Its coming: FBI: Look Out for Hidden Bombers

[M1911]

This kind of political analysis is of a sophistication I haven't seen in AQ stunts.

Really? They managed to defeat the conservative government in Spain with the well-timed, well-coordinated railway bombing and in doing so, get the Spanish Army withdrawn from Iraq.

Seems quite sophisticated and successful to me.

 

[Mil Novecientos Once]

No wonder that, in the past week or so, I have seen cops stopping and searching homeless folks pushing shopping carts full of junk.

That's scary because there are lots of people like that in all major cities and we just don't care to look closely a them.

some telltale signs of a homicide bomber would be heavy bulky clothing on warm days

I guess many THRs will stop wearing their vests or other covering garments this summer.

 

[denny]

Mil Novecientos Once Posted:

I guess many THRs will stop wearing their vests or other covering garments this summer.

Was browsing Blogger.com and came across this:

http://whoseparanoid.blogspot.com/2004/05/from-drudge-officials-to-look-for.html

I figured he meant the same thing.

Denny

 

[jimpeel]

So the test of vigilance would be to splash on Hai Karate, put on a ski jacket in June, and have an extension cord trailing behind you to see how long it would take for someone to actually notice.

 

[denny]

jimpeel,

Huh?

Denny

 

[jimpeel]

denny

Smell of chemicals, heavy clothing, dangling wires ... get it?

From the thread header:

In the lightly classified intelligence bulletin, the FBI (search) said some telltale signs of a homicide bomber would be heavy bulky clothing on warm days, a chemical smell or people wearing jackets with wires hanging out. Bombers may also tightly clench their fists in which they could be gripping detonators.

 

[denny]

jimpeel,

Just to let you know, I am shaking my head in disgust at myself for missing the obvious.

Denny

 

[jimpeel]

denny

SOUND FILE. CLICK HERE

 

[denny]

jimpeel,

Thanks!

Good chuckle.

Denny

 

[hammer4nc]

IIRC, we/ve had at least a couple upgrades to "code orange" terror threat level since 9/11. While I'm sure additional security measures were moblized behind the scenes (i.e., for high profile landmarks and large sporting events), not a whole lot of impact on the average citizen's daily routine.

I'm thinking that a few suicide bombings in the USA could result in "code red". There's been remakably little publicity about what exactly that would mean...things like roadblocks, warrantless searches, suspension of firearms carry permits...or worse? These are just a few things that come to mind.

I know we have some senior LE and emergency mamagement people on this board; who have practiced worst case scenarios, and probably have handbooks covering protocols and likely agency responses.

I'd like to hear from these folks what kinds of response we should expect if attacks were launched. Or is it verboten to divulge such information?

 

[jimpeel]

hammer4nc

You're right. Remember whan the antis in Congress wanted to suspend all firearms permits and sales if the threat level was in "Yellow" or above? The problem with that is that we have never been below "Yellow" since the inception of the system. That means that there would have been no sales of firearms for the past three years; and the firearms manufacturers which did not have government contracts would all have been out of business by now.

I believe that if the threat level goes to "Red" as you stated, it would unleash the dogs of war right here in America as those who value liberty and freedom take up arms against their own government. Martial law will NOT go over well in this country.

 

[Justin Moore]

I believe that if the threat level goes to "Red" as you stated, it would unleash the dogs of war right here in America as those who value liberty and freedom take up arms against their own government. Martial law will NOT go over well in this country.

Former Nixon staffer John Dean has recently stated that martial law IS the plan in the event of a WMD attack. Make of that what you will.

I remember seeing a clip of the questioning of Oliver North. One of the Congresscreatures asked him about the COG/Martial Law plans that he was involved in drawing up. That is, until one of the OTHER congresscritters basically told him to 'shut up about it' in public.

Nice.

http://www.smh.com.au/articles/2002/07/27/1027497418339.html

Foundations are in place for martial law in the US

By Ritt Goldstein
July 27 2002

Recent pronouncements from the Bush Administration and national security initiatives put in place in the Reagan era could see internment camps and martial law in the United States.

When president Ronald Reagan was considering invading Nicaragua he issued a series of executive orders that provided the Federal Emergency Management Agency (FEMA) with broad powers in the event of a "crisis" such as "violent and widespread internal dissent or national opposition against a US military invasion abroad". They were never used.

But with the looming possibility of a US invasion of Iraq, recent pronouncements by President George Bush's domestic security chief, Tom Ridge, and an official with the US Civil Rights Commission should fire concerns that these powers could be employed or a de facto drift into their deployment could occur.

On July 20 the Detroit Free Press ran a story entitled "Arabs in US could be held, official warns". The story referred to a member of the US Civil Rights Commission who foresaw the possibility of internment camps for Arab Americans. FEMA has practised for such an occasion.

FEMA, whose main role is disaster response, is also responsible for handling US domestic unrest.

From 1982-84 Colonel Oliver North assisted FEMA in drafting its civil defence preparations. Details of these plans emerged during the 1987 Iran-Contra scandal.

They included executive orders providing for suspension of the constitution, the imposition of martial law, internment camps, and the turning over of government to the president and FEMA.

A Miami Herald article on July 5, 1987, reported that the former FEMA director Louis Guiffrida's deputy, John Brinkerhoff, handled the martial law portion of the planning. The plan was said to be similar to one Mr Giuffrida had developed earlier to combat "a national uprising by black militants". It provided for the detention "of at least 21million American Negroes"' in "assembly centres or relocation camps".

Today Mr Brinkerhoff is with the highly influential Anser Institute for Homeland Security. Following a request by the Pentagon in January that the US military be allowed the option of deploying troops on American streets, the institute in February published a paper by Mr Brinkerhoff arguing the legality of this.

He alleged that the Posse Comitatus Act of 1878, which has long been accepted as prohibiting such deployments, had simply been misunderstood and misapplied.

The preface to the article also provided the revelation that the national plan he had worked on, under Mr Giuffrida, was "approved by Reagan, and actions were taken to implement it".

By April, the US military had created a Northern Command to aid Homeland defence. Reuters reported that the command is "mainly expected to play a supporting role to local authorities".

However, Mr Ridge, the Director of Homeland Security, has just advocated a review of US law regarding the use of the military for law enforcement duties.

Disturbingly, the full facts and final contents of Mr Reagan's national plan remain uncertain. This is in part because President Bush took the unusual step of sealing the Reagan presidential papers last November. However, many of the key figures of the Reagan era are part of the present administration, including John Poindexter, to whom Oliver North later reported.

At the time of the Reagan initiatives, the then attorney-general, William French Smith, wrote to the national security adviser, Robert McFarlane: "I believe that the role assigned to the Federal Emergency Management Agency in the revised Executive Order exceeds its proper function as a co-ordinating agency for emergency preparedness ... this department and others have repeatedly raised serious policy and legal objections to an 'emergency czar' role for FEMA."

Criticism of the Bush Administration's response to September11 echoes Mr Smith's warning. On June 7 the former presidential counsel John Dean spoke of America's sliding into a "constitutional dictatorship" and martial law.

Time to try to find the actual EO's.

 

[GSB]

When the wave of suicide bombings hits, we'll move into a new and far more deadly phase of the war. There won't be much talk about limiting collateral damage and honoring the Geneva Convention.

I guess it's all just navel gazing at this point, but I not sure that would be the case at all. A lot of people I talk to would probably just demand further curtailments of civil liberties and then opine about how America (and George Bush) is at fault for everything evil and rotten in the world. I talk to these people every day, and there appear to be a lot of them. I don't understand them and I guess they don't understand me.