Internet myths,stupity and lies...

[Anteater1717]

Any Gun safe regardless of quality and construction can be broken into by any 19 year old thug who flunked out of high school, in less than 30 seconds.

Any criminal can sluff off a .22lr shot to the head.

 

[Jimmy Newman]

s a main issue weapon, I mean.

Not as "in a bin in the back they can shoot for practice along with all the lorcins and hi points".

Yeah, anonymous opinions are just that. I take them as face value, are you have problems with that?

Boy, someone should tell the FBI HRT boys that they're using an-teeks and should pick up some modern weapons.

 

[Illuminaughty]

Nah, there's some backwaters places using old revolvers and bolt actions as their main issue pistol, too I'm sure. They're the exceptions, not the rule.

 

[highorder]

you do know about the MEUSOC 1911?

 

[inherentical]

Nah, there's some backwaters places using old revolvers and bolt actions as their main issue pistol, too I'm sure. They're the exceptions, not the rule.

I'm not biting, but I'm sure someone else will.

This is part of the problem with the veil of anonymity that the internet brings.

 

[Flyboy]

.50 caliber muzzle loaders are perfectly legal for convicted felons to own because they don't require a background check to purchase.

No, a convicted felon having ANY firearm is NOT legal. Saying they can legally own muzzle loaders is as idiotic as saying they can have any other firearm done via a face-to-face transaction because there's no background check there, either.

Sorry, sony, but a swing and a miss on this one. You're right in that Federal law makes it illegal for a convicted felon to own a firearm; what you miss is that the same law defines "firearm" as "firing fixed ammunition."
http://www.atf.gov/pub/fire-explo_pub/gca.htm:

§ 921. Definitions
(a)

...

(3) The term "firearm" means (A) any weapon (including a starter gun) which will or is designed to or may readily be converted to expel a projectile by the action of an explosive; (B) the frame or receiver of any such weapon; (C) any firearm muffler or firearm silencer; or (D) any destructive device. Such term does not include an antique firearm.

...

16) The term "antique firearm" means --

(A) any firearm (including any firearm with a matchlock, flintlock, percussion cap, or similar type of ignition system) manufactured in or before 1898; and

(B) any replica of any firearm described in subparagraph (A) if such replica --

(i) is not designed or redesigned for using rimfire or conventional centerfire fixed ammunition, or

(ii) uses rimfire or conventional centerfire fixed ammunition which is no longer manufactured in the United States and which is not readily available in the ordinary channels of commercial trade.

This doesn't mean that a given state isn't more restrictive, but as far as the Feds go, felons are not prohibited from owning muzzleloading firearms.

 

[Eric F]

There is no such thing as a liberal gun owner.

But you can liberaly apply lead to a target

45-70 can kill buffalo at 2 miles

30-30 shooters think they can kill everything on the plannet

seals/delta guys are bullet proof

less capacity guns make better shooters because they have less shots

you need to carry a gun every minute of your life

Hipoint makes great guns

and my favorite my 30-06 can do anything your 45-70 can do but better.

 

[GEM]

Anybody post this:

Fear the man with one gun because he knows how to use it.

Or - he is a cheap, bastard. He bought it for self-defense and then hid it in his underwear for 20 years.

 

[sonyhoppes]

Sorry, sony, but a swing and a miss on this one. You're right in that Federal law makes it illegal for a convicted felon to own a firearm; what you miss is that the same law defines "firearm" as "firing fixed ammunition."

Maybe so, but he'll go down just the same. Heck, if he can't even have a starter pistol firing blanks, there's NO way in hell he'd be allowed to own/keep a muzzle loader capable of killing someone if he's found out. In this crazy, wacky country there are places that classify airguns as FIREarms. The muzzle loader WILL be interpreted as a firearm and it will be a bad day for the convicted felon caught with one. They work the same way as any other firearm. Power burns, gases expand and a lethal projectile comes out of the barrel.

 

[koginam]

Fat chicks are fun.
this is not true I have been married to one for 39 years and she isn't fun. plus she has more ammo then I do and won't share.

 

[Eric F]

Maybe so, but he'll go down just the same. Heck, if he can't even have a starter pistol firing blanks, there's NO way in hell he'd be allowed to own/keep a muzzle loader capable of killing someone if he's found out. In this crazy, wacky country there are places that classify airguns as FIREarms. The muzzle loader WILL be interpreted as a firearm and it will be a bad day for the convicted felon caught with one. They work the same way as any other firearm. Power burns, gases expand and a lethal projectile comes out of the barrel.

Ok hey guys some where on THR not long ago there was a Thread with a news story on how fellons can legaly own guns ie Blackpowder firearms. Some states and localities have diffrent laws but as far as the Feds are concerned its legal.

 

[Zangetsu]

"springs stored in a compressed or stretched static state will be ruined."

This is true, actually. However, there are springs out there made from special steel that do not suffer from this problem, and in most cases you'll find them used in firearms. This is why you can leave a name brand/quality magazine fully loaded for more than a year without hurting it while some no name, cheap knockoff mag would have trouble feeding the last few rounds after that.

