Interesting Statistics re: Democrats and guns

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This is somewhat related to the current thread 'Democrats rethink stance on gun control'. However they cite some interesting poll statistics. Some are reassuring in that most Americans beleive the 2nd ammendment is an individual right, others regarding the AW ban and the 'gun show loophole' are frightening to me.

http://www.jointogether.org/gv/news/alerts/reader/0,2061,567255,00.html


National Poll Redefines the Gun Issue
10/17/2003




Press Release
Americans for Gun Safety
Washington, DC
www.americansforgunsafety.com

Contact:
Deborah Barron
Phone: 202-775-0300 x204

Democrats Can Eliminate "Gun Gap" With Centrist Stance

Washington, DC - Democrats have had trouble with gun owning voters in recent years, but can make substantial headway with a moderate message of supporting gun rights, closing gun law loopholes, and vigorously enforcing existing laws, according to a poll and seven-step blueprint released today (Thursday) by Americans for Gun Safety (AGS).

The poll found that gun owning voters often assume that Democrats, particularly if they are silent on the issue, are anti-gun, anti-Second Amendment, and disrespectful of the values held by those who own firearms. It also found that a plurality of gun owners define themselves as moderates and will flock to Democratic candidates with a moderate gun position.

The poll was conducted for AGS by Penn Schoen & Berhland Associates with 802 interviews between October 1-6, 2003 among likely 2004 presidential election voters. In a generic congressional ballot, a Democrat trails a Republican who supports Second Amendment rights by a margin of 42-45%. When the Democrat is described as one who supports Second Amendment rights, closing gun law loopholes, and vigorous enforcement of existing laws, the Democrat wins 57-32%. Support for this "rights and responsibilities" Democrat increases from 30% to 44% among gun owners and from 52% to 68% among non-gun owners.

"If Democrats adopt a platform that balances gun rights with responsible policy the 'gun problem' could soon be a Republican problem," said AGS President Jon Cowan. "However, unless Democrats take back the Second Amendment, they could soon be extinct in many of the states that determine critical elections." The findings and the AGS document entitled "Taking Back the Second Amendment: A 7-Step Blueprint for Democrats to Promote Responsibility and Win the Gun Vote," take on conventional party wisdom suggesting that Democrats must avoid talking about guns. The poll shows that an enormous "gun gap" exists between gun owning and non-gun owning households. Gun owners have such hardened views on where Democrats stand on the gun issue that silence is not an option in so-called "red states" - states that voted for President Bush in 2000 and, not coincidentally, have gun ownership rates 35% higher than states that voted for Gore.

"The Second Amendment does not belong to any political party and the gun issue does not have to be a partisan issue," said Cowan " Democrats must wake up to the fact that gun owners prefer candidates who stand up for gun rights, responsible gun laws, and vigorous enforcement."

The poll found that Republicans are also vulnerable on the gun issue because while they traditionally adopt a powerful enforcement message on guns, they often fail to support responsible gun safety measures supported by the majority of gun owners. In addition, voters are poised to punish Republicans for failing to fulfill their promise to enforce the nation's gun laws. Eighty-eight percent of gun owners were receptive to a message on the paucity of Justice Department prosecutions for lying on the background check form used to screen gun buyers.

"The enforcement message is very powerful for Democrats because voters are aware that the Bush Administration promised tough enforcement of all federal gun laws," said Cowan.

Among the key findings from the poll:

Gun Owner Demographics: 47% of voting households have a gun in the home - 60% in the Plains states, 55% in the South, 47% in the Western, 44% in the Midwest, and 36% in the Northeast. 25% of women say they personally own firearms.

Gun Owner Views Toward Democrats: By a margin of 63-20%, gun owners say Democrats are the party that wants to ban guns (55-18% for non-gun owners). By a margin of 59-20%, gun owners say Democrats do not respect gun owners and their values (44-19% for non-gun owners). By a margin of 55-19%, gun owners say Democrats blame law abiding gun owners for the crime problems (39-25% for non-gun owners).

Views on the 2nd Amendment: Only 8% of voters believe that the Second Amendment does not protect an individual's right to own a gun. 74% take a moderate view of the amendment and believe that the right allows for restrictions to keep guns out of the hands of criminals. 14% are absolutists and believe that the right allows for no restrictions whatsoever.

Support for New Gun Laws: By a margin of 92-7%, voters support improving the background check system to make instant checks faster and more accurate (90-9% among gun owners). By a margin of 90-9%, voters support closing the gun show loophole (85-13% among gun owners, and 83-16% among those who have attended gun shows). By a margin of 86-12%, voters support making gun trafficking a crime as severe as drug trafficking (85-15% among gun owners). By a margin of 77-21%, voters support renewing the assault weapons ban (66-30% among gun owners).

