with the gun that made it so each group is not necessarily 6 or 7 rounds (magazine capacities) that may be from the gun needed a cleaning and maybe was not as well oiled as I had thought. Anyway here are the
results. The outer circle is 7.5" by 5.5":
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Thats where you need them to go, well done.
Stay safe.
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938 is a real nice gun. Good groups!
If you like SA, look at the P229SAO when the new gun itch next hits. It combines the best of the 1911 and the Sig P220 series.
If you like SA, look at the P229SAO when the new gun itch next hits. It combines the best of the 1911 and the Sig P220 series.
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I am returning the gun because it has the old, defective main spring and housing and already has worn to cause hammer followback during shooting. I called Sig and they do not warranty except for original owner. It will be costly in parts and labor to replace as the gun has to pretty much be disassembled to get that spring in. I can get refund or trade for one of the other P938s they have if those have the updated spring. Or I can simply order a new one, which might be a better bet, especially if I want to carry it.
Here is the problem as I found it described online. I can actually get my main spring to pull back down but a few dry fires and it is migrated up again. One guy actually fixed his by putting a screw into the plastic housing through the lower hole in the main spring, but that is as much work or more than just updating the spring and housing. You can see how much better the new housing is. The little plastic nub wears to easily. The new one has a much more substantial attachment.
Here is the problem as I found it described online. I can actually get my main spring to pull back down but a few dry fires and it is migrated up again. One guy actually fixed his by putting a screw into the plastic housing through the lower hole in the main spring, but that is as much work or more than just updating the spring and housing. You can see how much better the new housing is. The little plastic nub wears to easily. The new one has a much more substantial attachment.
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Gun was exchanged this am for one that has the updated mainspring. I had to pay a difference of $25 even though they had this one listed for $125 more than the one I returned. I will miss the 1911 looking cherrywood grips but this wrap around is nice in the hand. I got 4 mags with this one, the other had two. And I he switched one out for me so I would have one flush mag.
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Still a reasonably good deal. Those flush fit mags are almost useless for me on the P238 I have. Grip is so short I can't possibly get my pinky anywhere near it, so it ends up sticking out there like I'm having tea.
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Very true, but I like having one flush mag just because 1. the gun looks cool with it, especially the former one with the 1911-looking cherry grips, and 2. it is more compact for carry, depending if I want to do pocket, else the extended for an IWB holster.
