InterOrdnance stuck it to me again-Mosin 91/30

[Tropical Z]

The first time they stuck it to me was when i ordered a Yugo SKS as they first arrived and payed $299.99 to make sure i got a nice one.I had no idea of the future supply of these at the time.They sent me a nice one that was thrown together from 3 different rifles.I sent it back and got a matching nice one in return.Today i picked up one of their "nicest ones weve ever seen-excellent to like new" Mosin Nagant 91/30's.It does have all matching numbers including bayonet and the accessories are in nice shape,but the crest on the receiver has been GROUND OFF before refinishing! Why would a Russian Mosin have a ground off crest? Its real obvious,and the only things left are the serial number,an arrow pointing up in a triangle,1943,and a Y in a circle.The handguard has several nice scrapes in it.Im keeping it as its not worth the hassle of returning it when it cost me $100.00 in hand.It is worth it as far as its potential and the fact that it shoots a fairly powerful round,but dang it anyway! InterOrdnance knows they are shipping these and they're remaining quiet about it.

 

[DMK]

It does have all matching numbers including bayonet and the accessories are in nice shape,but the crest on the receiver has been GROUND OFF before refinishing! Why would a Russian Mosin have a ground off crest?

That's common. You can't blame IO, the Russians did it. After the Bolshivek revolution, they didn't very much like the imperial crest on stuff anymore. That grind spot is a stark indication of the rich history that rifle went through.

If you think that's bad, take a look at the Finn mosins one day. They often ground all kinds of stuff off including the date under the rear tang(which may today identify it as a legal antique).

Please take no offence, but try not to be so picky. These are surplus rifles. The little blemishes here and there are part of collecting and sometimes these little things have interesting stories behind them.

Now, the stock scrapes, if they are really bad, might be something to complain about for the condition you paid for.

 

[Tropical Z]

So if the possibility exists that its an older rifle,then why is the receiver stamped 1943? I have three M44's and their crests (soviet) are intact.That would make sense if its an imperial gun.I need to research the serial number and see what i come up with.If anybody knows,its an upside down U,capital small r 55XX

 

[pbhome71]

It sounds like the 1943 date is on the barrel. This is not the date that the receiver was made, but the date of when the barrel was made. The y in the circle is a proof mark.

The real date of the receiver is on the underside of the tang of the receiver.
You may want remove the receiver from the stock and check the date.

-Pat

 

[Bill Hook]

I'm surprised I/O didn't put a scope on it and sell it as a sniper.

They have an honesty problem there.

 

[Dave Markowitz]

Tropical Z,

The date is probably stamped on the barrel, not the receiver.

Also, is the receiver octagonal? If so, then as someone else already pointed out, the crest was almost certainly ground off by the Soviets, because it bore the Tsarist crest. That puts the receiver's date of manufacture as 1917 or earlier. Most 91/30s have round receivers, btw.

 

[Tropical Z]

You guys are right.DOH!
The 1943 IS on the barrel.It is a round receiver however.The triangle with an arrow in it appears in several places on the gun as well as some illegible apparently "branded" marks on the stock.There is an X and a 2 on the stock in front of the magazine.I guess i should reconsider my criticism of the rifle.If might have seen action in WWI,the revolution and WWII.History does matter when purchasing these weapons.Who knows what its seen!

 

[bigmtnman]

Next time you're in the market for a really nice Mosin Nagant order it from aztecguns.com in Ocala, FL. Really good people and excellent guns. They even clean 95% of the cosmoline off before it's shipped to you.

 

[Cosmoline]

IIRC the round receivers first appeared in around 1934. So if you have a round receiver, it would never have had a czarist crest. What appears to be ground off is probably just worn off and re-arsenaled. How's the bore on that thing?

Aztec is a lot better, BTW.

 

[Tropical Z]

Ok,first off its still covered in cosmo.Bore condition is unknown at this time.Using the clues at the website below,it appears to be all Ishevsk with the exception of the bolt body which is Tula.It definitely has the round receiver and its definitely been ground.Its SUPER obvious.The only mark i was unable to identify is a backwards capital R in a diamond which is in two places on the stock.
www.mosin-nagant.net

 

[Houndawg]

Why would you go to IO and pay $100 when you could go to AIM and pay around $60+shipping?

 

[Tropical Z]

The rifle with shipping was $75.00 and my FFL 's transfer fee was $25.00.I need to get a C&R license!!!

 

[Bill Hook]

Yep. You nearly paid for the 03 with his transfer fee.