ITFS (point shooting) with Brownie course went very well

[hso]

We finished this past weekend with 11 new people introduced to Integrated Threat Focused Shooting taught by Brownie. There were also 3 folks from April's course.

Some folks were experienced shooters that had taken other handgun courses other places and some were new to shooting with less than an hour's time handling a handgun.

Everyone did very well and performed safely (I'm as proud of that as anything when you consider how many times the guns were drawn from holster, fired and returned to the holster all without a single misshap! ). The new shooters as well as the folks with prior training came out of it with the ability to draw quickly and put rounds on the BG fast while moving away from the threat.

I hope some of the folks on the forum will recount their experience in the class for everyone. I'm obviously a proponent of point shooting for when close/fast defensive handgun use is required and I'm sure folks are tired of me singing it's praises.

JMusic and I want to thank Brownie for coming out and providing the training and Paul Ward and Frank Brewer for their help setting up and making things go well.

 

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hso:

does Brownie have any printed material from his course? And where does he advertise his classes? I'd love to know when he will teach out here in SoCal.

 

[hso]

Just drop him an email or coast over to their site. Since he's in AZ it should be no trouble to visit him in the flesh.
http://www.threatfocused.com/forums/index.php

 

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Thank you hso.

registered. reading now.

 

[brownie0486]

JMusic and I want to thank Brownie for coming out and providing the training and Paul Ward and Frank Brewer for their help setting up and making things go well.

HSO,

I want to thank you and Jim Music for all the help on the range over the weekend as well as Frank who helped with safety at the back area where mags were being reloaded.

The weekend sure was long days and lots of shooting, no question there.

The women in the course were quite upset at the way their guns ran in the one handed drills, some limp wristing problems as well as mechanical but the second day proved they could hold their own with the guys there.

Thanks to Jim here as well for loaning Craigs wife Linda his Smith snub after hers went belly up on Saturday. I'm sure she was very happy to be able to get through the weekend with the 38 spl.

To both you, Gwen and Jim Music and his wife for the superb hospitality while I was there, you folks make it very easy to come into the area and not only feel like a welcomed guest but more importantly, like the good friends you have become. Thats appreciated more than I can ever express.

I also want to thank Paul for his efforts in helping with setting up this event, his participation and support in out program of instruction. His work in making this as succesful as it was is greatly appreciated as well.

I'm thinking we'll be seeing some new faces registering and some reviews/comments from them here in the coming weeks as well. Many expressed the desire to come out to my place and stay for some one on one after getting their feet wet this weekend.

Edited to add:

We change them targets out enough for the students this time Mike?

 

[hso]

We change them targets out enough for the students this time Mike?

I'm investing in paper stocks even as we speak.

 

[brownie0486]

HSO,

I wrote this over on our site but thought this should also be here:

Dan has some students all ready to go sometime in late April or early May of 07. That timeframe is what we are shooting for at the moment. Mike [ HSO ] stated it would NOT be the weekend of Knob Creek this time around like last spring. He's also going to set up a shoot house on the property for the rifle Quick Kill class we'll be presenting at that time as well.

Speaking of Dan, this event last weekend was as big a success as it was due to his gratiousness in allowing us to use a portion of his dads 600 acre farm as anything else.

Another point of interest I should mention where Dan is concerned is this:

The subject of my Enhanced Peripheral Vision [ EPV ] training came up while on the range. Dan accepted the offer to demonstrate for the other students what he and a few others had only briefly been shown at the first class in Knoxville.

At a distance of 12 feet he took two guns and simultaneously made rapid multiple shots from each on two threats that were approximately 10 feet apart without looking at either one directly. These shots were what can only be described as rapid fire from both guns. ALL of his shots were perfectly centered on both threats.

The result of this demonstration? The whole class broke out in a huge round of applause. Quite impressive to see a student who learned the EPV skills in just a few minutes just 6 months ago be able to perform like this.