The "7-Step Blueprint" outlining how Democrats can promote responsibility and win on the gun issue will be presented to state legislators from around the country this weekend in Atlanta at a conference co-sponsored by the Democratic Leadership Council titled "God, Guns, and Guts: Seizing the Cultural Center."

Americans for Gun Safety is a gun rights organization that works to build bipartisan support for federal legislation such as closing the gun show loophole and fixing the background check system, as well as tough enforcement of all federal gun laws. AGS tested voters views on Democrats and prepared a blueprint for the Party in hope that Democrats can improve their standing with gun voters by clarifying their support for the Second Amendment while continuing to promote the Party principle of common-sense gun safety laws. AGS hopes to work with Republican leadership on ways the Party can move to the center on issues like guns shows and the assault weapons ban and believes that the gun issue can be solved with bipartisan solutions. *For a copy of the poll please e-mail [email protected]


Date of Release: October, 16 2003
 
Translation: "Please talk about guns. And when you do, please mention 'Americans for Guns Safety.' And when you mention AGS, please mention that we have a PayPal account."

Rick
 
The "7-Step Blueprint" outlining how Democrats can promote responsibility and win on the gun issue will be presented to state legislators from around the country this weekend in Atlanta at a conference co-sponsored by the Democratic Leadership Council titled "God, Guns, and Guts: Seizing the Cultural Center."
Of all the asinine, dumb-posterior, inane, dimwitted, just-plain-STUPID titles for a conference... the mind boggles!

:what: :cuss: :fire: :banghead: :scrutiny: :barf:
 
Typical. If Democrats believe in gun control, they should stick to it. But they don't believe in it. They don't believe in anything. They will say whatever they have to say to get in power. Without principles in the first place, they have no problem changing their tune from day to day to whatever they think people want to hear.

Lying slime.

- Gabe
 
Taking Back the Second Amendment:

1. It is not anyone's to take back. It is an affirmation.

2. It is not that Liberals don't believe in anything; it is they will package their believes disingeniously. This is not a monopoly of Libs or 2A.

3. The GUN PROBLEM Dems have is they can't buy the pro-gun vote with gov't subsidies.
 
,,,and halfway across the river, the snake bit the woman.
"Snake, why did you bite me? Now we shall both drown and die" cried the woman.
"You knew what I was when you agreed to carry me across the river" replied the snake.
 
"in hope that Democrats can improve their standing with gun voters by clarifying their support for the Second Amendment while continuing to promote the Party principle of common-sense gun safety laws. "

Nothing like being two faced is there!
You either support the 2nd amendment or you don't.

Abenaki
 
The critical problem Dems have on the Second Amendment (and reason I can't bring myself to vote for any Democrat) is that even if the one running for Congress in my district supported the government buying a fully kitted-out M-4 (burst fire and all) for every registered voter, the party is still run by Clinton, Schumer, Feinstein, Kennedy, Pelosi, and the rest of the gun grabbers.

And that's a fact that any Republican running for office should take advantage of.

Sample generic GOP ad: "A vote for [insert Dem candidate here] is a vote to give Hilary control of your guns."
 
The title of the convention says it all:

"Seizing the Cultural Center"

The cultural center is not theirs to seize, it it theirs to align with.

The whole thing smacks of smoke, mirros, and deft hand movements.
 
In addition, voters are poised to punish Republicans for failing to fulfill their promise to enforce the nation's gun laws.

Well, maybe punish by putting a boot in their butts, but I'm sure not going to vote for a leftist as a "message" to the Bush administration...

Eighty-eight percent of gun owners were receptive to a message on the paucity of Justice Department prosecutions for lying on the background check form used to screen gun buyers.

Um, hey pal, I may not agree we need background checks, but I am not going to disagree with pursuing legal means against those who willingly lie on them. Aren't those that lie mostly straw purchasers or convicted felons anyway?

Seizing the Cultural Center

You know, I'd feel much better about this if I thought they really believed this, as opposed to "let's say anything to grab back the power"....
 
"3. The GUN PROBLEM Dems have is they can't buy the pro-gun vote with gov't subsidies"

WvaBill, that is the BEST one-sentence summary of this political issue that I have ever read.
 
...according to a poll and seven-step blueprint released today (Thursday) by Americans for Gun Safety (AGS).

The same old leftist extremists. They operate with millions upon millions of dollars in grants, but very few actual members and/or supporters. The so-called "article" is just another publicity stunt.
 
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