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Korwin Love Bombs The Antis

Discussion in 'General Gun Discussions' started by AZRickD, Apr 15, 2008.

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  1. AZRickD

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    http://www.gunlaws.com/DuquesneSpeech.htm

    For some reason, Alan Korwin of gunlaws.com was invited to be the token gunnie in a room full of anti-rights sycophants.

    One might imagine oneself in that situation, trading barbs and devolving into a screaming match. After all, he was in a roomful of antis who came to rejoice with anti-rights Supermen (Tom Mauser, Jim Brady, and statistician David Hemenway of Harvard who, for some reason, doesn't do demographics because he apparently doesn't want to find out much about who he says is doin' the killin'.)

    He followed featured speaker Tom Mauser whose son was killed many years ago and has become a staple of these gatherings (Some years ago, I exchanged some pleasant -- on my end -- e-mails with Mr. Mauser. He didn't like me much)...

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    While addressing the National Symposium on Handgun Violence at Duquesne University, Tom Mauser displays the shoes of his son, Daniel, who was killed at Columbine High School. Mr. Hauser wears the shoes on special occasions.

    Some Korwin snippets (about his tactics, not necessarily the most potent phrases):

    Lots more.

    Rick
     
  2. John G

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    Excellent. This is a seminar on how to present a pro-gun, pro-self defense philosophy.
     
  3. AZRickD

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    It takes lots of practice. I can do it in short bursts. I've seen Alan do it in long-form.
     
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    He illustrates the need, so well

    I often get frustrated and jump to rights, idiots and sheep. This usually starts a brawl and I escape out the window:cuss:
     
  5. misterwhipple

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    Thank you, AZRickD. That was good for me to read.
     
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    Great Post! Man...just in those highlights the man hit so many bulls-eyes it was uncanny.
     
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    Thanks for posting.
     
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    I think it's unbelievably corrupt--in all ways--for someone who is unwilling to defend his life to pay someone else to risk his own life for that person.

    I have an even lower opinion of people who won't defend the lives of their very own families but prefer to wait for someone else to do it for them.
     
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    +1!
    When you have the truth on your side, they ARE outnumbered!
    Poper
     
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    I like that first story about the lady fighting off a knife wielding attacker.

    1. It is a personal and individual story that is both emotional and hard to refute w/o looking like the bad guy; similar to stories anti-gunners use. Forcing people to put themselves in that vulnerable position is effective. It puts the emphasis on the phrase the "when seconds count, the police are minutes away."

    2. There really isn't a good argument for alternative forms of defense since she is a woman and presumably not going wrestle the guy to the floor and the fact that he was already in a position to hurt her so locking herself away wasn't an option.

    I have found it is very difficult to get anti's to really think about those scenarios. The one time I can remember doing so, the answer back was "well, the odds of that happening are really small. How often does that happen?" My only answer was 'often enough that I want to be prepared for my sake and my family'.
     
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    Reading that made my chest swell with pride...nothing greater that the truth in dealing with the gun control crowd. Logic has a warmth all its own.

    We need more of this kind of rhetoric, before we, as a culture, are consumed by the lack of logic that emotional reasoning can created.
     
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    Well done, Mr. Korwin!

    Gosh, I feel like I do okay against anti-rights folk, but that's just amazing. I'm going to spread this far and wide.
     
  13. Cmdr. Gravez0r

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    PURE GOLD

    Saved for reference
     
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    I can't agree that it is necessarily currupt to pay someone else to defend you - if you can afford it. Why is it any different than paying a professional to do anything for you?

    I mean, let's face it...the woman in the story who fought off a knife-wielding assailant would probably have been better off with an armed guard. But of course that isn't practical or affordable for most of us.

    It is certainly currupt for people who CAN afford an armed guard - or those who have them provided at tax-payor expense - to advocate the rest of live unarmed and unprotected.
     
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    AZRickD

    Thanks for the insights; made for great reading.
     
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    (never mind)
     
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    In most cases, we hire someone to do something that a) we can't do for ourselves, like surgery, or b) isn't convenient to us, like changing the oil. Such things are simply the mutual service of ordinary commerce. They are neither cowardly, nor do they involve judging my own life as more valuable than someone else's (at least, not necessarily). That would be corrupt.

    So, hiring someone to risk his life with me is legitimate. Reducing the value of his life to mere money so I can risk his life instead of mine would not be.
     
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    Not uncanny at all... :evil:

    It was not by chance. I've seen Alan evolve his arguments over the last 15 years or so. He practices it in the heat of action with cameras rolling, over e-mail lists, and in special "dinners" with fellow gunnie activists. Ideas are bounced around. Alan incorporates. This was something of a culmination, I think.

    When I would call into talk radio shows I would make two or three bullet points on a pad of paper -- and stick to the message. All this after spending several months deep in books trying to figure out the arguments.

    Practice makes perfect. Alan is in a different sphere, but all of us can do a fraction of what he does. All for the better.

    Rick
     
  19. AZRickD

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    Alan asked me to post this (I thought he was already a member)...

     
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    There are many who - for whatever reasons - are not able or competent to defend themselves. This doesn't make them currupt. And let's face it...for ever buyer is a seller. Is that currupt?
     
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    It's not corrupt to hire a bodyguard. It IS corrupt to say that no normal person should own a firearm... but want and accept protection by the gun. It would be like a pacifist hiring thugs to beat up people who tick him off, it just doesn't jive.

    Our opponents can see the utility of firearms and their used. As Mister Korwin points out, at some level they understand why firearms exist. Most people lack the ability to really run their own ideas through the wringer. This exposes the contradiction in their beliefs. They claim to hate firearms but wouldn't want their police armed with mean words. They want the benefits of firearms but they don't want (most) people to have them.
     
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    Think Rosie O'Donnell and dozens of other celebs, Captains of Industry and political elites.

    Remember, Alan used a gentle form of verbal jujitsu that allowed the antis to confront themselves. Did they really hate guns? They sure felt comforted by the hired guns around the room, didn't they?

    While I used to dislike the use of case studies in my own work (epidemiology), I found that their ethical use can be used to drive home a point. Alan's case study concerned Arizona's own Mary Ann Watkins who ended up at that Yuma rest stop face to face with a cowboy-trucker with a coil of rope in his hand. Alan relayed the sanitized version of that story. Here is the original 1994 version...

    http://www.lizmichael.com/bitches.htm

    In case that URL was sanitized by the auto-censors, try this...

    http://www.gunowners.org/wv20.htm

    After relating the Readers Digest version of that all-to-real story, the anti-rights people have to come to terms with their sacred beliefs versus the successful rebuke of sexual assault.

    BTW, there are still doubters out there. Alan sent me this from a doubter who saw his speech...

    This is Cliff: [​IMG]

    Ya gotta go to that link to read what the antis have to say.
     
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    Here is Korwin's response in that blog. It really looks like the blogger is trying to use Korwin's notoriety to increase his hits...

    Here's Alan's pic, since Mr. Mauser's was linked above...

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    Thank you for posting this Rick. It is an inspiration to rights advocates and those who attempt to defend their rights everyday.

    I would be very curious to know how that forum turned out. Did they applaud him? How did they respond?
     
  25. AZRickD

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    They didn't laugh at a couple of his light jokes (we barely laugh at them either). :p

    But at the end of his write-up (available at the link above), he writes...

     
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