Kahr CW9??

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Must have been a lemon then. Im telling ya, that Kahr trigger sucked!
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I would have sent that gun back under warranty to have the trigger cleaned up. The worst Kahe trigger I've ever felt...out of about 10...was magnitudes of smoothness better than a S&W J-frame and most rivaled a K-frame.

When my CW9 was new, I could feel a slight hitch and a little stack in the trigger travel...but I'm used to glass smooth actions...so I had them clean it up when I had the slide stop beveled. It is now much better than any non-competition K-frame
 
I have only had my CW9 for about a month, 600 flawless rounds, not a stutter. I then bought a CW45. Three hiccups in the first 50 rounds 1 FTF and 2 FTE. I have not had a problem in the 200 rounds since. The triggers are smooth as butter by the way and getting better with each range session.
 
I only have a PM-40 in the Kahr line. When I bought it, it was to be a dedicated carry gun. I still use it for that. I found the .40S&W to be a very snappy round in that small of a gun. So I had it mag-na-ported, and that tamed the little beast to an acceptable level. The one issue that was to find an acceptable high performance self-defense round. The feed ramp is offset to the side in the PM-40 and most self-defense hollow points would jam during feeding. Finally, I settled on Powerball rounds as they feed reliably. That is an issue you may or may not encounter with the 9mm.

Good luck, I've found the Kahr to be a wonderful carry pistol.
 
The feed ramp is offset to the side in the PM-40 and most self-defense hollow points would jam during feeding. Finally, I settled on Powerball rounds as they feed reliably. That is an issue you may or may not encounter with the 9mm.
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My pm9 eats everything, including my main sd load; speer gold dot 124 grain jhps. That feed ramp is odd though. When I first looked at it I thought: "How is that supposed to work?"
 
The feed ramp is offset to the side in the PM-40 and most self-defense hollow points would jam during feeding. Finally, I settled on Powerball rounds as they feed reliably. That is an issue you may or may not encounter with the 9mm.
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Kahr's feed ramps are offset and also very steep, combine that with the large meplat found on most 40s&w ammo and I can see where there may be problems. I don't have any problems with feeding 9mm.
 
I also own am XD9sc and added a CW9 Kahr to the vault. I love the xd trigger; after 1500 rounds it is smooth, fast, predictable and a relatively short reset. The CW9 trigger is longer and heavier. The CW9 is much thinner and lighter. It is more comfortable to carry and gets the nod most of the time in an IWB holster. The XD has been moved top a OWB holster with a thumb break. I still carry both, but the Kahr generally gets the nod due to its lighter weight and thinner profile. My Kahr required a very slight adjustment to its magazines as they developed a habit of popping loose at the shot; a trip to the smith and a couple of quick strokes with a file to the mag catch and all has been perfect for the past couple of years. Good luck with your new pistol.
 
The feed ramp is offset to allow the trigger bar to be placed right along side the feed ramp, keeping the height and axis as low as possible.
 
The feed ramp is offset to allow the trigger bar to be placed right along side the feed ramp, keeping the height and axis as low as possible.
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They are unique little jewels.
 
Ben86 said:
I wish I would have got the cw9 instead of the taurus 709, but I didn't know it existed.

I do have a pm9, which I really like. During the break in period it was very tight, like most Kahrs from what I hear, and gave me a handful of failures for the first 50 rounds. After that it has been smooth sailing.

Kahrs have my favorite trigger design. I love a wide, smooth metal trigger. If only I could combine the actual trigger of the Kahr with the trigger pull of the taurus 709 that would really be something.
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Funny you should say that Ben. When I got my CW9, I actually went into my LGS to buy a 709 Slim. In the case right below the Taurus was a CW9. I had only heard of Kahr from a few forum post, but took a chance and bought it. I have since bought two more Kahrs and all have been 100%. My PM45 is my EDC in hot weather.

Early this year I bought another Taurus, and it was a disaster from the get-go. I guess the day I bought the CW was a lucky day.
 
If you reload cast bullets, buy the Cw-9. It has a traditionally rifled barrel.

The P9 and K9 have a polygonal barrel like a Glock.

I have CWs in 9 and .45. Both outstanding.
 
I just bought a used 100rd fired CW9 for $350 did I paid too much?
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Nope, good deal.

Early this year I bought another Taurus, and it was a disaster from the get-go. I guess the day I bought the CW was a lucky day.
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Sorry to hear that, it seems likes it's hit or miss with taurus. My 709 has been great. I'd like to get one of their 738 .380s, but a cz75 is higher up on the list. I am glad to hear that you made the decision I should have made (getting the cw9 instead of the 709).
 
I've owned a PM9, a PM40, two P9's, a P40, and a CW9 over the years. I LOVED them all, but the CW9 is the only one that I still have for a variety of reasons (and I essentially carry it every day).

Every single one was 100% reliable for me out of the box.

The only issue I ever had was with a couple of the 9mm magazines. The front bottom part of the plastic follower broke off on two of them. I called Kahr, and they sent me new mags both times (no questions asked other than where to send them).

I see very little difference between the P line and the CW line (other than what I'd consider cosmetic differences) which is part of the reason I still own the CW and not the P Kahrs (much more cost effective).

Edit: One other thing that I have done with mine is put on a Hogue Handall Jr. grip sleeve. The "checkering" on the front and back of the grip was a little too aggressive for my wife, and she didn't like to shoot the Kahrs as a result. Now, she loves shooting them, and I've noticed it makes it a great deal more "comfortable" to shoot as well.
 
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thank you so much for the information everyone. If you had to choose between a new CW9 and a used but in great condition PM9 which direction would you go? Both are right around the same price, but the PM9 is smaller.

thoughts?
joe
 
Hi Boosted,

Smaller is better for concealment of course but I think I'd handle both and see which one feels good to you. The CW9 is small enough for any reasonable carry need. The question is...how well can you shoot the smaller gun? If you think you can shoot the smaller as confidently as the larger, I'd go with the smaller gun. Otherwise, go with the larger but still very concealable larger pistol.

Paul
 
With the CW9 I can still get all my fingers on the grip which I really like. I carry IWB so the extra height doesn't bother me, the CW9 is plenty small for that type carry mode. A related positive to a longer grip is an extra round in the magazine. The PM9 may be just small enough for pocket carry, if that is a consideration the PM9 may get the nod. The PM9 should also come with a second magazine. The rest of the differences are either cosmetic or inconsequential IMO.

How do you plan to carry the pistol and how do they both fit your hand?
 
both fit my hand very well but the CW9 fits better right off the bat. The reason for maybe going to the PM9 is because this is the gun I will carry wearing T-shirts and shorts. I currently carry the XD9SC but its a bit big for tshirt weather and when i have to tuck a shirt in. The CW and the PM are both .9 of an inch and the XD is over a half in wider...hence the idea for picking one up

joe
 
Since you have a line on a PM9 for a good price I'd be inclined to go with that because it would be intended specifically for warm weather and tucked in shirts. I carry my CW9 under a t-shirt very regularly and don't have any problems with it but a PM9 would be just a little easier and would give you the option for pocket carry, depending on your pockets. I don't think you could go wrong.
 
My concern for the PM is its used. Yes I know a used gun is still a good gun, but I would rather have new and if there are issues go to the manuf. I have a hard time believing someone would get rid of a gun that is flawless unless they absolutely have too. hence why I would rather buy new over used...make sense?

joe
 
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