hamourkiller
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The only thing better than a caught child molester is a DEAD child molester! I am glad the one in Dallas is dead! We dont need such scum in Texas.
"Entrapment" is getting somebody to do something which they had no previous inclination to do. These guys are in those chat rooms SPECIFICALLY to commit statutory rape. Some of them have prior convictions for molestation and statutory rape. They KNOW what they're doing is wrong, and they've got no right to be surprised when it comes back to bite them.Well, you could argue that they use entrapment, which is a tactic many disagree with.
Would you rather they catch them after they've molested a child?
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Would you rather they catch them after they've molested a child?
Respectfully, that's the way our system of justice is supposedto work. Catch and punish after a crime was committed, not entrap people into thought crimes.
There is an explosion of child molestation in the US. We need dozens more sting operations like the one run by Date Line.
Knowing Perverted Justice more intimately than your average user, I can say that they're utter lowlifes. They ruin people's lives, regardless of the facts. They're a loosely-defined mob with no regard for the JUSTICE and all the concern for the PERVERSION. It really is "Perverted Justice".
They're not helping cops, they're not helping kids, they're not doing anything but entertaining Americans who know nothing about stings, cops, pedophiles, or the Internet.
I personally see this show as an attack on the Internet, and by extension, an attack upon free speech.
Internet predator sting snares Los Angeles County Sheriff's Department deputy
http://www.courttv.com/news/2007/1128/inside-predator-task-force_ctv.html
By Mallory Simon
Court TV
A California sheriff's deputy arrested in a sting operation targeting Internet child predators was charged Tuesday with two felonies for allegedly trying to meet someone whom he thought was a 13-year-old girl for sex.
Los Angeles County Sheriff's Department deputy Joseph Mican Abadla Carlos, 31, was charged with meeting a minor for lewd purposes and an attempted lewd act upon a child under the age of 14.
The sting by the South Bay Predator Task Force, which resulted in the arrest of Carlos and three other men, was filmed by Court TV as part of a special called "Inside: Predator Task Force." The task force, created by the Hawthorne Police Department with detectives from six other police departments, arrested 15 people during its 12-day operation. (VIDEO)
The show examines the task force's efforts to track down predators by logging the conversations adults have with decoys, whom they believe are underage girls. It follows officers as they arrange meetings with the suspects, set up surveillance and make arrests once the suspects make contact with the decoy.
In March, a police detective posing as a 13-year-old girl began chatting online with a person police believed to be Carlos. In the chat, the person said he wanted to have sex with the girl and asked her to call him. A 25-year-old volunteer, who would later pose as the girl, called the number to set up a meeting.
When the man questioned the volunteer about her age and why she was interested in meeting him, she said she was an eighth grader who was "curious" about "sex."
The man told the volunteer, "You don't sound 13."
"I'm kind of worried," he said. "This could be a sting operation or something. Is it?"
The volunteer tried to reassure him, but the man continued to press the issue. He asked her to "promise" and "swear" that it was not a sting.
"You're not a cop, are you?" he asked.
After she said no, he asked if she still wanted to meet. They agreed to meet at a Chevron gas station in Inglewood. She told him she would ride her bike to the station.
Police officers set up surveillance in and around the gas station as the decoy waited for the person, who had identified himself as "Joe."
In the filmed encounter, Carlos drove into the gas station, got out of his car and walked up to the decoy.
After Carlos told her he was "Joe," officers jumped out of their vehicles and ordered him to the ground. When police checked his pockets, they found a box of condoms.
"I'm so sorry," Carlos said. "I'll never do this again, I swear."
Carlos told them he was a deputy and that he had a weapon in his car.
"You just disgraced us," Sgt. Ti Goetz said to Carlos. "This is our worst fear come true."
"Mine too," Carlos said.
He pleaded with the officers, asking if he could "just go home."
"I would say you are in serious trouble, brother," an officer replied.
On the tape, Goetz said he was "thoroughly embarrassed" to arrest another police officer for trying to have sex with a minor.
"I'm all for catching predators," Goetz said. "But I'm really disappointed to get this one."
Carlos was placed in a squad car and taken in for questioning. Detectives asked him whether they would find any child pornography if they searched his computer.
Carlos, banging his hand on the table, insisted they would find nothing.
When pressed about the computer, Carlos put his head on his arm and began to cry.
"Once in a while there's a bad apple that gets into law enforcement, just like anywhere else," one of the officers said on the tape. "We all have a black eye now."
Carlos has been free on bail since his arrest on March 31.
He was placed on paid leave following the arrest, according to a press release from the district attorney's office, but on Nov. 9, a spokesman for Los Angeles County Sheriff Lee Baca said the department had begun termination proceedings against Carlos.
He faces four years in state prison if convicted.
"Inside: Predator Task Force" will air on December 2 at 10 p.m. ET on Court TV.
I am wondering why it is no longer a predator issue when the girl turns 18?And it is a predator problem. We see it happen quite often, and we need to be aware of it, and on the look out for it.
But Laura, who chats posing as a girl between the ages of 10 and 13, admits that the men who take her bait haven't committed any crime: "It's a fine line. These guys are showing their intentions, they're taking overt steps for hooking up with a child, but technically they haven't done it, so from a law-enforcement point of view there is nothing to arrest yet."
There's no arrest, no charge, no reading of Miranda rights, no trial by jury for the guys whose mugs appear on the Perverted Justice site. The "charge" is simply "wannabe pedophile." After volunteers from the site call to confirm their phone numbers, they are literally tried in the Internet court of public opinion; <snip>
The crime doesn't occur until they attempt to meet the kid or they actually meet the kid with the intent to have sex. What they say on the Internet and what they say on the phone just isn't enough."
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On his profile, Frank Fencepost offers a list of what outraged readers of the site should not (wink), do with the phone numbers of the men who appear on the site: "Posting these numbers in Gay Phone Sex Chat:1 is a terrible, terrible thing. Don't do THAT ... please, don't do THAT. Do not offer these phone numbers to Jehovah's Witnesses, telling them that you need as many prayer meetings as you can get."
Respectfully, you are wrong. That is why we have "Attempt" to commit a crime. That's why these men are being charged with "Attempting to solicit sex with a minor", and NOT "Sex with a minor".
There is an explosion of child molestation in the US.
But they're not soliciting sex from a minor, they're soliciting sex from another adult pretending to be a kid. Creepy, but I really don't see a crime here.