Jump on it. Public Radio tries to "cook" a poll

[PATH]

Still 97% in favor of sanity and 3% still don't get it!

Go and vote folks. The poll is in small print towards the bottom!

 

[The Grand Inquisitor]

I think those of you who think it was a bad poll need to go back and really look at it. That was the most fair minded and logical polls I have ever seen. Using dueling arguements is a brilliant way to take opinions and I wish the mainstread pollsters (Zogby, Gallup....) had an eight of the integrity and honesty of this NPR poll. I think some of those who hate this are doing it upon an irrational Rush Limbaugh/Bill O'Reilley induced doctrinal hatred on NPR and the other mythical "liiiberal" media.

 

[mrapathy2000]

Yes:89 3%

No:2628 97%

 

[OF]

I think you guys are missing the point...the poll presents the alternative viewpoint based on how you vote. And aside from a couple things in the 'anti' argument, it does a pretty good job of it.

That was the most fair minded and logical polls I have ever seen.

I agree. It's a very cool idea and shows a remarkable even-handedness - all the more remarkable because it's KQED!

This is also already being discussed here.

- Gabe

 

[Felonious Monk]

The one thing I DO like about how it is structured: it forces participants to NOT just vote in such a way that perpetuates "don't confuse me with the arguments, I have my mind made up" thinking.

To see the direction someone is leaning, provide additional points to the contrary side, and allow someone to confirm or change their stance is an exercise in getting people to THINK and consider both sides of an issue...an oft neglected process for many.

Well done, IMO.
And I'm really glad we're kicking the TAR out of the anti voters!

FM

 

[MeekandMild]

To see the direction someone is leaning, provide additional points to the contrary side, and allow someone to confirm or change their stance is an exercise in getting people to THINK and consider both sides of an issue...an oft neglected process for many.

I don't believe it, felonious. I believe the purpose is to abstract the voters who change their vote based on one or the other of the given arguments, then to do a breakdown based on which arguments converted the greatest number of voters, from no to yes i.e. which arguments are most seductive. Then they abstract the voters who change from no to yes and they find which arguments are the weakest.

What you will see form this poll is in a few weeks they will start pushing the strongest anti RKBA arguments and will find shills to advocate the weakest pro RKBA arguments.

This is done in other propaganda efforts as well. You will notice that whenever they discuss abortion they always choose the most rational proabortion advocates versus the biggest crackpot antiabortion advocates. Same with affirmative action, Palestinian liberation, animal welfare and all the other mainstay Liberal causes.

I think some of those who hate this are doing it upon an irrational Rush Limbaugh/Bill O'Reilley induced doctrinal hatred on NPR and the other mythical "liiiberal" media.

And I think that some of those who love it are doing so on basis of radical leftist induced doctrinal hatred of an armed, free, self determining populace.

 

[Cool Hand Luke 22:36]

Pardon, not debating theology here, but the Christian Identity movement is not a fundamentalist-Christian sect. It may be loosely based on Christianity, just as Christianity and Islam are loosely based on Judaism, but it is a separate religion

You are right of course. I should have included the modifier "self-described" in front of Fundamentalist Christian when referring to the Christian Identity movement.

Mainstream Christianity condemns and rejects groups like the Christian Identity movement in a way that mainstream Islam has never condemned or rejected similar "Muslim" groups like Al-Queda, Hamas, Hezbollah, etc.

 

[Cool Hand Luke 22:36]

I think some of those who hate this are doing it upon an irrational Rush Limbaugh/Bill O'Reilley induced doctrinal hatred on NPR and the other mythical "liiiberal" media.

No. That's just incorrect.

If you had bothered to read this entire thread you'd see my objections to the poll were based on the use of the thoroughly discredited Bellesieles work, from the poll:

He explained that, according to historian Michael Bellesiles, until 1850, only about 10 percent of Americans owned guns...

Again, this is an outright lie by Bellesiles. This has been proven now for a good number of years.

Please explain what it is you consider so rational about your support for this PBS Station's repeating this lie.

No Liberal bias in the news media? Somewhere around 90+% are self-identified Liberal Democrats and you're saying there's no Liberal bias.

Right .

 

[Brett Bellmore]

No Liberal bias in the news media? Somewhere around 90+% are self-identified Liberal Democrats and you're saying there's no Liberal bias.

Actually, last time I looked, most of them self-identify as "moderates" or "independents" It's just that they think Ralf Nadr is a "moderate", and that Kerry is a conservative.

 

[carpettbaggerr]

Public Radio tries to "cook" a poll

As opposed to that CNN poll so many here wanted to 'nuke'?