Jeh Johnson: Gun control is now a matter of homeland security
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Interview with Louis Gohmert and a former NYPD detective today, Gohmert brought a lot more information about this:
http://video.foxnews.com/v/49466711...-homeland-security-leadership/?#sp=show-clips
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4evernbljns
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George Soros pawn Rebecca Peters used this method to disarm Australia. Killary has mentioned this as a model America should emulate. That gun violence is a public health issue.
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TimSr
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We've had 9 Islamic terrorist attacks over the last 7 years, and they continue to frame this as a domestic crime issue.
Mosbyranger
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These are dark days indeed. Islamic terrorists attack and politicians immediately pivot to their pet issue of gun control, aided and abetted by their media lapdogs. Yes, it's coming at us from all sides. God help us should Hillary win and the Dems get control of the Senate. The UN small arms treaty will immediately become the law of the land. The new SCOTUS judge ( Chucky Schumer?) will swing the court far far left and mandate that the 2nd amendment means nothing. Time to take a noobie shooting and try to get more people to see that we firearm owners are not the slobbering murders that they have been told about. Time for individual outreach from all of us to counter the fear mongering one person at a time,
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captainamerica
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If our lying, deceitful, Constitution-attacking "domestic" enemies were being held accountable at the ballot box they would NOT be able to continue like this; but it will continue as long as they have 1 in 2 Americans too distracted, too brainwashed, too apathetic, or too stupid to care about the Second Amendment and what will happen when firearms are taken from the citizens.
The truth is that while we just lost 49 people to an act of terrorism (with some possible personal grudge as a motivation), since January of this year there were 280 homicides in Chicago. According to the Chicago Tribune, there were 64 in May alone.
http://crime.chicagotribune.com/chicago/homicides
We're all distracted and running around with our hair on fire over the threat of terrorism, but "regular" Americans commit many more acts of violence. Just something to keep it in perspective.
http://crime.chicagotribune.com/chicago/homicides
We're all distracted and running around with our hair on fire over the threat of terrorism, but "regular" Americans commit many more acts of violence. Just something to keep it in perspective.
In my opinion, the nation, under an Obama who, it seems to me, wants nothing less than to bring the USA, as we have known it, to its knees, and the likes of the Clinton Crime Cartel waiting to move back into the White House, we are facing the greatest threat to our freedoms we have faced since the first American Civil War. If the GOP caves, I fear there will be nothing left but the watering of "the tree of liberty." Surrender to these jackels is out of the question. We must all let our representatives in Congress know that if they want to preserve their place at the hog trough, they had best not compromise the Second Amendment. And while we are at it, send as much money as we can afford to the NRA and Gun Owners of America.
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More stringent gun control to protect us against terrorists? Doesn't make sense. Johnson is just following the Obama-Clinton game plan. Maybe they need to figure out how to do their jobs and new laws are not the answer. These people just want a Australia-England type gun environment in the US. It does not fit with the US heritage. Keep telling yourself, we are not sheep, we are the sheep herder.
OilyPablo
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THR has it figured out.
22-rimfire
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Maybe gay clubs just need to post a sign saying "no assault weapons" allowed here. That would work just about as well as a new law.
Maybe we all need a review of the Presidential Oath of Office,,,
http://www.presidentsusa.net/oathofoffice.html
http://www.presidentsusa.net/oathofoffice.html
Deanimator
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- Only if you consider sharia law "a personal grudge".
- The GLARING difference is that, by and large, if I avoid the drug trade and those involved in it, I probably WON'T get shot, even in Chiraq. The only "justification" an islamist needs for shooting me is for me to not BE an islamist. If you're GAY? That makes it a matter of URGENT business to shoot... or behead, or defenestrate you.
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Widespread Sharia law in the US ain't gonna happen. There are only about 3 million Muslims in the US. There is a poll saying 51% of Muslims polled in the US want to live under Sharia law. I think that poll is likely intentionally skewed to paint a more extremist & scary picture of Muslims, but even if it isn't, that's about one half of one per cent of the population of the US. You'll have to forgive me if I don't panic over that one.
And yes, an Islamic terrorist may want to kill you just for being you. Someone else may want to kill you for being near a Planned Parenthood. Another person may want to kill you for being a black Christian in a South Carolina church. Humanity is a mess sometimes. Keep your eyes open, take what precautions you can, hope for the best but try to prepare for the worst. We'll get by.
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I think the AMA should focus on the blood in their own backyard, considering the fact that medical mistakes are now the third leading cause of death in the US.
https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/to-your-health/wp/2016/05/03/researchers-medical-errors-now-third-leading-cause-of-death-in-united-states/
"...Their analysis, published in the BMJ on Tuesday, shows that “medical errors” in hospitals and other health-care facilities are incredibly common and may now be the third-leading cause of death in the United States — claiming 251,000 lives every year, more than respiratory disease, accidents, stroke and Alzheimer’s...."
OilyPablo
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Good point!!!~
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It's all about Tyranny. This administration is a prime example of why the 2nd is in there to begin with. They may be nervous that we are reaching a critical juncture in our Country where we simply aren't going to take this crap anymore. It would make perfect sense to disarm an angry populace Before they get organized, and remove the Administration from power.