 

[Rachen]

Obama is suddenly supporting personal firearm ownership.

And the sun is rising from the West. And pigs can fly. And gold coins are raining from the heavens. And gun-free zones are safe-havens. Just to name a few.

 

[Wesson Smith]

Any compact 1911 (that isn't an antiquated piece of crap, of course) will fail to feed, fire or eject about every 3rd mag, and isn't reliably accurate much past 15 feet.

 

[Conqueror]

Probably my most-hated myth:

"John Moses Browning didn't design it that way, so it's got no place on a 1911/BHP/etc."

Alexander Graham Bell didn't design the telephone to be cordless and have a built-in answering machine either, but none of these FUDDs complain about that. Let me have my ramped bull barrel or my 8-round magazine in peace.

Also, for a nice list of internet gun myths, visit www.bradycampaign.com

 

[possom813]

Hipoint makes great guns

I've got no complaints. Lifetime warranty and about 1000rds through the little 9mm with no ftf or fte's. At just over 100 bucks, how can anyone gripe about that? And to top it off, the wife thinks that ugly little gun is cute...

-John

 

[LMTD]

Also, for a nice list of internet gun myths, visit www.bradycampaign.com

That one tickles me! Every now and then I like to surf over there and see what is going on and find out the latest misinformation we can expect but now I am really angery and want to use them as a purchasing power for me as they have found deals that are impossible and.... well lets just look at the example!

http://www.bradycampaign.org/issues/assaultweapons/50caliber/

Sale to Civilian Population

Although primarily used by militaries around the world, the .50 caliber sniper rifle and its various types of ammunition are readily available to the public. Forbes Magazine has noted that the number of manufacturers of these sniper rifles for sale to civilians has increased from one in 1987 to possibly as many as 24 today.20 The boom in interest in the weapon propels this increased number of manufacturers. Drastic reduction in price of the .50 caliber rifle has stimulated increased sale and access to the weapons.21 A government study found that a used .50 caliber BMG sniper rifle can be purchased online for just $29.95

I now want 100 BMG's at that price. I was always kinda stupid and thought they were a bit out of my price range but when they find em going for 30 bucks, I doubt the manufacturing plant can ever keep up now that I helped make it public!!!

LOL, you know, they probably actually THINK you CAN get a BMG for 30 bucks!!

Can't fix stupid.

 

[doc2rn]

koginam ~ Fat chicks are fun. this is not true I have been married to one for 39 years and she isn't fun. plus she has more ammo then I do and won't share.

Where is Biker when you need him I cant stop laughing!

 

[Conqueror]

^^^They also have this gem:

A 2004 report on airport security at Los Angeles International Airport warned that terrorists could use.50-caliber sniper rifles to target parked and taxiing airplanes “firing over 50 shots in five minutes.”

A shot every 6 seconds? SAY IT AIN'T SO!

 

[SoCalShooter]

Hillary Clinton supports teh second amendment. (beat that)

 

[Caimlas]

Here's one that's been bothering me for a while:

There is a significant portion/majority of the population which holds traditional firearm ownership (whether they're 'traditional sporting' firearms or otherwise) as sacrosanct.

If this were true, then we'd not even have a chance of anti-gun politicians heading both political parties in a Presidential election, never mind all (but a few 'marginal' or 'dropped out') candidates in both party primaries. It would be unheard of.

As a correlary,

The NRA is a strong and powerful lobbying group.

And...

The NRA supports the personal right to keep and bear arms first and foremost, to the utmost degree.

 

[LightningJoe]

If you put an airplane on a treadmill and match it's speed, it will never take off.

That sounds reasonable to me. Unless its power to weight ratio were greater than 1:1 and it were pointed straight up. I mean, it needs to acheive a certain speed with respect to the air. If it were on a treadmill, that would be like sitting on the flight line with its wheels chocked, running up its jets. It's not just going to jump into the air.

 

[2Lman]

That sounds reasonable to me. Unless its power to weight ratio were greater than 1:1 and it were pointed straight up. I mean, it needs to acheive a certain speed with respect to the air. If it were on a treadmill, that would be like sitting on the flight line with its wheels chocked, running up its jets. It's not just going to jump into the air.

Apparently I am one of the only ones who have never heard that argued before. The answer hit me the second I read it. Power is not applied to the planes wheels to move it... it is applied to the airframe by means of its engines moving air. Therefore, the wheels may be spinning backwards on the treadmill, but the propulsion of the airframe by thrust (either jet or prop) will move it forward.

Here is more explanation, unless LightningJoe was just adding to the myths...

http://www.straightdope.com/columns/060203.html

 

[riceboy72]

Carrying a $2000 pistol will make you a better shooter.

 

[wideym]

Every poster/poser who says his father, uncle, grandpaw, neighbor, etc.. was a Navy SEAL, Para rescue, SFer, etc. in Vietnam. It usually depends on what war movie was out recently. When Air America came out suddenly everybodys relative was a pilot in the CIA.