Kahr PM9 vs. Walther PPS

[cbrgator]

Which is better for CCW? Pros/Cons?

 

[Quiet]

The Kahr Arms PM9 is smaller and lighter than the Walther PPS.

 

[bigfatdave]

The real answer is whichever fits your hand better.
Neither is particularly heavy. Both are quite slim. Neither has exceptional capacity for the size.

I personally pack a PPS in 9mm, A Kahr almost got into the safe while we were shopping for MrsBFD's CC pistol, but a Springfield XD beat it on price/capacity/grip-safety, plus it fit her hand better than anything else, including my PPS.

 

[rhinoh]

I voted PPS simply because I own two, the 9 and the 40. Don't have, and have never even held a Kahr to compare, but it seems I read of lots more problems with them. My son just bought a Glock 26....comparing it to the PPS I was very impressed, if you can deal with the thickness of it..costs less too.

 

[searcher451]

I've fired both. I own two Walther PPS models, one in 9mm and one in 40 S&W. I don't own a Kahr. It's not that I have anything against the Kahr, mind you. But the Walther was a much better fit for my hand and eye.

 

[bigfatdave]

Don't have, and have never even held a Kahr to compare, but it seems I read of lots more problems with them.

Probably because Kahr has more of their products in the marketplace for a longer time. I don't think that Kahr has a higher percentage of lemons leaving the factory than any other major manufacturer.

 

[c919]

Both are great carry guns.
Both are reliable.
Both are made by great companies.

But like my many others here, I think the PPS 9mm is a better choice.

 

[halfacop]

I love my PM9........

With that said I have not shot the PPS. I know a buddy that has one and really loves it. However - I have been carrying my PM9 on duty and off for 5 years now. I have ZERO complaints.

But like my many others here, I think the PPS 9mm is a better choice.

Why exactly are you saying its the better choice?

 

[paulgl26]

i had a pps and traded (working just fine just did not work out for me)
i voted pm9 because i have a pm40 and love it (same size as a pm9)

 

[joesolo]

Walther PPS. Mine shoots and handles flawlessly.

 

[dogtown tom]

Walther PPS

Overall Length: 6.3"
Overall Height: 4.4"
Width: 1.04"
Wgt w/o mag: 19.4 ounces

Kahr PM9
Overall Length: 5.3"
Overall Height: 4.0"
Width: 0.90"
Wgt w/o mag: 14.8 ounces

Kahr PM9 for the win.

 

[The Lone Haranguer]

I have a PM9. Its shorter dimensions (front to back and top to bottom) make it superior for pocket carry IMO, simply because it takes up less of the pocket. Unquestionably the Walther - as well as the new Taurus PT709 Slim - is thinner, but I am unsure how big an advantage this really is.

 

[cbrgator]

Thanks guys.

 

[dogtown tom]

The Lone Haranguer: ...Unquestionably the Walther - as well as the new Taurus PT709 Slim - is thinner...

Unquestionably????

Walther PPS

Overall Length: 6.3"
Overall Height: 4.4"
Width: 1.04"
Wgt w/o mag: 19.4 ounces

Kahr PM9
Overall Length: 5.3"
Overall Height: 4.0"
Width: 0.90"
Wgt w/o mag: 14.8 ounces

 

[philbo]

I've owned and carried the PM9. and the PPS in both 9 & 40. I found the PM9 had the advantage for pocket carry as the overall length of the PPS was just a little too long. Both pistols were equally reliable, but I just found myself carrying the Kahr more often.

 

[RockyMtnTactical]

I cant trust the Kahr, and even though I have never tried the Walther, I have tried enough examples of the PM9 to confidently say that the Walther must be more reliable.

 

[Alan Fud]

PM9.

 

[JellyJar]

Did not like my PM9

I owned a PM9 and did not like it. The frame flexed so much that with the 7 round mag in the gun if I put my finger on the finger extension of that mag the gun would jam.

Their polymer frame just did not seen very good to me.

I have neither shot or handled a PPS so I can't say how good or bad it might be. However, after they first came out I heard that they had problems. Don't know about now.

Take care y'all

 

[c919]

Both are great carry guns.
Both are reliable.
Both are made by great companies.

But like my many others here, I think the PPS 9mm is a better choice.

Why exactly are you saying its the better choice?

Why? Because I like the PPS more, plain and simple. Key words: "I think"

I explicitly expressed that they are pretty darn equal. I personally prefer the PPS due to its features, accuracy, and its overall feel. That being said, I would love to own a PM9 also.

I'm going to simply state a saying that you hear all the time around here: It's all about personal preference.

So since you

 

[Seven For Sure]

The P9 is closer in size.

 

[doublebarrel]

I read somewhere that, the 1.04" width of PPS is the maximum width, including the slider release and takedown buttons. Without, the width is .91"...

Unquestionably????

Walther PPS

Overall Length: 6.3"
Overall Height: 4.4"
Width: 1.04"
Wgt w/o mag: 19.4 ounces

Kahr PM9
Overall Length: 5.3"
Overall Height: 4.0"
Width: 0.90"
Wgt w/o mag: 14.8 ounces

 

[jocko]

ain't buying that stuff "jelly jar". surely u could come up with a more realistic reason. flex, ***???

 

[Gun Geezer]

ain't buying that stuff "jelly jar". surely u could come up with a more realistic reason. flex, ***???

Guys, using "***" is not very high road.

Let's keep it clean. OK? Please?

 

[GunNut]

I loved the size of my PM9, but chose to stick with the S&W 340PD for CCW. I just didn't trust the Kahr.

If choosing between the PM9 and PPS though, I would take the PM9. It is much smaller and easier to conceal.

 

[WRGADog]

I own a PM9 and PPS 9mm

I like to carry in my front pocket so for me the Kahr wins by a substantial margin. Much lighter and smaller than my PPS. I carry the Kahr daily in a DeSantis Nemisis pocket holster. They are both great guns but the Walther is definitely a belt gun IMO.