I strongly believe we are close to the edge right now, and a little push, by way of another "911" type of incident, will push us into an internal conflict, that will forever change the Country. Depending on how it turned out, we could get our Country back the way it was intended to be governed.
But it will be messy, and lives will be lost. I Don't see American gun owners suddenly giving up all of their guns, "I feel that is where they will push it" if they get a foothold. I am willing to give my life for the Freedoms that my Father, Uncles, and the Generation before them fought a few wars for.
I sure as hell am not about to allow them to have died in vein to keep the Freedoms we have today.
I strongly believe we are close to the edge right now, and a little push, by way of another "911" type of incident, will push us into an internal conflict, that will forever change the Country. Depending on how it turned out, we could get our Country back the way it was intended to be governed.
But it will be messy, and lives will be lost. I Don't see American gun owners suddenly giving up all of their guns, "I feel that is where they will push it" if they get a foothold. I am willing to give my life for the Freedoms that my Father, Uncles, and the Generation before them fought a few wars for.
I sure as hell am not about to allow them to have died in vein to keep the Freedoms we have today.
Red Wind
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That is the gospel truth.The last 7+ years shows that in glaring evidence. Ah, it's all hopeless! :banghead:
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What kind of a first name is "Jeh?"
Switzerland has more guns per capita than we do? They do not seem to have our Gang and Drug problems? How come?
Every were Obama goes, he is surrounded by Armed Secret Service Agents, but seems to not want we, the general public to be armed?
I can not see the logic in that.
I hope Mr. Trump is watching his back!
Switzerland has more guns per capita than we do? They do not seem to have our Gang and Drug problems? How come?
Every were Obama goes, he is surrounded by Armed Secret Service Agents, but seems to not want we, the general public to be armed?
I can not see the logic in that.
I hope Mr. Trump is watching his back!
Deanimator
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This isn't and never was about "widespread sharia law". It's about animals who WANT widespread sharia law.
It only took one to shoot up the Ft. Hood PAC and Pulse. It only took two to shoot up a Christmas party in San Bernardino.
And just how MANY people IS that?
It's not a question of "may". It's a certainty of DOES. The question is when and where he'll choose to do it and whether I'll be there.
How many Planned Parenthood centers were shot up in the last ten years? How many Black churches?
Other than shills for the Muslim Brotherhood, NOBODY is buying the nonsense that an ONGOING AND GROWING THREAT GUIDED BY A COHERENT IDEOLOGICAL MOVEMENT is equivalent to random nuts with individual grudges. It's like equating 9/11 to the B-25 that crashed into the Empire State Building.
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Deanimator said:
Yep, there is a coherent effort to promote militant Islamic violence worldwide. We helped plant the seeds for it by invading a country that didn't have anything to do with 9/11, then leaving that huge space governed by divisive morons. It was fertile ground for extremist ideology to take root and thrive in. We never should have gone in the first place, but I was fooled into supporting that too. Now here we are.
Statistically though, my chances of being killed by a terrorist are much lower than my chances of being killed by falling down, or by a mistake from the doctor who would treat me for falling down. I'm not going to run around in a panic just because CNN keeps reminding me every twelve minutes that it's a scary world. It's always been a scary world, and it's always been prudent to keep the means to defend yourself on hand.
Deanimator
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And that's COMPLETELY irrelevant to children, not born when the U.S. invaded Iraq, dismembered by the Tsarnaev brothers. It's not relevant to a bunch of gay men and lesbians in a disco either.
The people in the Ft. Hood PAC fell down because a sniveling coward shot them.
The people in Boston fell down because their legs were blown off.
The people in Pulse fell down because a sniveling coward shot them.
And NONE of them were killed by a doctor. They were killed an IDEOLOGY, and ideology that the current junta is determined not to even RECOGNIZE, nevermind fight. They're FAR too obsessed with fighting lawful gun owners. But then they don't HATE the islamists...
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The Middle East, Africa, and Europe have all experienced acts of terrorism recently. I'd suggest that the acts which take place on our soil are part of this trend. Our actions abroad have impacted the stability of the Middle East, and this ideology you correctly identify has thrived in the vacuum.
Now I'm not apologizing for the current administration. I didn't vote for them, I don't support much of what they do, and their actions against gun owners are divisive and wrong-headed for a hundred reasons. I'm simply arguing that we don't benefit when we allow our reasoning skills diluted by anger and fear.
And whether you realize it or not, there is A LOT of anger coming through your posts. I'm seriously not trying to be rude, but I think you should take a break from THR for day or two and go put some .38 reloads into some aluminum cans or steel targets. Based on personal experience, I can almost guarantee you that you'll enjoy that far more than frustrating online discussions.
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Deanimator
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And shockingly, none of it seems to have ANYTHING to do with the Book of Mormon.
I'm going to go out on a limb and suggest that ignoring the CENTRAL GUIDING MOTIVATION behind all of them is sub-optimal policy.
Attacking the potential victims and attempting to render them disarmed and helpless is simply insane... or part of a strategy.
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