He's obviously been training hard at the skills he learned in the last class. He was nothing short of phenominal all weekend with all the skills we covered. I'm glad that he's one of the good guys down there.

Hope you can make the next one. Missed seeing you there as well but understand about Knob Creek.

Mike,
When you see Dan, tell him his considerable skills are recognized will you please?

Forgot to add: JMusic and HSO can perform the EPV skills as well.

And another point I'd like to make is that Frank really did make my job easier in every way with keeping me loaded with fresh mags. His efforts made it so much easier to concentrate on the students and not have to run back for more mag reloads. His also loaned me his g22/23 this time around in Knoxville. Had never shot a g22/23 before and it was good to get some experience on a 40S+W for a change.

Brownie

 

[brownie0486]

JMusic did not disappoint both on his help of setting up and supplying the stands, targets and running range safety with HSO, but also his impressive shooting skills.

Jim broke out his Kimber for the weekend. At one point we were timing students for three shots on threat [ not from the draw, but as an exercise of trigger speed ] and Jim could not be beat. His time was .48 for three rounds, all COM on the threat [ of course ]. The students could see he had some "background" with a handgun and had fired a round or two in his lifetime

Thanks again Jim for all your efforts.

Brownie

 

[JMusic]

As others have said the course went well. What is inspiring to me is the diviersity of the crowd and the enthusiasm displayed. We have a mixture of male and female shooters, experienced and novice shooters. All seemed to enjoy themselves and thought the course gave them some good tools to use if the nightmare happens. I'll take the liberty of speaking for myself and hso. Our goal is to educate the public, and offer a certain skill set that allows the individual to protect themselves. We strive to give confidence through aquired skills. So far we have had positive reports from our students. We do not advocate one style of shooting over another and will report what we see in the class. Our goal is to furnish to the class members skillful instructors that can furnish the above. Here is a set of pics with hso's better half demonstrating how to shoot and move off of center. Take care.

Jim

 

[taliv]

my impressions of the class

I took this class for the first time and enjoyed it thoroughly. It's good practice and I learned some interesting techniques. One thing I liked about it was that we went right to the material without a lot of tired introductory stuff. (the corollary is that I'd recommend new shooters take a basic safety and gun handling class before attending this class to learn to draw, change mags, clear jams safely)

Based on the makeup of the class, I think they did an excellent job of picking techniques and teaching them in a logical order that let people grasp them and work them into the next technique. And I'm glad they didn't push too early into the drills with movement.

I especially appreciated Hso hosting the group friday night so we could get to know each other a bit.

By far the most impressive thing I saw this weekend was Dan's groups shooting rapid with two guns at two targets

thanks guys

 

[hso]

Taliv,

Thanks. Cool toy you got there, also.

I'd like to make the range commands a little more consistant next time when we have beginners on the line since some of them weren't exactly sure of the variations that got used at times. Brownie's got enough to do trianing and tweaking skills. I might play Range Master and ask Jim and Paul and Frank to RSO and help with mechanical problems.

Good sequence of pictures Jim. The objective was to get everyone to the defensive skill of putting rounds on target while moving off-line from the target. Makes it harder for the BG to injure you if you get off the center line while delivering fire. Seemed everyone got that pretty well.

 

[brownie0486]

We'll also be holding the "Fighting at Night" course described here:

http://www.threatfocused.com/forums/showthread.php?t=525

when we get back to Knoxville in the spring in a shooting house environment.

Should be fun and quite enlightening

Brownie

 

[JMusic]

Talked to Dan and he thinks he can come up with a couple of old vehicles. Might even do a little "skip" shootin with the riot guns.

Jim

 

[hso]

Don't you have to have pavement to skip shot?

 

[JMusic]

Nope. We'll discuss I'll give you a call.

Jim

 

[JMusic]

First picture is of a friend of mine named Steve. Steve has had very little training with a handgun. More importantly he has carpaltunnel so bad the he can barely write his name. He consistently hit com probably was in the top third of the class. Second shot is of hso in his Hawaii 5 O disguise.

Jim